Thursday, 08 November 2012
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Don't Stop Praying
I’m writing this post in response to a post that I saw telling people that we need to stop praying and start doing. I understand that the purpose of the post was to encourage active service. However, and with all due respect to the author, this is perhaps the worst possible messages the Church could receive at a time like this.
For the shepherds have become dull-hearted, and have not sought the Lord; therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered.
Jeremiah 10:21 (NKJV)Among the brethren from around the world that I have preached to, I have noticed one strikingly frightening commonality: they do not pray, or they do not know how to pray.
The shepherds make plans and do not inquire of the Lord; sometimes when they inquire of the Lord they do not hear, as Saul in 1st Samuel 28:6 did, because of their wicked and dull hearts. So because they do not hear from the Lord, they go ahead with their plans in action, but they “do” without the Word of God or His blessing, and therefore they do not prosper in the Kingdom of God.
Again, I want to say that I understand the purpose of the previous post in saying that we need to “do” more -- and I sympathize with the sentiments as I remember that I, myself, relayed the same sentiments in college as I looked around and saw the rampant apathy surrounding me. But I want to reiterate that these sentiments are poorly expressed in the statement “stop praying and start doing”. It showed, at least in me, a wrong understanding of prayer. At that time, I had never known what it meant to “travail” in prayer or strive on behalf of someone in prayer. There is little more you can do that is more “active” than these!
Here is our exhortation from God:
... praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints
Ephesians 6:18 (NKJV)Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.
1st Thessalonians 5:16-18 (NKJV)Why is it so important to God that we pray?
Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. 13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
John 14:12-13 (NKJV)Our Father is so greatly glorified in His Son when His Son accomplishes for the children of God what they ask for in His name that He commanded His children everywhere to pray on all occassions!
There is so very little faith in the true power of prayer! And there is so little power in prayer because the hands of the children of God are unclean and their hearts are impure; their lips share both slander and praise, and their hands work both iniquity -- tax fraud, cheating, sexual impurity, violence, and slighting -- and “service” -- helping the poor, etc. This is not honoring to God nor does it bring glory to Him! In fact, the scripture says, "Now we know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does His will, He hears him." (Jn. 9:29; c.f. Psalm 66:18; Proverbs 15:8, 29, 28:9 (NKJV)).
Prayer is never a passive action. The very fact that it is commonly viewed as passive demonstrates the fact that prayer is greatly misunderstood and there is very little faith in those who pray!
I’ll give an example: why does God exhort us to pray that He would raise up laborers to send into the harvest? He said, “therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest” (Matthew 9:38 (NKJV)). This prayer is not a passive prayer! When the children of God have met together in earnestness to pray for this, God has translated those prayers into callings in the lives of those who prayed! This prayer only becomes passive when those who pray it do not have the faith to believe that God will raise them up as laborers in His harvest!
I have heard people say things like, “well, I’ve always felt called to________, so I prayed that God would send someone there.”
Where was the faith and obedience to the calling? The prayer was passive and so the pray-er was passive.
In addition to this, prayer is not passive because it always requires sacrifice. Offering up the incense (i.e. sacrifice) of prayer before God is not merely a beautiful poetic phrase that king David wrote, it is the reality of the effect prayer has on the life of the one praying.
When God raises up His servants for the work He sets before them, does He not also prepare them in holiness, righteousness, love, and zeal for the work that He has now set before them to do?
Another example: hurricane Sandy has hit. Are you praying for the suffering in that devastated area? If you are praying that God will provide for them, will God not also stir it in your heart to help them? But in your praying for those who are suffering, the glory of God is manifested in that His children unite together in this way to help!
There is no limit to the examples that could be given of how important it is that the children of God do not stop praying, but I will stop here with this last one.
Read the following from Luke 18 and notice Jesus’ last words on the subject:
Then He spoke a parable to them, that men always ought to pray and not lose heart, saying: “There was in a certain city a judge who did not fear God nor regard man. Now there was a widow in that city; and she came to him, saying, ‘Get justice for me from my adversary.’ And he would not for a while; but afterward he said within himself, ‘Though I do not fear God nor regard man, yet because this widow troubles me I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.’ ”Then the Lord said, “Hear what the unjust judge said. And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them? I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?”
Luke 18:1-6 (NKJV)But when Jesus returns, will he really find faith on the earth? Or will men be busy going about the plans that they have made of their own divining without having inquired of the Lord?
In your own life, do you find that there is too little prayer and not enough action, or too much action and not enough prayer? How important has prayer been in your life? When has prayer changed your life? When has taking action without prayer led you down an unfortunate path?
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This is a great post! It reminded me of how important prayer is, and sometimes I forget how important it is. When we pray and spend time with God, He is preparing our hearts and our minds for what lies ahead. He is filling us with his Spirit, His words, and His wisdom. Your comment that prayer should not be passive, but active, is great, and I've never thought about that before! Thanks for the insight! God bless!
