Friday, 20 January 2012
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Christians: Get Serious
My parents split up in 2006 due to an affair. Parent A didn't feel loved by Parent B, and so sought love in the counsel of another. But Parent A was pretty lazy about it and didn't fight for the marriage. Parent A just let the love die and then ran off with somebody else.After the split, Parent A and I had family counseling sessions for a while, and I remember explaining that I agreed Parent B did not adequately fulfill a loving role in the marriage, due to being generally naive and oblivious to others' needs. But I said that Parent A was still lazy and making excuses.
If it was my marriage and I felt unloved, I wouldn't just let the marriage go on sucking for fifteen more years and then have an affair. I'd raze hell. I'd throw dishes, make a scene, quit my job, move to Timbuktu, and do whatever it took to get my wife's attention and work together to save our marriage. No excuses.
I am sitting here now and thinking how many Christians make excuses for a pathetic relationship with God. I am not just talking about Xangans, but all Christians.
Even though I grew up in the church and I've known people in person who were Christian in name only, it seems people are more honest about their thoughts and feelings and spiritual state online where there is a certain about of anonymity. People chat, send private messages, e-mails, posts on Facebook, their blogs, and other places that reveal their true condition. While this is good -- I'm glad people have some place to be honest -- it's very sad to see how many Christians really don't know God.
In my mind, if I had a pathetic relationship with God, if I was still struggling with the same old crap that had been on me since I was a child, if I knew there was something seriously broken inside me, in my soul, I wouldn't just keep going to church as usual and nothing else and hope it got better. I'd raze hell. I'd move out, I'd quit my job, I'd make a scene, I'd call someone at two o'clock in the morning, I'd go out to a field and scream and cry and throw stuff until I got from God what I needed. That's how serious my relationship with God is. Nothing else matters and I have no excuse for a bad relationship with my Lord.
If you believe, if you really believe in God, the God of the Bible, the God who always was, who is, and who will always be -- if you really believe, then raze hell. But I see so many Christians, and I read their blogs and get messages from them and see their updates on Facebook (back when I had FB), and they complain about their lives, they whine about somebody who hurt their feelings or complain about their friends or mope around in depression or get angry at God because they have SSA or ADD, or they cry about not having money or a nicer car or this or that. Having a problem is one thing, but letting the problem control you and destroy your relationship with God is a much, much bigger problem.
I hear this a lot: "I know God is good and faithful, but I just wish his church would show me a little love. I need friends to know God's love, and when they don't call me back or return my messages, I just don't feel the love of God in them and so I get lonely, and then I get depressed, and then I see them at church the next Sunday at they act like everything is cool."
Do not tell me you are a Christian if you rely on your friends to fulfill and heal you. You are a Friend-ian. You do not know God, His love, or His sufficiency.
Do not tell me you have a relationship with God if you are content to muddle around in depression, pride, lust, SSA or any other consuming issue and think it's okay, or that it's normal and fine for a Christian. And if you take just a little pleasure in having these struggles because it brings you a sense of justification of your need for love, attention, and pity from others, then God does not know you because you have kept yourself from Him and whored your heart out to any person who would show you a little affection.
Israel wandered around in the desert for forty years because they did not trust God and they complained. In their pride they felt justified because they were God's chosen people, but their hearts were far from Him. Christians wander around in depression and addiction year after year after year and complain and complain and in their pride think they are justified because they're Christians and they go to church. But their hearts are far from God. If I were in that state, I'd do a serious heart check and not go on about a single day more until my relationship with God was restored and I knew my heart was held securely in His hands.
Don't play these stupid, selfish games with God. Get serious. You're time is short. If you really believe, then raze hell to see something change.
These particular issues mentioned may not apply to you personally, but do you feel the need to "get serious" with God? Do you see this need in the Christians around you or in general?
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I don't think anybody out there, Christian or non-Christian is in any position to call out other Christians for their apparent lack of faith because a person's faith is their own business. It sounds like yours is strong, but don't condemn others for not being as strong. Glass houses afterall....
@Shadowrunner81@xanga - I don't mean to be contentious, but it is very much a part of the fabric of Christianity to "call out Christians for their apparent lack of faith." It certainly should not be done out of spite, or out of a sense of self-righteousness, but part of what makes Christianity Christianity is the pursuit of holiness and Godliness. There is no indication in the New Testament that faith is a personal or private matter, because the ultimate good in faith is not security or self-satisfaction with religion but intimacy and reunion with God. To that end, exhortations and calls for Christians to renew that passion and love are both necessary and justified.
