Most people don't desire to be violent. Most people do not plan on being violent. Most people dislike and try to avoid violence. In my experience, most people say "I'm not a violent person, but I'll use it as a last resort if I have to."
I used to say the same thing. I want to address the misconception that those of us who leave violence as a last resort don't value violence highly. I also want to explain why I think this philosophy is misleading to the people who hold it, making them victims of their own philosophies (usually taught to them by the communities that raised and currently nurture them). Perhaps a lot of this is a reflection of who I've been but from what I have encountered I believe this may be true of a great many other people as well.
Anytime we say we'll use violence "...if I have to" we make the assumption that we have a deep need for violence. This is ultimately untrue. Such a perspective holds within it a false view of reality. For we do not truly need violence or else we would cease to progress or exist without it. That is, if violence were eliminated, we would go along with it into all that which is not. Unlike oxygen, this is not the case.* When looking at the problem with greater honesty we must admit that such a statement is only made under the knowledge that violence already exists in this world and is often a great problem. Even scripture makes this fact clear (Genesis 6:11-13, Proverbs 16:29). Let us then continue under this premise.
Depending upon what we value, we may find violence to be a very helpful means towards keeping our values safe. For instance, if we care about not dying then there will be times when violence will be the most effective option for saving our skin, as it were. If we desire peace on earth, violence won't achieve that goal because peace requires far more than the absence of war or violence. So really, this issue comes down to the matter of values and not merely means. Our values and goals will help to determine our means.
If I value the gospel of Christ over my own life, then dying is not something I fear or feel the need to fight against with certain tactics, such as violence, because the gospel of Christ holds within it a mandate to love my neighbor and endure suffering just as Christ Jesus did. If, however, I value my own ability to breathe another day more than the gospel or more than anything that may call me away from the use of violence, then I am wise to employ violent tactics when they would be most helpful for they aid me in upholding my values and reaching my goals.**
The point being made is that the only way we have some type of "need" for violence is if we are so persuaded within our own minds that we have such a need. Even then, in reality, it is a desire for violence and not a need. It is a view and not a fact. Reality and our perspective say two different things about what we need. We are merely convinced. In our persuasion we identify our desire as our need. This is in no way uncommon to mankind. Violence is merely a tactic we reserve as a means of upholding our own values and achieving our own goals. It may be an effective tool, even the most effective, in such pursuits but that still does not make it a true need but rather a relative need, that is, not a need at all but a decision (or secondary value).
Up to this point we have looked at how we view violence in the realm of values and needs. We have kept the discussion predominantly in the realm of language. Therefor, let us move forward by looking at the affects of violence as being held in the category of "last resort."
Again, most people don't desire to employ violence to achieve their goals or uphold their values. At least, they don't think or claim that they desire this. I tend to believe them. As a result many people hold violence as a "last resort" without recognizing the problems that come with such a perspective.
To have an identified last resort may actually increases the odds that such a tactic will be employed than if it were unnamed. For naming the tactic, giving it a place (when other tactics simply float in the headspace), makes such a tactic unique and more thought about.
When one has a last resort strategy that they believe is an end-all or some sort of reliable trump card, the person becomes far more likely to become lazy in their development of other tactics. If I buy a handgun and keep it under my pillow, I will be less likely to learn about tactics which are aimed more at an assailants psychological state. It would be easier to go to my gun than to try and discover the motives of my assailant and then meet their needs (sacrificing my safety for their well-being). One strategy might keep me safe at best but another might begin a relationship that keeps me safe and heals the assailant at best.
A last resort tempts us to use it before it's time. This is the greatest danger a last resort tactic such as violence can have when it comes to conflict resolution (especially for the Christian who must embrace reconciliation and restoration of others above self preservation). When we panic or when fear finds us, the temptation to skip straight to our last resort (usually a tactic we don't desire to use most of the time because we put it low on our value scale for some reason) finds us as well.
If we do not work hard to develop creative strategies, that are not violent, to help us achieve our goals and uphold our values in times when those values and goals are threatened then we will more quickly rush to our last resort for we will not know what else to do. We have made our last resort a dependable foundation. Because we've reminded ourselves it is available to us for so long (and probably neglected to develop other strategies and thus made them unavailable to ourselves) we will find it the most attractive of options. In this situation, our last resort is no longer a last resort at all.
