Monday, 02 July 2012

  • What Exactly is Prayer?

    Prayer is something that I've been thinking, and probably should have been writing, a lot about lately. I'm starting to think that I've grown up with an incorrect concept of what prayer is and what it does. I've also started to realize I've had an incorrect concept of most of Christianity all around, hence the reason for these recent postings. Prayer is a heavy concept wrapped in a package so simple that it can seem like there must be something more. Prayer is simply carrying on a conversation with God.

    My understanding of prayer was a lot like how I've heard other people describe it, or how I've seen them try to use it. It was talking to God, but with the intent of getting what you want out of the transaction. It was usually done in a "Dear Lord-- Thank You for -- Please give me -- Amen" format, and there was often a more-than-subtle implication that if we say it just right, with exactly the right words and precisely the right state of heart, we'll get the thing we're asking for, whether that might be a new bike or a cure for someone's terminal cancer. But prayer is not witchcraft; there isn't a spell we can concoct that will make God bend to our will.

    In a lot of ways, I also didn't understand the power of prayer or see the necessity for it. If I pray for something, even something good and noble, and nothing happens, than the excuse I got was that I must not have done it right, or I must have sin in my life that is preventing God from hearing my requests, or it just must not have been God's will. After a few ineffectual prayers and more than a few attempts at troubleshooting the problem (Maybe I should call Him 'Father'... maybe I should give up sugary snacks... maybe I need to fast...), it can start to seem like prayer just doesn't work. People talk about the power of prayer, and they expound amazing events that they saw "with their very own eyes!" that 'prove' that prayer works, but I wasn't seeing it. I've seen enough to know that God is real and that God is powerful, but I never saw prayer do much more than what seemed coincidental or easily explained in other ways. What I did see was a lot of other people who were disillusioned with 'the power of prayer' and, alongside it, with the God they had been praying to. So I was left wondering why prayer didn't seem to work for me, and if it ever really worked for anyone else.

    I was also left wondering why anyone needed prayer. God is all-powerful and all-knowing, and He has a plan that IS going to happen despite stupid, little me and the dumb things I do. (Remember Jonah?) So why would God need prayer to make things happen? He knows the things I need in life whether I tell Him about them or not. If I don't ask God for help, is He going to say, "Oh, well, I never knew you needed that; you didn't say anything." And what about the little boy who's sick in bed, for whom the church is gathering for two hours every day to pray. If they didn't pray that often and that hard, or if four people show up today instead of five, is God going to let that little boy die? If no one prays for this little boy, is God going to kill him? God's will is either for this little boy to die or not die; does the responsibility of deciding his fate really fall to me? In these situations, I kept finding myself praying, "God, just do whatever You want." Which is what He was going to do anyway, right? I would look around and watch these other people in fervent prayer so deep they were sweating, and I would wonder, morbidly, if anything they were doing really had any effect. If I don't pray, will it nullify what they're doing? What if I pray for the opposite thing? What if I pray to God to make this kid kick off? If there are fifty people praying for something, and I pray for the opposite thing, is my prayer less powerful than theirs? Would God say, "I'm sorry, we needed fifty-one people to fill the prayer bucket, and you just didn't quite make it. Sorry, Timmy!" ZAP!

    Really?

    But this is what I thought prayer was. This is what some people tried to tell me prayer was, and I just couldn't understand.

    I could understand that God, who I knew to be loving and caring and involved in my life, would want me to talk to Him and spend time with Him. I could understand why He would want to hear me tell Him the things I'm struggling with right now, even though He already knows what they are. And I can especially understand why He would want me to get to a place where I can be quiet and alone and focused on Him, ready to hear what He has to say.

    But I couldn't understand what this prayer stuff was that people kept trying to convince me about. I couldn't understand why some prayer-spell should make all-powerful God suddenly turn zombie-genie and obey my every whim. And I couldn't understand why I would want that. After all, His plan is way better than anything I could come up with, so why would I want to mess with that? If anything, prayer seems harmful; I don't want to pray for something, and get it, that is a less-good alternative to what God had in store for me.