I disagree with the original poster in that his description of "Christians wander around in depression and addiction year after year after year and complain and complain and in their pride think they are justified because they're Christians and they go to church." is a gross oversimplification of people who are very deeply hurt and whose souls are twisted and struggling; they are often seeking God as well. But I think his main point is that people blame God for their feelings of spiritual failure and distance, when everything in Scripture encourages us to draw near to Him, and that He will draw near to us. I think the author accurately attributes feelings of spiritual weakness in our culture to a self-serving mentality, in which we confuse the promise of grace with the assurance that faith requires little effort.
Consider the following from the book of Hebrews (11-12):
And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David, Samuel and the prophets, 33 who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, 34 quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies. 35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection. 36 Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison. 37 They were stoned]"="">[f]; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— 38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground.
39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. 40 God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.
Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us. 2 Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3 Consider him who endured such opposition from sinful men, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.4 In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood. 5 And you have forgotten that word of encouragement that addresses you as sons:
“My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline,
and do not lose heart when he rebukes you,
6 because the Lord disciplines those he loves,
and he punishes everyone he accepts as a son.”]"="">[a]
7 Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father? 8 If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons. 9 Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of our spirits and live! 10 Our fathers disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, that we may share in his holiness. 11 No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.
12 Therefore, strengthen your feeble arms and weak knees. 13 “Make level paths for your feet,”]"="">[b] so that the lame may not be disabled, but rather healed.
@WasaiWarrior@xanga - I don't mean to be contentious, but it is very much a part of the fabric of Christianity to "call out Christians for their apparent lack of faith." It certainly should not be done out of spite, or out of a sense of self-righteousness, but part of what makes Christianity Christianity is the pursuit of holiness and Godliness. There is no indication in the New Testament that faith is a personal or private matter, because the ultimate good in faith is not security or self-satisfaction with religion but intimacy and reunion with God. To that end, exhortations and calls for Christians to renew that passion and love are both necessary and justified.
I sorta meant calling out other Christians in terms of them not being 'Christian enough' for someone's highly subjective liking. Now maybe a pastor/priest/minister can do that, or someone who is very highly trained in biblical theology, but not just average joe schmo on Xanga. "To that end, exhortations and calls for Christians to renew that passion and love are both necessary and justified." I can agree with this. Well put.
Besides strongly disagreeing with the apparent tendency to just throw temper-tantrums whenever you don't get what you want as a way to "fix" your marriage and your relationship with God (they will fix neither), I do adamantly AGREE with the desperate need for our brethren to get very serious about God.
I don't measure their seriousness against mine, but I do recognize that there is a standard in the Bible by which their seriousness will be measured, and that is the one to count.
I would call our brethren to humility, to repentance, and to fear the Lord through the gospel. If they would learn these things, they would then walk in Love and the LORD would draw them to Himself.
With the exception of your comment about depression, I pretty much agree with the op.
However, the op clearly does not understand depression. Yes there is a side of depression that can be simply 'gotten over' (like a mind over matter idea) but there is a very real dark side of depression caused by a chemical imbalance. The 2 are very different, and yes Christians are affected by depression every day.I read this, and I had just posted something that wasn't with God.
I want to thank you greatly. I struggle with Depression, but that doesn't mean I should give in to laying in bed and not doing what I can to make myself cheered up.
I struggle, but I have been making myself struggle alone, no longer. I am reaching for Him and letting Him take the reins for a bit.
Lol what the fuck. I think you people should watch this http://youtu.be/1IAhDGYlpqY
Thank you for the post! I want to share this with my friends. My favorite line of yours, a line that hit home, is "And if you take just a little pleasure in having these struggles because
it brings you a sense of justification of your need for love,
attention, and pity from others..." I used to do that. The past month, though, I've been getting a real passion, a real fire for God. It almost gets frustrating when not everyone else around you is the same!
Even the greatest in scriptures often wrote how they felt distant from Him on occasion. Thanks for posting this. :)
I was raised Christian but the past several years I've had a weak relationship with God. I went to church this past week and felt revived. I now realize a strong relationship with God is absolutely important. I was trying to figure everything out on my own but I need to trust Him with what He's doing in my life.
