Friday, 17 February 2012
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Sin and Struggle: Can You Help?
[Editor's note: The author of this post has been very open about the sin issues affecting his life. Please be sensitive to this and comment in a respectful manner.]I'm new here. I have been a Christian for years, and I love God deeply. I was filled with joy and hope the moment I accepted Jesus as my saviour.
However, I started to fall away months later. I'm having problems with sexual sin. I have been trying so hard to resist temptation and not to succumb to evil desire, but each time I fall after some inner struggles.
I want to be holy and do the right thing, and I can't tolerate sinning this way against God over and over again. I feel guilty each time after I sin, and I detest it so much looking back on what I've done. I have the tendency to go to porn when I have sexual desire and indulge in masturbation. Soon after that, I'm guilt stricken and feel extremely bad about myself, and I go back to repent each time.
I can't think of the day when I will not sin this way anymore, but I believe that day will come. I don't want to repeat the same sin over and over again.
Please tell me how to stop and pray for me. I've been trying so hard, it's seriously causing damages to my life. Sometimes I ponder whether God will forgive me or not. I don't want to spend too much time thinking about sin, but it is a problem that I can't ignore. I feel so ashamed and dare not to bring this problem out and share with people. I have no accountable partner.
Have you ever struggled with similar sin? How does one overcome such strong desires? What does scripture say about the forgiveness God has for us?Any pastors and fellow brothers and sisters here? Please pray for me, and I'm looking forward to your great advice.
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If one has an itch, best to scratch it and forget it. The alternatives are worse.
James 1:2-5 'Count it all joy, my brethren, when ye fall into manifold temptations; Knowing that the proving of your faith worketh patience. And let patience have [its] perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, lacking in nothing.'
Holiness is a journey. I can wish to see revealed the man I hope to be someday, but it doesn't change the man I am today. Only time and God, who is love, can reveal more of who I am. Peter hoped to offer unconditional love (even to death) to Jesus at the time of the last supper, and yet it was only some 30 years later that he realized that...when he was martyred upside down on a cross (according to church tradition). It was 30 years of walking with the Holy Spirit to see in reality what he hoped to see at a time earlier in his life.
Have you ever considered what the word Holy actually means? It doesn't mean be a good boy, it has German and middle english roots and means whole, integrated, non-transgressible...and the ancient Hebrew word translated as the English word Holy means 'set apart, not influenced by.' So the best modern synonym for the word Holy is: authentic.
Encourage you to seek Holiness and authenticity, which means feeling your feelings and assess your motivations without judgement...and believing yourself to be a good gift and that your soul is actually leading you to a good place...the place you hope for and dream of.
God bless you on your journey...you are not the first man, who didn't see revealed who he hoped to be in an early season of his life...and neither was Peter, the rock...but it seems clear to me that both of you are loved dearly by the living God!
God delights in you far more than you can realize. There is no shame with him. The more we understand the depth and breadth of his completed forgiveness, the more we understand who we are now as his children, the easier it becomes to rush back to him when we goof up or fall, and the less shame has a hold on us.
Shame is a big part of the lust cycle. When it is gone, that secret hold that lust has on us also fades.
it sounds to me like you may possibly be contending with a porn or sex addiction? one of the best things you can do is seek a counselor for this - i'm sure there are christian counselors in particular who can help guide you. have a google search for you area or check in with your local church for resources. you don't have to be specific, just ask if they have a list of reccomended counselors who can help you through some difficult challenges.
all the best.
I understand what it's like to feel that you can't resist a certain temptation, and for me the first step has been to get my mind alligned with the truth. We know that God allows no temptation without providing a way out, and that every temptation we face is common to other people as well (1 Car 10:13). Believe this with your whole heart. Be confident that there is a way to avoid this sin, and that God will help you.
Then pursue the way out. For sexual sin / porn / masturbation, the way out often begins with controling the mind. What I mean is, stop looking or lingering on suggestive images, or women/men in general. You see an attractive person coming toward you, look away. You see a suggestive TV commercial, or character on a program, or picture in a magazine... turn away. Refuse to look. And while you are averting your eyes, get into the habit of affirming, "I refuse to lust" and speak to God, "Lord I believe you give me the strength to avoid this sin." Develop confidence in this, because it is true!
When you are alone at home and tempted toward internet porn, you may need to find an accountability partner... another Christian of the same gender you can trust, who will check up on you and question you about your temptation. It is even possible to install software that will allow someone else to see what you do on the computer. Just knowing that someone else knows can go a long way toward avoiding this temptation. Lust an masturbation thrive on privacy and secrecy. They hate being exposed. So expose them to a trusted accountability partner.
If you can't find such a person, try blocking certain websites yourself. Make them difficult to access. The longer it takes you to access them the more time you have to disarm the temptation, to verbally ask God for help, to verbally affirm "I will not indulge in this anymore!" To remind yourself "If I do this I will hate myself. Jesus, empower me to walk away!" Then walk away. Become firmly convinced in your own mind that God's Word is true - you CAN resist this; God DOES provide a way out; He doesn't hate you, He is ready to work for your freedom! Jesus will set you free from the power of sin. Be confident in His ability to do it.