    But that's not what prayer is. Prayer is communication with God; it can be vocal or thought-out or even wordless. Some of the most heart-felt prayers have no words in them. There isn't a standard or pattern to prayer anymore than there is a standard to talking to your friends. God is your friend, and you can talk to Him the same way you would talk to anybody else; I do that all the time. Prayer is a way of reminding us that God really is right there, knee-deep in the same muck we're trudging through. Prayer is a way of focusing us on Him and readying us to listen, a way of allowing ourselves to bend to His will. Prayer is a way of consciously including God in our lives. He's there already, and prayer is a way to acknowledge Him. Prayer is communicating with our God, talking and laughing and enjoying His presence, being together with Him because we love Him and want to spend time with Him. It's not controlling Him, it's gathering together with Him. Prayer is most powerful in its effect in us to bring inward change, not outward. That doesn't mean that prayer doesn't have outward effects, but right now, I'm focusing on the inward. This isn't the only thing prayer is, but it's enough for one day, don't you think?

    What is prayer to you?  How do you pray? 

Comments (11)

  • PrisonerxOfxLove@xanga

    I think it's unfortunate that people have to stumble around for years simply to learn the basics. 

    The Catechism of the Catholic Church answers any question a person can have about the Christian faith. Every Christian should keep one handy.  I refer to it constantly.

    Here is just a couple of things the Catechism says about prayer:

    "Prayer is the raising of one's mind and heart to God or the requesting of good things from God." But when we pray, do we speak from the height of our pride and will, or "out of the depths" of a humble and contrite heart?"

    "He who humbles himself will be exalted; humility is the foundation of prayer, Only when we humbly acknowledge that "we do not know how to pray as we ought," are we ready to receive freely the gift of prayer."


    "Man is a beggar before God."


    From Section 1, Prayer In the Christian Life    LINK
  • HLPU@xanga

    Actually, Scriptures answer this question.  While I appreciate the post, let us not become too flippant.  God is God.  We ought to have great respect and humbleness for He who created all, who forgives our spite of Him, and who redeems us from the evil one.

  • vicdaily@xanga

    We had a whole Bible study dedicated to prayer. You may want to look up the scripture that outlines what prayer is. I pray constantly or try to. It's just a prolonged conversation for my relationship with the Lord.

  • dw817@xanga
    Now you're it!!

    Well, I know how prayer works. Unfortunately, it's not very effective.

    So you don't pray for something that you want. You go out and STEAL it first and then ask for forgiveness from God for sinning. He's more likely to listen to you then. That's how you do it !

  • Lovegrove@xanga

    Prayer may include recognition and  petition but is mainly just being

  • ProudToBeAChristianFruitcake@xanga

    Prayer, is also more than talking. People say it is a conversation, but they never stop and listen, instead they do all the talking and then walk away.

  • Pollypinks@xanga

    There's a constant need here to convince us that if we but choose the catholic way, all our hopes, prayers, and answers will be dealt with.  And our needs are dealt with, but they don't require that specific way of doing things to have our inner most needs heard by the  Father.  Televangelists are the scariest bunch here, telling followers to simply demand, require, or even tell God what we want, and if we have enough faith, voila, it's ours.  Want enough money?  It's yours.  Need a new car?  Aren't praying enough for it.  And let's not forget our financial contribution to these quack pots, that allow them to live in luxury.  While spending time in the Philippines, I was shocked at the number of people living in dirt floor huts, with as many as 15 children, all because they'd been told by the priest they'd go to hell if using birth control.  Then I strolled past his home, and guess what?  He had running water, electricity, two stories, and ample furniture for a family of 6.   So my bet here is why are we being told to follow a particular church, known for decades of  pedophilia, when what we really need to do is pray on our own, to our Father in heaven, and strengthen our ties with God that way, rather than through an institution's dreamed up ideas of prayer, or, marital living for that matter.

  • HLPU@xanga

    @Pollypinks@xanga - If by "catholic", you mean "Roman Catholic Church", then your point is more appreciable.  Yet, while the RCC is sinful in many areas, they do recognize law and gospel, so some good exists there.  More to the point, Jesus shows us to pray for what is needed and then rely upon God's will.  'Needed' and 'wanted' are not always identical, though.  How often do we pray for strength in our faith?  For our neighbors?  For our enemies?  Jesus kept pointing his disciples to eternity, to heaven.  False preachers tend to point to earthly riches. 

