Monday, 02 January 2012
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Living With The Pastor
Everyone looks up to the pastor as a leader and an example. The pastor is seen as the pinnacle of a church and rightly so as he is the human shepherd of the flock. Jesus is the true shepherd but the pastor has been called by God to serve as a leader in the church and how many times do we consider the thought of leading by example? Therefore, I come back to my first statement. Everyone looks up to the pastor as a leader and an example.I think the worst part about being a PK -- pastor's kid for all of you not up with the lingo -- is seeing all the faults in a pastor. I mean this in no bad way. Everyone is human and everyone has faults and a sinful nature. But when you expect to look up to the pastor as an example it is difficult to not judge the everyday mishaps of life.
"Practice what you preach" is a common aphorism. For pastors this is not just a pithy, everyday saying. It is a lifestyle. But everyone makes mistakes. The problem therein is not judging the pastor for not practicing what he preaches simply because he makes mistakes in everyday life. As every human does.
People see pastors as holier than most and when you live with the pastor you see his humanity all too well and miss out on the opportunity to look up to the pastor as a leader and example like the rest of the church. But is it really missing out? The trick is to not look at it as missing out but as an added blessing and a learning experience.
That a human can be as soaked and covered in the Bible as a pastor is and yet the humanity allows for error that will keep them from being put on a pedestal so that Jesus is the only one raised above. We are all human and we all ought to be held to the same high bar. So if the pastor is held to a higher standard then the rest of us; we should not all gasp in unison when he falls below the standard but instead we should offer support and reach for that same standard ourselves.
See it as a blessing when you see a pastor with a family. They are serving the Lord in more ways then most imagine. And stop giving PK's a bad rep. Some of us actually do care and don't really appreciate the stereotype. Everyone has a place in life and has been called to something. If a man has been called to lead a church and have a family then may God bless him all the more. And may his family support him fully rather than giving in to the temptation to judge him every time he fails at practicing what he preaches 100%.
It's a constant struggle for me to not judge my father too harshly every time I see something 'hypocritical,' but that just goes to show how much I myself need to work.
Any other thoughts on living with the pastor? Are you a pastor's kid or know someone who is? What are the benefits of living with the pastor?
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I know someone who's a PK (that's the first time I've heard that) and it's kind of sad because there was a falling out between the pastor and his son, which eventually ended up in the PK being wrongly kicked out of the house. They have not talked to each other for months, and it's really a sad thing to have happened. It has upset the whole church, and yet remains swept under the rug. It's a shame.
I think we honor our fathers and mothers by appreciating all the great things they do for us, rather than judging them for not being perfect.
On my way to being a pastor's wife. His studies in Seminary are certainly strengthening my faith and our relationship. I know that it's going to be a rocky road, but I'm looking forward to it.
I am a PK and know full well the human-side of a pastor. My father isn't my personal pastor as he lives in another part of the state, but being a PK has helped me see my own pastor as a human first and a Christian leader second. My father's failings help me to see ever more what an ultimate example Jesus set for us. Even a pastor fails, Jesus never does. Yeah being a PK has it's drawbacks but I would never trade my father for anything in the world. I love him for being my father, not for being a pastor.
Im not a kid but a wife. The only one perfect is Jesus, as a human, your dad is doing the best he can imperfectly. He is also imperfectly trying to do what God has called him to do but at least he is trying. If your dad was perfect, then maybe you would worship him and not Jesus. That was the conclusion I came to when I used to hear my husband speak and Id think to myself and tell God; "yeah, do that at home!" One day I was convicted of my thoughts and I heard this being said; "Try hearing Me instead of him." I prayed before service that I would hear the voice of God and not my husband... It was incredible how much I learned that day and the many times after.
Keep your chin up and be blessed.This is why Paul wrote 1 Timothy 1 through 1 Timothy 3. It's also why Jesus spoke the words of John 21:15-17
No pastor is going to be perfect, and of course their family will be the first to see their faults, but I'm of the mind that we ought to be just as careful as churches in choosing our pastors as we are in forgiving them for their faults. Not everyone is suited to the Pastoral role, and an earnest desire, the best of intentions, do not qualify one for that role. (James 3:1)
Of course we should realize our pastors are human too, but if there's any place we ought to be a little too picky, and intrusive into someone's personal life, it's when we're searching for a pastor. If you're going to lead a flock, you ought to be able to lead your own house well first.
It seems we're on a trend of not being "judgmental" but that makes me wonder why we were given so many qualifications on which to make a judgment...
My husband is currently on his internship phase of his seminary/pastoral career. He is always teaching me something new about God, the Bible, our Faith, etc. The hardest part for me is knowing that there are expectations that come along with being a Pastor's wife. Now while those rules have relaxed a lot since the 1950's... many older generations or more conservative churches/church members feel the Pastor's wife should be involved in everything. I do enjoy attending church, however I have no intention of being there for every single Bible Study, church fundraiser, I will not play the piano or teach Sunday School. While I am 100% supportive of him, this is his calling, not necessarily mine. I have my own career that I want to be successful at. I am more than just a wife, I am a women who is educated and likes working, and hopefully someday I will be a Mother as well. Luckily for me, my husband is very understanding of this. He doesn't even care if I worship at his Church. I do because I like being in the same space as him during the Church service, and he is a gifted minister in training. I also find it odd that people expect him to be perfect and assume that our marriage is wonderful as well. Don't get me wrong, he is a great person, but he too sins. Yes he swears on occasion, makes mistakes, and drinks (we are Lutheran...so that is pretty acceptable to most of the church congregants). Our marriage is great, but we struggle like any other couple. We have fights and we have been through some hard times, but we are committed to each other. If only people would stop looking at a Pastor and his family as such a higher position. We are just people to, and we are a family like any other. The only difference is in the profession that he holds.