@Shadowrunner81@xanga - Galatians 6:1-2 speaks against that. If I am doing well, I want to come alongside my brother/sister who is not and encourage them. Not condemn or judge them, but encourage them and help them.
I enjoyed the post. I admire your pursuit of Christ, and sadly I know that many Christians either do not believe in God that strongly or do not show it. 1 Timothy 4:7-10
I pretty much agree; a lot of us aren't doing so hot right now. I include myself in that, but the reasons for that are between God and me. No excuses, but it seems that being a Christian is a constant struggle, a constant fight, a constant battle. You really don't get the chance to just relax and know that you're "okay", you know? You are constantly fighting your nature and the nature of the world you live in, constantly struggling not to drown in all of this around you. I think you only get in trouble when you do one (or both) of two things; when you stop struggling or when you stop asking God for help.
Depression and things like that are not so cut-and-dry, though. Sometimes it's very hard to be positive, joyful, and optimistic living in this world, with all the terrible nightmarish things that happen every single day. Sometimes you just feel like God is so far away, and it's so very easy to fall into despair. But even in the worst of it, God has been the hope I cling to. Sometimes hope is the only thing you have, and it has to be enough, at least for now.
I think that the person is saying that if we are in a mess we should seek God to help us instead of just excepting situations for what they are. A lot of people don't change because deep down they really don't want deliverance. I am assuming that SSA means same sex attraction. We do have authority over our bodies and we have the ability to ask the Lord to change our desires. A lot of people just try in their flesh to get free instead of submitting to Christ. When we cannot free ourselves then we make excuse for the sins or a sinful desires. That goes for addiction of any kind. It is first to take that thing to God and with God's help bring it under control. I have met people say they are in bondage and can't help it but when you ask them if they want pray they say no. In other words, I like my sin. Yes it was disturbing at first but since I gave into it, it is not so bad. I like it.
Alof to christian have sins in their lives that are detriment to their health spiritually and physically but they make excuses for still doing those things. Once in grace always in grace has messed up a lot people from getting delieverance. Nobody believe in real consecration or submission to Christ.
I needed to read
this. I was raised in a Christian home but felt ambivalent until two
years ago when some events and struggles basically made me boomerang
back to God. My life has never been the same, but periodically I
struggle again with the same things. I find that when I am not a free
person, going to church doesn't do sh*t for me and I'm so glad someone
else agrees because most people don't understand. They think me not
going to church is the cause of my struggling, when in reality, what I
really need is to pray, fall asleep on the beach, see God's
magnificence, breathe clean air, drink pure water, read material like
this, meditate, run to Christian music, etc, because because THAT is
what brings me closer to God. I don't know about other Christians, but
for me, I feel when I fall off course, it's due to a lack of love or
care for myself, and it has nothing to do with other people. I can blame
others, but being with or without self-love, which is largely
synonymous to being wit or without God because God is love, is an issue
so far removed from others, but completely central to my conscience. I
always feel the need to get serious with God.
Wow, heavy on the law I see. But that's good. People need the law and gospel. Lets not forget, though, to PRAISE GOD that he is a gracious God, that he does not save us according to how well we're holding up our end of the relationship, that he forgives us over and over again when we fall back into our sin! Yes, true faith can only be an active faith, a living faith that is bearing fruit but lets not focus so much on ourselves and what WE 'can' do to make our relationship right before the Lord but rather lets focus on God and what HE has done to make our relationship right with Him. When we focus on that then the rest will follow.
I think you need to get serious with God everyday.
It is without reading the comments above me that I comment on this blog, but I'd like to say thanks. I don't know if I necessarily agree with everything in your post. I don't necessarily think I destroy my relationship with the Lord when things don't go quite right, but during those times is when we should be strengthening our relationship with God, and I've never quite known how to do that. I spend lots of time in silent prayer, begging and crying to God for help. But God has a plan, and so that pleading doesn't quite seem to do much. I like the idea of being open with the Lord the way you have explained, doing drastic and grand-scaled things to create a healthy change in our lives. I've toyed with the idea of change far too long, and I think that I am beginning to be ready to actually make a step towards that change.
@LadyGwenivere@xanga - very well said. that was my complaint with what was written as well. some don't understand how hard it is to actually have a relationship in general not to mention God.