Very Well said, the only thing I can add is among believers we can & should talk to a "brother" if they have a sin issue that they are ignoring but  There is a protocol...this "talk" is not judging.

Judging right and wrong, judging someone's character, judging whether something is just or unjust, good or evil is a proper use of the intellect.

Such judging is called wisdom.

When we judge other people, which is also proper, we must be sure to keep any hurtful things to ourselves, however.  Knowing that someone is dishonest, hypocritical or disloyal is very useful information.

However, it is not useful to use this type of information to hurt people who suffer from those afflictions.

Being rude or hateful or making hasty and inaccurate judgments are problems that should concern us.

@Big_Bang_Theory@xanga - exercise of the brain in any event is always good. :) You're on all the sites now, huh Sheldon.

@edlives@xanga - Right. Even in the oft quoted verse by Jesus, "Judge not lest ye be judged", he's not saying not to judge but to not judge hypocritically. In other words, if you are a liar, how can you judge someone else that lies. If you read further Jesus says, "First remove the log from your own eye and THEN you can see clearly to remove the speck from someone else's eye." We can judge and help remove the speck from someone else's eye after we remove the log from our own eye.

This post is just to "deep" and "complicated" for me to figure out. 

It's one of my worst character flaws, finding fault in others.  I recognize this and constantly work on it, but man it's hard.  How do we know when we've made a good judgment?  I suppose there are levels of judgments, and so forth.  It's easy to pick on someone of another faith, or pick on someone who has race issues, but how do we incorporate the 2nd commandment?

Did Jesus only heal those with insurance cards who could make the co-pay?  Were his apostles taught to teach people only without brown skin?  Cause there's sure a lot of hate going on with folks who have brown skin.  Or. find it in the N.T. where Jesus talked about killing  homosexuals.  I'd like to see that verse.  And I'm not talking about the mean spirited junk Paul came up with that's been totally misrepresented.  Or, when women in that culture were not allowed to speak in public, leave the home alone, speak in the home, did Jesus use Priscilla and Deborah in his ministry?  Because in my life time, they were still hanging blacks, and punishing no one for it, and women were still and still now not being paid equal money for equal work.  It's kind of like, every woman is going to go out there and find a real good catch ( shit) and poop out a quiver full of kids till her bladder falls down, and do her duty.  All of these things are judgment calls, but we don't talk about them.

I agree, giving others the benefit of the doubt is what we'd like to be given as well.  Point taken.  It's hard to do that looking at history with the KKK, and all the other heinous people out there.  It also reminds me of how we mold young minds.  My husband teaches 6th grade, and the year of the last presidential election was interesting for him to watch in his classroom.  One day a young boy blurted out, "I HATE liberals."  After giving it quite a pause my husband asked him if he hated him.  Well, of course not, Mr. so and so.  I've always respected you.  And then my husband said, "Well, I'm a liberal."  And it made for interesting feedback about working together as community, and finding points of common interest rather than points of hatred.  I think we've found points of hatred in Christianity, with only certain groups insisting they are saved, and their children must not be friends with those who aren't just exactly like them.  Children who go to another denomination, let's say.  And for as much as we can find in the Bible about only hanging around with perfect people like some of us think we are, there's plenty of stuff in there about just the opposite.  Like loving thy neighbor.