I'm a PK and my dad is one of my best friends. I guess I'm lucky that for the most part my dad really walked the talk. Once all us kids were out of the house, my parents sold everything and currently serve in the slums of India. That's the real deal.
I think because my dad was so genuine, I really took stuff that was said about him by church members to heart. My family suffered a lot from gossip and unreal expectations. My brother has walked away from Christianity- mainly because of the actions of people supposed to be elders in the church who instead acted like a gang of middle school girls. My brother still has much respect for my dad and I hope in the end that helps him find his way back.
I definitely treat my pastor and his family with great love. I actually went off on someone who was being critical of our pastor's wife. Probably shouldn't have, but I have zero tolerance for people talking bad about them instead of going to them with the issue.
I have had several pastors become dear friends.... and I have seen them be human. I have seen many members who think their children should not act like children, but be perfect just as the pastor should be perfect.
Everyone is human and sins. Only Jesus did not. Thank you for sharing this.
One of my coworkers is a PK and he once said "I swear to God" about something small and trivial and I didn't hold him to a high standard or judge him. He's human like everybody else. Also one of his sisters is bi and the other one had a shotgun marriage and they're human too.
A former coworker is a PK, but his dad started preaching when he graduated High School so it didn't have a big impact on him. This coworker cusses constantly but I don't hold it against him either. He's human like everyone else.
I'm not a PK, but a former church's pianist's kid. I don't think people at church hold me to a high standard when I lose my temper or cuss. Weird, my non-devout coworkers know I'm a Christian and they hold me to a high standard.
@big_luke20@xanga - Do you really think it's weird? People at your church shouldn't judge you for your mistakes; they will see you through God's love and generally accept that we are indeed human and and mess up sometimes. But your non-believing coworkers don't understand God's love and grace or really what you believe; they only know that by calling yourself a christian you are called to obey God's standards over the world's so it seems they are right to hold you to a higher standard. It's true we're all human, but that gives no excuse for our sinning; that's exactly what Romans 6:1 is talking about. We still sin, but overall we ought to come off as having a purer lifestyle because we are of a different world and called to be holy. We can't just blow off sin as no big deal because we've already been forgiven. John 15 speaks of how we'll know a person by their fruit. If the world sees no fruit or fruit that is no different then theirs then how will we ever be able to evangelize?
@Krazy_monkey09@xanga - I'm not mad, but know what you mean. I bear fruit by how I work and live my life. I've been a prison guard for 2 1/2 years and I help my new coworkers all I can if they mess up. I've also told supervisors about coworkers acting up and doing unethical things and I do my job in an ethical manner. I also punish the inmates all I can and do my job in an ethical manner which are explained on the Sermon on The Mount, Romans, and Isiah (maybe). Best way I can say it.
On how I live my life, 75% of my coworkers get drunk every week, have bastard children, have premarital sex, have shotgun marriages, etc. You can count the number of times I've gotten drunk on 2 hands. I'm one of the few who actually have Biblical views on dating, sex and marriage and I've told coworkers and supervisors that. I also have lesbian and gay coworkers and I treat them like everybody else.
Also, at least all of my coworkers and PKs who have bastard children are trying to raise their children and want a decent father for them. Instead of adopting, aborting them or trying to get rid of them.
HA! I NEVER tell people that I'm a PK when I meet them. I wait until it comes up on it's own in conversation. That way, they get to know me for who I am first.
Sinicline's right, but I'd like to extend that a little further. Of course, not just anybody can lead a church. But even beyond that, not everyone "called to be a pastor" can lead a church either. At least, not at any given point in time. Yes, pastors are no less human than anyone else, absolutely. Yes, they still sin. BUT sin can certainly disqualify a man from being in a position to lead. Am I saying that some sins are greater than others? Not at all. It has to do with the position of the heart. If a pastor is consistently seeking his own, without any kind of repentance, he is not fit to lead others because he is clearly not heeding the Word of God. One pastor in particular continues to stand by his extra-marital relationship with his secretary - seeking his own, not fit to lead. That is, not fit right now. King David was extremely repentant of his immense sins (take your pick on whichever one we're talking about here!) and he was still fit to lead because his heart was repentant, humble, and sought the will of Lord over his own. Definitely fit to lead, even though he sins. This can com through in smaller ways, too. I recently heard of a pastor of a very successful mega church taking a sabbatical for a while because he realized that pride had crept into his heart. He recognized that he was seeking his own, rather than the Lord's will. Not a permanent banishment from the church, just a little stepping back for a while. THAT's what a leader should be like.
But you're right - people do need to realize that hey, pastors are people too.
@sinicline@xanga -
@big_luke20@xanga - Glad you realize i wasn't singling out what you said or trying to start any debate; i just found your comment to be the most interesting and thought provoking. I treat my job much the same way, and understand exactly what you are saying.
@FoxFire12@xanga - I'm the same way; i prefer to let the pk fact come out on it's own and let my personality and actions speak for themselves before i'm stereotyped too much