The reason that our last resort creates such a temptation is because a last resort is also a commitment. Though we often wish to view last resorts as unlikely possibilities they are actually more like unfortunate commitments. We don't desire to employ them but we're committed to doing so, that's why we've deemed them the "last resort", because we will use them if we deem it necessary. If the conditional arises, we've made a commitment to a specific strategy. This can be dangerous as I've shared before.
Violence is too easy. To have a gun under the pillow, to bring damage to our enemy, these things are too easy. We think bad people bring violence upon others and so we don't want to be violent, but we say we shall be violent against violent people because it makes sense to us, because we've told ourselves it will work, because it's working for the enemy, because everyone has told us to, and because it's been done for so long in our human history we can't conceive how a vulnerable strategy could bring a valuable result (If we know the gospel then this becomes more difficult for it was the weak God who conquered the strong death).
We have valued violence. We value our last resort more than the resorts we refuse to develop for we have named it and in so doing kept it as a constant reminder. We have made ourselves faithful to our last result by making it a commitment while we have often never named other tactics and only assumed their presence, never committing to them at all. We've assumed we'll know what to do in crisis but when crisis comes we soon learn we've not valued the development of tactics and skills that could help both us and the enemy and we run back to our faithfulness last resort, the only tactic we've ever truly valued with consistency.
I'm painting with a broad brush. Many people develop various crisis strategies but I'm willing to bet that more don't. I'm willing to bet that most of us who keep violence in our back pocket or under our pillow don't have many other tactics in our hands ready to be deployed. The reason? If we're honest? ...We don't need them. Our last resort has our faithfulness, our trust, our heart. Deep down, we want our violence. We don't want to let it go because once that backdoor is closed we are forced to be creative and actually work hard to develop other strategies, possibly risky and vulnerable strategies. It's easier to run out the door than jump out a window or hide under floorboards.

If we let go of violence we will have to begin thinking more about our enemy, thinking about ways to stop them and protect them (maybe not in that order). We will start seeing our enemy differently because we will have declared they are too valuable for us to bring violence against them. When we enter that space the struggle becomes greater because we now have more values to uphold, more goals to reach, and very few strategies already made ready for us because nobody has taught us the way of nonviolence. We've not yet been armed and this scares us. As we've learned from Kung Fu movies, the training will take a lot from us and this is scary.
Violence is easy. It's been around. We've been told we can trust it. It's been put upon us our entire lives. We've been told it's a need and not merely a desire. We see it in the hands of our enemies and we think that if we have the weapons they have then we'll have a fighting chance.
When we keep violence as a last resort we make it clear than we value violence far more than we ever admit. Whether we can see it or not (I never could), we desire violence to be in our hands because we trust it and we value it. If we did not respect it, trust it, and think it a blessing in times of crisis then we would not make it an option, not even a "last resort." We would then seek other ways. Even when we call it a necessary evil we claim we need it. We choose to need what we call an evil, a thing we despise others for. We value it, but only when it is within our own hands and for the sake of what we value.
I believe we keep violence as a last resort because another way has not been modeled for us enough. We have been taught to trust violence. Maybe we're scared of a life in which we can't access violence, maybe we're too lazy to develop other strategies, maybe we never gave it any thought, or maybe we're convinced the love of Christ looks like a handgun under a pillow.
I can't say what the case is for everyone. For me, I was trained in violence and trusted it, not knowing how much of my heart it had. Nonviolence and the way of Christ (who suffers for the sake of his enemies) scared me. That lifestyle threatened my values and unveiled my fears. It horrified me. It still horrifies me. Yet I've been taught by the God who saves his people, who delivers the enemies of his people into their hands, who becomes weak and still overcomes, that faith in his way is best and that he demonstrated a life void of violence and asked me to live as he did.
Proverbs 3:31-32: "Do not envy a man of violence and do not choose any of his ways, for the devious person is an abomination to the Lord, but the upright are in his confidence" [emphasis mine].
*This, is seen as a strange notion even more so when we think about the point of violence. Violence is employed to bring harm or a type of damage or destruction. If it does not totally destroy then it impairs, damages, or brings the object which receives the violence to a less productive and healthy state. How we could need such a damaging thing to progress makes little sense. While true, there are times when pain is a part of progress and unwanted procedures must be employed to bring about healing, such as surgeries, dental work, and the like, we must remember that there is a great difference between the shooting or stabbing of a man and the removing of one's appendix. We don't put our doctors in jail for minor surgery. We don't tend to call force that helps a person violence but rather force that does the opposite.