Along the way you will probably have failures (as you have already) but they don't have to be daily, or even weekly. Eventually they don't have to happen at all. Just be confident that freedom is possible, because God said it is possible, and God has provided the power to do it. And don't think for one minute that God is disgusted with you. You are worth dying for to God. If you don't give up, neither will He, and even if you give up He won't. He really does love you.
DD
I found reading the Bible and meditating on Jesus's sacrifice helps me not want to sin. The closer you are to the cross, the harder it is to sin. Also, find some people who will keep you accountable. There are also programs out there like Covenant Eyes, or just talk to someone weekly, even if you don't want to share all the details.
My message box is always open if you need someone to talk to confidentially.
People above have offered some good tips, too. Already you know what your temptations are, how you respond to certain stresses and situations, so one key to overcoming them is to avoid the trap. For example if you take a usual route through a forest that you know has a huge pit in the trail and you keep falling into it, take a different route and avoid the pit altogether, rather than think "this time I can jump over it."
If you struggle with internet pornography, try to move your computer into a less private space (if you live with a roommate or family member, that is). That way the thought of someone walking in when you are watching pornography will help fortify you against that temptation. When you are tempted to masturbate, put yourself immediately in a place where you cannot do it, go for a walk, whatever you can do to break the pattern and the habit of sin. Sin tends to have a natural habitat of sorts; destroy that habitat and the sin has nowhere to hide.
If you feel up to the challenge, though, the absolute best thing to do in order to help against this struggle is to talk to someone about it. A comment above suggested addiction therapy; you might also seek the help of a trusted pastor, a friend (the kind that isn't afraid to challenge you and hold you accountable) or even a family member. Someone you can be honest and frank with; sin thrives in the dark, but once you drag it into the light it begins to lose its power. Notice in the Bible when Jesus encounters the Gerasene demoniac he demands to know its name? Knowing the name of evil diminishes its hold on you; once you drag it into the light over and over again it loses its places to hide.
I will be praying for you.
I know how absolutely devastating this sin is and the escalating pain and frustration that it causes is quite unbearable. You have all my prayers and brotherly love!
I strongly urge you to read and study the book of 1st John. I have held accountable by the witness of 1:5-9 specifically and encouraged by the whole of that book to press on.
This kind of sexual sin is one of the most devastating and deadly sexual sins we can find ourselves in. This kind of sin will try to cause you to trample on the spirit of grace and lead you into faithlessness by causing you to think that there is no more grace left for you.
I know that I have struggled with this sin for over 14 years in my life: I want you to know that there is sufficient grace available to you. Secondly, I want you to know that it is not permissible for us to go on walking in darkness.
No matter what deep-dark filthy whole you find yourself trapped in, God's grace and power is sufficient to get you out. Sin shall not have power over you because of Christ Jesus our Lord!
Beyond that, I know that the Lord has laid on me the witness that I need to learn and grow the fruits of self-control from within the Spirit. I ask that you also pray for me in this, because that is where I'm at right now. Learning from the Spirit to produce the fruit of Self-control (as stated in 2nd Peter 1:1-11 and Galatians 5:22).
Grace and Peace in the repentance of the Lord Jesus Christ be granted to you as you are reconciled by the blood of Christ!
Press on, and never lose sight of our goal!
Please don't be afraid to talk to a 'real' pastor/christian who you know and trust about this struggle. My husband suffered from this sin and it led to him abusing my and nearly broke our marriage, he finally realised it was a problem and spoke to our pastor about it. Like the vicar above said, if you bring it out into the light it has nowhere to hide. Don't be afraid of their reaction, a true believer in God will not judge you, but will show you love and support and help. You are not alone, I will pray for you.
I'm going to second or third the motion here for some therapy. What you are dealing with needs tools to help you recover. It sounds like you are broken, hurt, and very possibly there is an addiction involved, which doesn't mean you are a bad person. And even if a counselor decides there is not an addiction, there is impulse behavior that is covering up some kind of inner need that cannot be met at this time. God loves you and supports you through this, and you are forgiven, but you must take steps to overcome this and not think you can handle this alone. At some point in time, a support group would be very helpful. You won't believe the number of people out there struggling with the same thing you are. I wish you hope, peace, love, and the strength of the comforter... Please seek out professional help, and if you have no insurance, seek out a support group for addictions.
So You Want to Kick Your Own Behind But Need Someone To Explain How: here's my suggestion.
When you feel your own behavior has wronged yourself then appropriate self punishment can solve the problem. You can kick your own behind and it doesn't take much effort.Your subconscious can learn and be retrained reasonably quick.
First, it wasn't mentioned but if you are not baptized then go and be baptized. It is terrific to "have accepted Jesus as my Saviour" but baptism is better.