Prayer is God's gift. He will answer us if we sincirely pray.
If wanting to help others, perhaps this prayer that I received this morning is just right:
"Dear Father God, I pray that You will use me as Your instrument to carry out
some important mission of mercy for You. I know, Father, that if You are going
to use me, You will begin to shape me into the best possible instrument I can be
for the specific role You have created. Thank You, Lord. Help me to be a good
listener and not a judge as you send needy people my way. Work on my heart so I
have Your lenses. Let me be Your mouthpiece, Your hands, and Your feet in this
missional opportunity You are providing. I present these requests in the name of
the one who is pure love and who always said yes to minister to others, Christ
Jesus; and all God’s children say – AMEN!"
@thomasmarkz@twitter - I fail to see how a phone call, a letter or a coffee is a miracle?
@eshunt - You ' received it? LOL!
You mean you made it up all by your little selfs duped imagination, it sounded good to you so you decided to believe it was what " a divinely sent message? " LOL!
In one breath you clowns try to claim your god(s) get things right ' first time, every time " and then admit you run off begging and pleading via prayers for it to do something different, change its mind, reverse something for your benefit or for some one elses and showing you are a doubter that doesn't trust your god after all!
Give us a List of your kinds of prayers?
Apart from your vivid imagination & brain-washing, what is your / your cults criteria for knowing a divine supernatural power answered your appeals?
Your mentor & literal Saviour moi!
eshunt, Why the anger towards other people who think differently than you? Is not life full of differing opinions? My opinions are frequently different from other Christians, in my politics, my scripture references, and my choices. I grew up in an LDS home, yet I refuse to stand on the road side with a placard of some sort spewing hatefulness towards that group. They don't get it. Hate doesn't draw anyone to Christ, or, change beliefs. Signs in front of abortion clinics. Doesn't make any woman feel like she should just run by leaps and bounds over to those chanting women and join them. It's just hate, and scripture, for believers, is pretty clear about such behavior, and yes, it's pretty political as well. So if you are trying to make us feel something, or change something, you aren't. If you have a personal experience to share, maybe someone would actually have a thought about your postings. And if it makes other people feel good to pray and meditate, yes, meditation is in the scriptures, what's it to you, aside from the radical groups that controlled two elections that caused an unnecessary war, and now has one million of it's own people displaced, and fighting each other.
I'm with you on most of your post. Some has come across to me that the mentality of your phrases and use of scripture was what got the pharisees in trouble. It almost sounds like if I'm a better sinner than God hears me more. If so, than how did my God hear my wretched heart in the first place. We pray because God told us to and what gets us there is the love for Him. We love Him because He first loved us. The lady with the alabaster jar was heard and was credited because she was aware of her sins and knew Jesus was her answer,all the while the pharisee couldn't stand it. She loved much because much was forgiven and that how we have to see ourselves before Jesus and that's why i pray. Jesus said in the end, "your faith has saved you, go in peace." God does not get glorified by making much about us rather than we make much out of Jesus.
Although I was born in a "Christian" family, they do not really believe in the Bible, they do not really follow everything there. I grew up being a Christian in name only. I rarely actually prayed until 4 years ago when I had a mystical experience, the Holy Spirit touched me. Yet, I was led astray, I turned to the occult to try to recreate the experience. I had always been on bad terms with my mom and I even consulted magicians to help with delivering me from my mom, of course, everything failed. However, I met a Prophet of God whose prayers really worked. He was such a righteous and kind-hearted man. I got the best job I could find, and quit the job at the right time, passed Trinity CertTESOL and eventually got admitted to my best choice of university for postgraduate, studying my favourite subject!!! He even taught me how to pray in faith and without making my prayers a sin to the Lord. I was told that I must base my prayers on the Word of God and I am so fundamentalistic that I believe everything in the Bible even to this day! Many miracles occurred and with his prayers, instead of delivering me from my mother, he soaked her in prayers and delivered her from demonic influence. She gets mad and yells at me for all sorts of irrational reasons. Despite calling herself Christian, she said many satanic, anti-biblical things; insulting Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. She even believes in palmistry and face-reading. She never respected me as a human being, my feelings never mattered to her. She even admitted once that she wasn't human! Scary O.O But after 7 days of soaking her in prayer, she mellowed down significantly. For some reason, recently, she has fallen into a relapse. This phenomenon was recorded in the Bible, so I can't stop praying:
Luke 11:24-26
New English Translation (NET)
Response to Jesus’ Work
24 “When an unclean spirit goes out of a person, it passes through waterless places looking for rest but not finding any. Then it says, ‘I will return to the home I left.’ 25 When it returns, it finds the house swept clean and put in order. 26 Then it goes and brings seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they go in and live there, so the last state of that person is worse than the first.”