  • SheilaJoyce

    I've personally prayed at times, specifically for a deep desire('s), whatever it may have been, only to NOT receive...in the end be extremely glad they didn't happen...as wouldn't have resulted in the utter joy He's flooded on me...

    He knows what the outcomes will be of every request, good, bad, indifferent & personally, I'd much MUCH rather each outcome be in His control, as they're always full of blessings !

  • agapeartbeat

    The candidness and honesty of the author touched on many of the misconceptions people have about prayer.  Sharing them will make others more comfortable to discuss their questions too.  Prayer can be complicated because any number of things can hinder our prayers: unforgiveness in our hearts, a sin that is blocking God from hearing our prayers, asking but full of doubt while asking, the request is worthy but the timing isn't right, or God simply has a better plan because what we are asking for isn't truly beneficial for us.  One faith community also has a theory on why God doesn't always grant requests for healing.  They believe that if one has truly removed all the barriers to prayers and God still hasn't healed... then there must be a lesson for not just the sick person, but all those tending to that person, that can only be learned through the illness.  

    There are great bible studies and books on prayer as well as prayer groups who meet simply to pray for an hour etc.  I've learned quite a lot from both.  There are some great comments left on this post by others, so let me touch on some of the highlights that others haven't yet commented on:

    Faith requires action.  One of the books pointed out the creation story; how the Holy Spirit hovered and waited until God SPOKE... and then, and only then, did the Holy Spirit move to make something happen.   So too with prayer.  God always has the right to say, "no", but how many times is the Holy Spirit just hovering and waiting to bless us... we just need to speak our request into being through prayer; the action of our faith?

    If one has some time and not rushing through prayer, the prayer group taught great ways to help keep our hearts and minds focused on God.  This isn't any "magic formula"... but it covers all the bases well.  They first pray scriptures as reminders of God's character and attributes.  They are wonderful reminders in how Glorious He is to put anything we are worried about into perspective in comparison to such a wonderful loving God.  From there it moves to a time of thanksgiving...all the things we are thankful for.  From there it moves into a time of repentance and asking for forgiveness of sin.  (This time in a group is silent prayer).  At the very end...the very end, is a time for prayer requests or just sitting and waiting on God to speak to our Spirit.  Sometimes we share what is in our Spirit.  

    As often as I pray by myself, community prayers are important... wherever two or more are gathered is VERY powerful.

    Finding and praying scriptures (those including God's promises) over a situation is powerful as well.  And praying "the blood of Jesus" over a situation is also powerful.  Again, not magic ingredients, just powerful if your prayer falls within God's Will.  And THAT is the main thing... not the words you use, but whether or not they fall within God's Will.

  • slimwaist_tinyface@xanga

    Hmm, we don't always get what we asked for maybe because it is not the right timing. For awhile I asked for a boyfriend and now after two years of endlessly searching and going through a bunch of wrong guys I just let go and gave it up to God. I think God wants to fill that empty place in my heart first, give me hope and a new life, and God doesn't want a boyfriend to take that place. One day God may give me a boyfriend but I don't want to do it when it's not in His timing.

    It's okay to ask God for things but you're right most of the time us humans only ask God for things. For instance when I was an agnostic ONLY time I prayed was like when I wanted my parents to win a Bingo or something. Did I live for God? NO. But I prayed to the Man Upstairs because I thought by a miracle He could do something even as an agnostic person NOT living for God.. later I became a Christian though which is where I am now lol.

    I still ask God for things but also Christians or non-believers or people seeking to know God can ask God for His forgiveness... or they can ask God for help to help them change. Asking for things isn't bad but if it's greed that makes people ask for things God may not grant it. Does God hear our prayers? Yes. God will answer those in His will... some things are just not in His will.. or maybe He has something better that's just the way it is. God chooses how he wants to answer our prayers and He hears us.

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