A long while ago and for a number of years I worked in a place where use of the F word in every sentence was normal for many people. I didn't want to be like that. You asked, "please tell me how to stop..." Try this suggestion. I think it is a good one. The first rule about this is a "decision" to not cheat on your corrective action. No cheating. Apply the correction for every appropriate circumstance.
Put an elastic band on your wrist. Whenever you sense you are about to act on your thoughts then you know what to do. Make it sting a little. Decide on what the line is. Don't cross it without parenting yourself. Follow the sting by something a little more time consuming and which will accumulate a count. Pain and reflection is a 2 step process. For me step 2 involved several washers and 2 pair of nuts and bolts. Immediately or as soon as you safely and reasonably can then stop what you are doing and do whatever that will keep a tally and take a little time doing it. My thing was I would move a washer from my starting (good) bolt onto the bad bolt. It meant unthreading the nuts from the bolts so I could move the washer over and then threading the nuts back into place. The whole time you can't help but think about why you are taking the time to do this and if you had just snapped your wrist with the binder then
this is all getting drilled into your subconscious. You might want to do something that requires skill like tossing M&Ms into a tall coffee cup placed some challenging distance away. That might work only if your bad behavior comes up only when near your computer.
At the end of the day when those 2 bolts come out of your pockets or whatever tool you came up with and you reflect on your score or your lack of commitment then make it count. Think about it and make a plan to get better about it the next day. You might get over it in only a couple of weeks if you try doing something like that. I was much better with my communication skills after just a couple weeks of kicking my own behind.
Kind Regards,
@FullTruthSeeker@xanga - I wish I had read something like this, back in the day. I used to have the same sort of issue... I had a similar idea. It was a lot more self destructive. I have no visible scars. But... my behaviour. My behaviour no longer includes staying in bed, imagining things I have no business imagining, but it does include really weird things. I'll get really, really shaky over flashbacks I have, and... They're nasty. I wish I could help having them, but... I made my bed.
Walk-of-Faith, I want you to know, you're not alone. God helped my life to get back up to reasonable, and even sometimes really nice, standards. I recovered. So can you. I believe in you, Bro/Sis.
I don't understand if its the act of watching porn and masturbating that you don't like or is it the amount you do it?
You need to stop being so hard on yourself. Masturbation is normal behavior that just about everybody does. And rmeber do not knock masturbation...it will not kill you. Personally I do not think it is a sin...the porn part might be. Maybe you should go out and find yourself a girlfriend and try to keep yourself busy and your mind occupied so that you think about something else.
I use to feel the same way when I was your age and I did it a lot but then I changed my opinion about it and as I got older (I am 51)I stopped doing it all together and now I can't because of a variey of illnesses I have.
And I am Christian who does not believe that masturbation is a sin but I think you must remeber that no one is perfect and that God is still in the business of forgiving sins. Especially when your are genuine. LIk yours are. You will be fine.
Don't knock masturbation it will not kill you. And don't be so hard on yourself. God will not be.And like I said if you feel it is a sin than take comfort in the fact that God is still in the business of forgiving sins if your guit is sincere which I think it is..
...there is a story of a man that needed to hire someone to drive his truck...the truck carried all of this man's valuables...but the path they needed to travel was near a cliff...many accidents had happened time and time again on that road...The first driver he interviewed told the man that he was so good of a driver that he could drive within inches of the cliff's edge the whole time and never lose the cargo!...the second driver that was interviewed was to afraid to drive on that road and refused to work...the third driver told the man -i will stay as far as possible as i can from the edge...i know how important your valuables are!...the man chose the third driver.
...truth is my friend you can't really go a day without something showing up that is not stumbleling...whatever issue anyone is dealing with...its how we deal with it...there is a reason this is all so heavy on your heart...and conviction means your faith is alive...i could quote you a bible verse...or i could tell you the truth...the struggle is not the walk...we fall because we walk...those who stand still never go anywhere...what stumbles us does not define us...the answers to the reasons we struggle with something come from heaven.
...with any issue in our lives...we know how close we can get...and how far we should be.
be encouraged.
God counts the times you pick yourself up (Reconciliation) more than the times you fall (sin). Regardless of numbers.
i just want to say at a young age i went through this difficulty it was through the holy spirit i stopped i kept on praying and trusting in God that all things are posible, i love Jesus and i know if you dont kill sin sin will kill you even at this young age God revealed things to me and still supported me in school and i grow closer to God but i wanted to get even closer i then realised that the reason why i wasnt growning closer was because of this sexual sin i didnt even watch it i would just look at photos or picture and think that it wast a sin but let me tell you something it sure was . i prayed and asked God for his compassion and his grace and ever since that day i was truely saved glory be to God i know that there is a wasy out of this kind of issue all you,ve got to do is have the fear of God and seek for him but most importantly try through the spirit to do what is right i pray for thoughs having this difficulty i hope through the grace you cna overcome this unnecseray sexual desire God bless
@Lovegrove@xanga - most appropriate and factual answer