Tuesday, 03 July 2012

  • Pornography and Our Insufficiency In Discussions

    By J.N. Hong

    In this post, I am mainly referencing this post by RELEVANT Magazine.

    I tweeted a few days ago (a few weeks ago now) that the natural conclusion from a post from RELEVANT Magazine on pornography was to never have sex again because it could cause us to become addicted to dopamines. The post is centered around the idea of the brain producing dopamines when we are stimulated by various activities. In this particular post, Internet pornography was targeted as producing dopamines, and through repetition, we slowly are wired into a routine in our mind. To break out of this routine is increasingly difficult, as the brain “learns” to act a certain way, causing compulsion and addiction.

    I have a lot of issues with the post. Largely because I have and still do struggle with pornography, I can see where it’s totally insufficient and plain unhelpful in fighting the sin.

    The main issue is that people will constantly fail if we try to fight it by ourselves. We can rid ourselves of pornography, but we’ll start lusting after other women, or we’ll find our dopamine addiction in other places–being jealous of other people, lying in our relationships, using the Lord’s name in vain. The bottom line is, the post doesn’t state that it is impossible to walk in this world without sin with an individualistic worldview, absent of the communion of believers and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit constantly. The answer is God, only and always God.

    1) It’s a secular worldview on a Christian magazine.

    This is perhaps my biggest problem. There is nothing in the post to differentiate it from a secular self-help magazine. Besides, the message of the article that is anti-pornography–the applications for breaking the bond of pornography are largely focused largely on human betterment, instead of God glorifying. That is, holiness attained is not for the glory of God and enjoying Him better. I’m not saying the human betterment, and glorying God are not correlated, but the first purpose of our lives is to glorify God, and to enjoy Him. The applications and profits of not being addicted to pornography are hopelessly unrelated, and against what the Gospel is preaching.

    I think the article would be acceptable as part of a secular publication–in fact, I would be slightly impressed because, honestly, apart from a Christian worldview, I wouldn’t see a problem really with pornography. The problem with pornography is it is a cultural thing. The article doesn’t separate the Christian from the secular, and it therefore dilutes both views. Defeating pornography essentially requires the Holy Spirit, and a disconnection from the World which tempts us.

    While there is an element of human responsibility in our lives still, sin changes form and we can chase wealth, image, status–all of these which takes us away from God. Charles Spurgeon talks of the sin of pride:

    “Sometimes it is an Arminian, and talks about the power of the creature; then it turns Calvinist, and boasts of its fancied security — forgetful of the Maker, who alone can keep our faith alive. Pride can profess any form of religion; it may be a Quaker, and wear no collar to its coat; it may be a Churchman, and worships God in splendid cathedrals; it may be a Dissenter, and go to the common meeting-house; it is one of the most catholic things in the world, it attends all kinds of chapels and churches; go where you will, you will see pride.”

    I feel if we do not preach the Gospel that forgives all sins, we are preaching much less than is sufficient to help people be healed. By not preaching for people to live apart from the world, I feel we are preaching much less than what the Gospel demands.

    2) The substitution of “addiction” with sin.

    Am I being nit-picky? There are connotations and stigmas associated with both words. Though, I would argue that psychologists who use the word “addiction” are meaning something different from when Mark Driscoll uses the word addiction–there are strengths and weaknesses of both words in relation to each situation. Therefore it’s kind of difficult, but I’ll attempt to explain the difference:

    Addiction is simply a weak or bad person making a bad choice. It’s a man-centric concept, which reduces decisions made to purely voluntary behavior. Jay Adams states that: ‘The idea of sickness as the cause of personal problems vitiates all notions of human responsibility’. This demonstrates how disconnected the concept is from God, and insufficient in acting as a synonym for sin.

    Sin is a God-centric concept, and has a direct relationship to our relationship with God. That is, sin is what brought us out of the Garden of Eden and sin is what makes us have to toil the ground and have pain in childbirth. Sin is why the world is messed up and apart from what God’s plan are. Sin is why I am so messed up and the Church is messed up.

    There is a solution to sin, and that is believing in Jesus Christ, and repenting of our sins. That is the key, I think. If we are continuing in a secular dialogue, there is no room for dialogue. The solution to addiction is what the article has stated–positive thinking ; but if it is not working in synergy with the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives convicting us of sins, it is useless and damning. To reduce pornography to merely an addiction is robbing us of the efficacy of the Gospel on our souls, and the greatness of forgiveness of sin.

    3) The bigger picture

    The article misses the grand plan that God has for sex. I feel that this too is often what is absent in discussions about other sexual issues like homosexuality and pre-martial sex. The post is so intent on saying: “PORN IS BAD”, “YOU ARE A BAD PERSON”, and “YOU NEED HELP”, but it misses the glory of sex. I feel as Christians, we are always guilty of just rubber stamping anything with sex on it with a R rating. Any movie with that mentions a bad word is immediately shut down, so much so that whatever glory there is in sex, that we put a bushel over because we are afraid of it. Yet, it is a very real and beautiful part of our lives–so beautiful that we fail horrifically in differentiate between the sex and pornography enough.