**Perhaps it seems unfair that I make the claim that the gospel calls us to a lifestyle of nonviolence. I can see that perspective. What I mean is that Jesus never employs violence against another person and we are called to model our lives after his, and in that simplification we have a call to a type of nonviolence.
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Anytime we say we'll use violence "...if I have to" we make the assumption that we have a deep need for violence.
That is a false statement. When people say they will use violence if they have to, they are assuming nothing.
What they are saying is that sometimes violence is necessary, which is a true statement.
To say otherwise is unreal.
Therefore what this post says is based on unreality.
Agreed! The "need for violence" is the central issue, in my view. I am no longer a total pacifist, as I once was, because I don't see it as unscriptural to defend one's family-- however, this insatiable need for violence and dependence upon it for total protection of self, property, liberty, and family does not demonstrate the faith and virtues of Christ.
I would like to point out that total pacifism, also, does not demonstrate the virtue of Christ. We're always given the commission to look after those who are weaker than ourselves, orphans, widows, women, children, the elderly, and infirm, etc. Yet we place ourselves in absolute subjection to all men, disregarding any mistreatment we may incur upon ourselves.
Where this dependence on violence comes into play is when we place mis-placed value on things (such as liberty and possessions) and seek to defend those with lethal force.
Just my thoughts, no penny needed.
Christians, should embrace the tradition of violence like I have as a first resort. Let's not forget who started the Inquisition, World War One and Two, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghan wars...
World War One was a coup against the Ottomans. The moslem empire was decimated during this war.
So as devout Christians, let's brandish our courage like swords and fell our enemies....YEAH!
The mandate for non-violence by Kingdom people is pretty clear in scripture. I think ultimately most Christians reject it because they don't trust the sovereignty of God. I heard Francis Chan say that we are all immortal unless God allows for us to die. We simply cannot die or be killed unless it passes through God's hands. I'm not sure we really truly believe that. Deep down, many think that they're the ones who ultimately determine whether their life will be spared, thus the resort to violence despite our commands to love our enemies.
@frostbitpanda@xanga - Let's not forget that every atheist regime in the world uses mass murder as a tool of domestic policy.
Modern atheist regimes have slaughtered more of their own people than any other group of people in history.
How is it that you blithely ignore that?
German, Italian and Japanese fascism was responsible for the slaughter of 64,000,000 people during World War II.
How is it that you blithely ignore that?
Christians abhor violence. But insane rampagers cannot be stopped any other way.
Here are some more thoughts on violence since the subject of "ChristianScripture" was introduced:
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)Kill Homosexuals"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
@PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga - where do you get the giant leap between Facism and Atheism??!! That is a straw man argument if I have ever seen one.
@Captric@xanga - You criticized Christians for being violent.
The fascists of the 1930s and the atheist regimes throughout the 20th century caused more mass murder and violence than any other group in human history.
And you said nothing about that.
Further, Muslims slaughtered 3000 people on 9/11 and routinely murder women who are victims of rape under the pretense of adultery.
Christianity is the most civilizing force in human history yet you are blind to the herd of violent elephants running through your living room.
@Captric@xanga - Why do you have to go back 3000 years to find fault with Christianity?
When you quote Proverbs 3:31-32 you are quoting from a man who commanded armies in the killing of his enemies. "Violence" in this context implies violence in the commission of evil... violence done out of hatred or greed or jealousy. Obviously it does not mean the violence of war. Nor does it imply the violence of self-defense.
A better argument for non-violence is based solely on the example of Jesus and his call to love our enemies. Even here, there is room for disagreement among believers. You may feel very strongly - philosophically - that you are 100% correct, but if your wife shoots the man who is attempting to rape her, will you condemn her and chastise her for her weak faith? Will you lecture her on how she should have explored other options in those few panicked seconds? Will you assure her that she would have been better off to NOT have a last resort gun under her pillow? There is a point where your non-violent idealistic philosophy meets evil reality and you'll have to live (or die) with the consequences. Philosophically you may feel ready to die (or to let your wife die). But in reality?
@PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga - Actually and as usual - you are wrong
Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself.
Hitler also wrote:"We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession. It combats the Jewish-materialist spirit within and without us, and is convinced that our nation can achieve permanent health from within only on the principle: the common interest before self-interest.
@Captric@xanga - Hitler was a demagogue who believed that lying and killing were legitimate tools of statecraft.
@PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga - Oh you know better than that unless you are living in a world devoid of the scientific miracle of harnessed electricity and cathode ray tubes.
Over 16000 BOYS were molested by over 6500 Catholic priests from the 1950's to now and that is only those discovered in the US! That is but a tip of the iceberg. Priests have also raped nuns but few come forward being a member of the only "facist" organization in the US or Europe - the Christian Church.
@PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga - He was a DEVOUT Christian and beleived that the Christian God was the ONLY God ---- JUST LIKE YOU! The point being that trying to assign him the title of an atheist is SOOOOO Christian in that that statement is malicious and provably false.
@Captric@xanga - Hitler believed in violence and racial superiority and war. His beliefs and practices were the exact opposite of Christianity.
I assigned him the adjective of fascist. The great mass murders of the atheists were something else altogether.
My claim is that the fascists and atheists were committed to violence and there was no other way to deal with them other than violence.
The fascists were dealt with by the cataclysm of world war. US President Ronald Reagan destroyed the communist superpower, the USSR by unleashing the CIA in a campaign of covert warfare.
@PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga - I guess you think you can know what hitler was thinking and what he was doing? I bet you think you can talk to god too.
In MANY Christians minds in the US and Europe Hitler was a GREAT Christian! EVERY Chrisitan I know is a racist. In the last ten years they have gleefully assigned the titel of Terrorist to ANYONE who practices the Muslim faith and has brown skin. Afterall --- all Christians know that Jesus was a caucasian looking fellow with a bird and God is a grandfatherly character of European descent!
Besides - you CANNOT change the subject to suit your pre fabricated and baseless opinions that Hitler was an ATHEIST! HE WAS NOT!! He was a Christian - brought up in the racist and murderous Catholic Church and even served as an alterboy. The Catholic Church even helped Hitler round up Jews for extermination.
More Hitler quotes in case you are STILL unconvinced -
Just as the Jew could once incite the mob of Jerusalem against Christ, so today he must succeed in inciting folk who have been duped into madness to attack those who, God's truth! seek to deal with this people in utter honesty and sincerity.
-Adolf Hitler, in Munich, 28 July 1922It matters not whether these weapons of ours are humane: if they gain us our freedom, they are justified before our conscience and before our God.-Adolf Hitler, in Munich, 01 Aug. 1923It will at any rate be my supreme task to see to it that in the newly awakened NSDAP, the adherents of both Confessions can live peacefully together side by side in order that they may take their stand in the common fight against the power which is the mortal foe of any true Christianity.-Adolf Hitler, in an article headed "A New Beginning," 26 Feb. 1925@Captric@xanga - A person is properly judged on their actions not on their words.
@PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga - That is an incerdible display of historical ignorance.
@Captric@xanga - You need to study real history instead of making it up to fit your hate. The truth is the antidote to hatred and bigotry.
@PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga - So you are totally wrong about Hitler being an atheist - you are totally wrong about all Muslims being terrorists - you believe in a Jewish Zombie - you talk to ghosts - and yet you advise ME to study history?? That's rich - and SO typically christian. You have no credibility in this argument - you have been proven wrong on every point - why is not your christian god intervening on your behalf? Are you not praying hard enough? Or is he/it/she just not listening or ore likely - non existent?
@PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga - My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited.
-Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922
@Captric@xanga - I didn't call Hitler an atheist. You are the one who brought up Adolf Hitler, in the first place. I mentioned the fascists of the 1930s which included the Germans, the Italians and the Japanese.
@PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga - Dude, I think you failed history. Hitler was Catholic and a devout one. What he did was to punish the jews for tossing Jesus out to dry on a cross at a hill in Golgotha. America, never forgave its enemies, propagated lies about communism and started the Vietnam war. In the history of the White House, all presidents were Christians. So you trying to white wash your own fucking history?
@Captric@xanga - This is so awesomely...Cool....! I love Hitler in the same way Jesus loved him.