@Cleyo - I should have mentioned something that you're touching on here; there is one prayer that God hears from the unrighteous sinner: that is a prayer of repentance and Godly sorrow. He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us of them. If we walk in our purity through faith in Jesus Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit, then we are unhindered in our prayers.
But what I cited from the scriptures regarding God's turning from the prayer of the unrighteous is very much true. I believe in the new-creation, by which we are no longer "wretched sinners", but free in Christ to righteousness and given power over sin.
My point concerning this is that many people think prayer is weak and powerless, and that is because their prayers are weak and powerless because they continue to walk in unrighteousness.
@Composer -
sure... the list is fairly short.
Our Father
The list needn't go on. Christians know that we are fallible.
Many of us pray such as this:
Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day, our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
Amen.
As you may note, we pray to God, to deliver us from evil. We want no longer to be deceived by guile.
Would you want us follow you instead? We will not.
@eshunt - Prayers are the actions of a disbelieving group or individuals that plead and test their god(s) abilities out to make them/it reverse or undo what they/it was supposed to have got right the first time and every time, but obviously didn't, and failed, and now its disbelieving community want it to do a better job next time. LOL!
IF your Story book god leads you e.g. towards evil, then you should be thankful that it has its reasons (whatever they may be? LOL!)
You are obviously lacking in faith or else you wouldn't care about being led towards evil but the fact you are shows your cowardice and lack of genuine faith!
How do you know which of the many god(s) out there (apparently?) are listening and how do you know which of them is actually heeding your plea?
Do you e,g, hear voices?
Do you have visions?
Do you claim a Supernatural power is at work assisting your appeals?
Other?
Actually Susan the Alien & her 12 sisters are responsible for Creation so you should be thanking them! (I could be wrong but so far the evidence otherwise remains a constant zero!)
Your mentor & literal Saviour moi!
@dustysojourner@xanga - IF you actually do believe in a literal holy-spirit Supernatural power or influence out there, then the James Randi Educational Forum wants to hear from you?
The Foundation is committed to providing reliable information about paranormal claims. It both supports and conducts original research into such claims.
At JREF, we offer a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event. The JREF does not involve itself in the testing procedure, other than helping to design the protocol and approving the conditions under which a test will take place. All tests are designed with the participation and approval of the applicant. In most cases, the applicant will be asked to perform a relatively simple preliminary test of the claim, which if successful, will be followed by the formal test. Preliminary tests are usually conducted by associates of the JREF at the site where the applicant lives. Upon success in the preliminary testing process, the "applicant" becomes a "claimant."
To date, no one has passed the preliminary tests.
To date, no one has passed the preliminary tests.
To date, no one has passed the preliminary tests.
To date, no one has passed the preliminary tests.
To date, no one has passed the preliminary tests.
(Composer's source: http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html)
Let us know when you grow a back-bone and put your current claims to their tests? LOL!
Meanwhile you remain as do your pre-decessors, liars, frauds and jebus rejects!
Your god(s), holy-spirit person, jebus and preferred Story book remain impotent against moi!
Your mentor & literal Saviour moi!
The next genuine Story book based xtian to legitimately manifest outside of Story book land the properties & attributes ' already a given ' to ANY genuine jebus' believer & as laid out in the bible Story book itself, will be the very first in man's entire history!
This is also easily testable should one of you current liars & frauds having arrogated the title xtian upon yourselves, that after growing a back-bone, to step up, name your preferred Story book version and I'll test you from there?
Your mentor & literal Saviour moi!
@Composer - some of us know a phrase: "There but by the Grace of God go I."
Generally, it is good to confirm our faith and also to renew unwavering commitment to God's word and His will. Other pursuits are eventually discovered to be false and vile.
Upon reading chiding remarks ... many of us smile and count our blessing.
@eshunt - 1. I note your willingness to be tested for legitimacy according to your own preferred Story book you declined LOL!
2. The legitimate evidence any ACCLAIMED ' HOLY-TEXT ' ARE THE WORDS OF any SUPERNATURAL GOD(S) GIVEN TO MEN REMAINS A CONSTANT ZERO!
3. The legitimate evidence ANY Supernatural god(s) literally exist also remains a constant zero!
4. Your faith is nothing more than a self induced psychosis & again your evidence otherwise a constant zero!
4. Mormons claim their faith is the the one, Hindus also, J.w's also, Jews & Moslems likewise so how does one measure the level of alleged Faith and what measurements are used and who devised those measurements e.g. feet, inches, pounds, kilos etc?
5. Fact is your faith is almost non -existent else you would be able to manifest the Story book promises already a given to ANY genuine jebus' believer!
Meanwhile you remain as always, liars, frauds, deceivers and all round jebus' rejects!
Your god(s) holy-spirit, jebus & preferred Story book remain unambiguously impotent against moi!
Your mentor & literal Saviour moi!
Much much much better luck at Sport, LOL!
Thanks ..
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