    Sex is a vastly different creature from pornography. Pornography is perhaps one of the most loneliest things on this earth, while relational sex is the most intimate. To reduce the reasons not to watch pornography to dopamines rewiring our minds is reducing all things to relativity. The reality is that sex generates dopamines, eating food generates dopamines, breathing air (I’m pretty sure) creates dopamines, and all of these should be avoided because it might wire our brains to continue living?

    On the topic of sex, dare I say it…I am excited? But so many Christians seem to be so closed up to it, and afraid to discuss it. But really, if we aren’t talking about it and engaging with the topic with honesty and openness, the only place we are going to learn about it is on television and on the internet. It’s the unwillingness to educate and define the boundaries, contrasted with the tendency to remedy and restrict–this makes Christianity seem full of rules. But to understand the great plans that God has for us, in our future spouses (or blissful singleness for those called), I don’t know why we would want to settle for anything less. I don’t know why we would continue to hide it.

    This post was mostly written for Prisca’s Voice (follow her!) and I always wanted a reason to exposit a lot about my views on how Christian treat the subject of sex (if rarely).

Comments (10)

  • Soul_Pizza@xanga

    You are dead wrong on so many levels.  Addictions can be cured through all sorts of helpful methods, by, you know...  professionals, scientists, people who spend their whole lives studying things like this...  God is a secondary step, but is most certainly not required.  If the person wants to believe in god and that god is helping, then whatever, that's their choice, but just the same, many people have gotten over many different addictions - many worse than porn, no less - without believing in god, and to deny that would be plain ignorance.

    Second, your inference that addiction actually somehow doesn't exist because god does exist is, well...  plain stupid.  Addiction is very real.  It's not some excuse that someone made up once to cover for the fact that they actually just make bad decisions and don't want to fess up to it, or whatever it is that you're actually trying to say here - I can't quite make it out because it's so mind-boggling...  Please tell me if I'm getting that wrong, because I really hope that I am.  Anyway, no, addiction is a very real phenomena that can be examined psychologically.  People addicted to things like cigarettes have trouble quitting for a reason.  Same with alcoholics, and especially people who suffer addictions to hard drugs..  To undermine their pain and struggle is a huge slap in the face.  Also, addiction is not just limited to substance, but can also be extended to activities, such as watching porn.  The fact of the matter is, however it happens, people get addicted to things, and some are even more susceptible to addiction than others.  It doesn't necessarily mean they are "bad" or "weak," it just means they got caught up in something addicting.  Did you know that a lot of people are addicted to caffeine, and most don't even realize it?  More things have addictive properties in life than you might think...  it's not just drugs and porn, it's a lot of different things.  But no...  addiction is a real thing, it's not just some man-made BS designed to wane personal responsibility...  lol.

    These are things that can be backed up by scientific research, and have been...  I'm tired of people acting like all the pertinent and useful information we've gathered over the better part of the last couple hundred years regarding things like medicine and human psychology is worthless because it's not in some archaic book that was written by people who thought that the cure for leprosy was to sprinkle bird blood on lepers.  It's this backwards thinking that causes innocent children to die because parents would rather pray for their sick kids than get them real help.  It's sickening.

    Please, drop this nonsense.  Science is your friend, it's humanity's friend.  We've spent hundreds of years studying it and applying it to our lives, to make our lives immensely better.  Don't dump on it like this...

  • wilfulsunflower@xanga

    I don't agree that the Relevant Magazine article presented a secular worldview. The article might not have mentioned God in every paragraph or quoted any scripture, but his first point, "intentional thinking", sounds close to what Paul said in Philippians 4:8 -- "Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things." Likewise, countless times in Psalms and Proverbs we're told to meditate on the word of God. It boils down to the same thing: be purposeful in what you focus your mind on.

    As for the writer's third point, I agree with him that if we're very bound up in sinful habits or addictions then we may need extra help to break those patterns of behaviour. Yes, we need to repent but just because we are cleansed doesn't mean we will immediately be free of old habits and ways of thinking, or else Paul wouldn't have written that we must put off the old and put on the new (Ephesians 4:22) or told the Colossians that they needed to put to death that which was of their earthly nature (Col 3:5).

    I think the Relevant Magazine article was useful in helping us to understand why the snare of porn can be so difficult to overcome. Just because it uses a scientific explanation doesn't make it secular. God made our bodies -- God is the Author of all science. And for every sin, I think it's a given that we do it because it feels good or we get some kind of "reward" from it (even if it's just a dopamine rush). That's why sin is so tempting.

    Why can't porn be both an addiction as well as a sin? I disagree with you that addiction is only "a weak or bad person making a bad choice". If that were true, smokers could simply choose to stop smoking, alcoholics could simply choose to stop drinking, and drug addicts could simply choose to stop taking drugs. Anyone who has struggled with any of these things knows that it's not that easy, and the fact that it's not so easy to break addiction means more comes into play than simply making a choice. Yes, there's a need for the person to choose to stop -- and to keep on choosing -- and this is probably one of the most important steps of all, but I think there's more to it than that. Sometimes, God in His mercy and grace does help someone to overcome an addiction overnight, in the blink of an eye, but at other times, it is something that the person has to work through, over a period of time, with God's help, His strength and often the support of one or two trusted friends or leaders who can pray for the person and help to keep him/her accountable, or help in other practical ways.

  • When_We_Were_Both_Cats@xanga

    Sex is good. The porn industry isn't. 

  • llamalima@xanga

    @wilfulsunflower@xanga -

     
    1/  "I don't agree that the Relevant Magazine article presented a secular worldview."
    I feel that the same reasoning could be applied to Joel Osteen or Joyce Meyer. They have some *similar* teachings with the Bible. Heck, they may even quote it occasionally, but it's not a holistic examination of Scripture. I would argue that positive thinking is very far from what Paul had intended from when he wrote Phillipians. I don't deny the usefulness of positive thinking either. :P

    It's not the scientific explanation that I have an issue with--it's not holistic in how it understand human nature. Dopamines are very real and relevant, but I don't think it is the only reason that we sin. It is not only our fallen nature that tempts us, but also the world tempts us--Satan tempts us. The monster is not only inside of us, but outside of us. 

    2/ Why can't porn be both an addiction as well as a sin? 

    I think I may have not explained myself as well as I should. I think the point you make is completely valid. I see it that addiction is a part of sin, but it's not substitutionary. Addiction may describe our attitudes towards alcohol or drugs or pornography, but sin encompasses addiction and a whole lot more. 

    Hope that clarifies things. Feel free to drop any other points or bring up ones that missed in your original comment, I want to keep the conversation going. :)

  • RevoHor@xanga

    You should read my blog. I am fighting and writing to improve the image of sex within the church and the discussion of it among Christians. Like you, I am excited about it. There is no reason for us to be afraid of the topic, no reason to hold back from speaking truth about it.


    Major kudos to you, brother.
  • llamalima@xanga

    @RevoHor@xanga - Haha, you're married--it's different when you're married. :P


    Subbed and friended. :)
  • RevoHor@xanga

    @llamalima@xanga - Oh, is it? Somebody should have told me then. I may be having sex, but that doesn't change much.


    Friendship accepted and reciprocated. ^_^
  • MagisterTom@xanga

    @llamalima@xanga - @RevoHor@xanga - I'm not married. But, from what I've heard and seen, being married doesn't take away lust or a sinful addiction to pornography. People marry thinking it will, but it doesn't.

  • RevoHor@xanga

    @MagisterTom@xanga - So true. Married men still lust, watch porn, and jack off. I wrote an entire blog post some time ago about the lie the church spreads about marriage and marrital sex "fixing" everything. Such BS. That's not to say I'm disappointed in marriage, but rather I'm angry at the lie from the church.

  • saia1@xanga

    If you consider a person with no real sexual outlet (for what ever reason) I think it would drasticaly change the way porn is ultimately viewed. Masterbation is like putting a band aid on a flesh wound when it comes to the scope of our GODGIVEN sexual needs. A healty view of sex is neccesary any way, and futher more if two people choose to fornicate on camera for money, it is aparent nothing is going to stop them. The industry has taken strides to repare its image and be resposible for what is put out there. Women are demanding more respect, and are NOT performing under gunpoint mind you, the "stars" make a choice, and make an effort to be respectful about it. The sheer number of COUPLES, (not strangers having sex) that share their lovemaking is staggering. If they throw the bedroom door open, dont judge, dont gawk in private, just dont watch it. But dont think its going anywhere anytime soon. A high level of modesty not necessarily morality would probably dictate if couple would share what they do behind closed doors. Sex it self isnt immoral, but poses moral issues for most people. So its a case by case senario. Group sex, or sex outside of marriage, the bigger issues. So, again, take in consideration the man or woman still waiting on God for a spouse. They may wait awhile, but sooner or later thoes needs have to be met, and while they may want to wait, you know they are hoping it wont be much longer. I would be a 40 year old virgin if I waited on my husband. I had a long talk with the holy father, and was still able to honor the fact that I WANTED to wait in the first place. Im also not ashamed to say I didnt wait for my husband. Im sure God means for us to be happy, and sex is apart of the human equasion, so you do the math.

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