Monday, 19 September 2011
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I Want My Memory Back: Christianity and Hypnosis
Due to trauma in my past and my own terrible memory, I can't remember my childhood. I can picture my father as he is in photographs, but I can't, as hard as I try, remember his voice or his laugh. I can't remember my little sisters first steps. I can't recall how my parents acted back when they were in love. I want to remember my childhood.I decided that I would go to a hypnotist. I know that it'll be hard on me, but I think that it'll help in the long run. I mentioned it to my mother, who told me that it's unethical and furthermore, no Christian would go through with it.
She told me that she would find me a counselor. However, I've been in therapy for almost five years, and been through four therapists. I know that I've made significant progress, but nothing that I couldn't have done on my own just by thinking through my own problems. I don't think that therapy would help me remember. But even if it does, I'm tired of trying, and I'm tired of therapy.
Is hypnotism wrong? And if so, why? If hypnosis is spiritually out of the question, is there anything that I can do to get my memory back?
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Hypnosis, is very subjective. Some people "remember" things that are incorrect, because they went in thinking something happened, and were guided by either the person doing it, or thier own suspicion as to what happened, and therefore they remembered it. I don't think it is as effective as some people think.
If you have forgotten due to trauma, why would you want to remember? There are things that I have forgotten, about my childhood, due to verbal harrassment from my speech impediment. I have no desire to remember that.
Why do you want to remember trauma?
@ProudToBeAChristianFruitcake@xanga - Because it's my past. I want to know where I came from. Also, because all of my therapists have told me and my mother that I was abused sexually and/or raped. Namely because I showed all of the symptoms of someone who had been sexually abused as a child. I could remember fearing that my father would hurt me that way, but I have no idea whether or not he actually ever did those things. I want to lay the matter to rest once and for all; I want to know what really happened. I know that sounds naive, but honestly, after all my years of therapy and hospitalization, I know EXACTLY what I'm getting myself into.
If it were me, I would just lay all this at the foot of the cross. There is no good that will come out of knowing; only grief. Perhaps there's a (good) reason you don't remember. It's probably not a coincidence. Good luck to you.
For sure. That seems understandable. Sometimes the truth can be painful but knowing the truth can be worth it in the end. Plus, that could give you an opportunity to forgive your father if he did do anything.
I think the best thing to do is pray about it because God knows you best, He loves you and wants you to be happy, joyful. He will be there for you always.
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in my experience, those memories are blocked for a good reason... but everyone is different.
I know hypnosis might sound like a good idea.. but that is what a friend of mine thought and it went very wrong for her. Ideas were planted that were not true, which led to false testimony in a court case, which led to my friend spending a week in jail for lying on the stand. (and that is the short version).
She later started praying and seeking God, and asking Him to release her memory. After almost a month she finally got the answers she was seeking... and it pretty much devastated her.
It says in the Bible "seek and ye shall find"... so I believe that if you are going to know what happened to you, seek God, and you will find what you are looking for. Just be prepared to not like what you find... sometimes not knowing is better.
@smgcrossfire@xanga - I understand the need to know where you came from and what happened. It feels as if it's fundamental to knowing who you are. I advise you to be careful, though. Check credentials, see if you can find some testimonials - maybe someone you know and trust has been see by a good hypnotist and can give you some feedback from the experience?
Research is so important - it's the difference between remembering and walking out of the office with false memories.
Also, be ready to deal with the consequences of remembering. @apb102088@xanga has an excellent point. There must be a good reason you don't remember what happened to you. Most likely your mind acted in self defense and just blocked it out.
I hope everything works out for you! {{{{hugs}}}}
Our brain serves the purpose of automatically controlling many functions of the body AND it is the means by which our spirit interfaces with the physical world. As has been said, emotion and trauma can affect and even completely alter the "reality" we remember. Some have said that our brain is a computer and remembers everything, but that is only partially true.
You have the right to try to unlock memories that may be important in your healing process. However, if and when those "answers" come, you should not accept them at face value. I would recommend preparing for and seeking the Holy Spirit in determining which are helpful and which are not. I would also recommend that you go with a person who you trust, so that there is no risk of false ideas accidentally or purposely being planted in your brain.
I do not have any clear understanding of this issue; so I'm not going to offer an absolute answer.
However, I do know that the Word instructs us to listen to our parents counsel. You might want to ask your mother to indicate why this is something a Christian should not do. She may or may not have more perspective on this issue than most of the people you will meet on Revelife.
If she cannot offer an answer that is closely rooted in God's word, you may still choose to listen to her counsel, or you may choose a different course (respectfully).
I do, however, agree with a few comments that hypnosis is subjective-- you may not get the answers you're looking for.
I think the question you need to be asking is, "am I prepared to move on with my life if I cannot get the answers I want?"
Personally, I wouldn't' go to counseling or hypnosis therapy if I was not able to answer that question myself.
as a christian theological student, i don't see why there would be a theological problem with hypnosis. i hope you find what you want to know! best.
I agree with and wish to add to LadyGwenivere's comment: God is willing and has provided a method to give us wisdom and knowledge. The method is found in 1st Corinthians 14:
12
So it is with
yourselves; since you are so eager and ambitious to possess spiritual
endowments and manifestations of the [Holy] Spirit, [concentrate on]
striving to excel and to abound [in them] in ways that will build up the
church.
13
Therefore, the person who speaks in an [unknown] tongue should pray [for the power] to interpret and explain what he says.
14
For if I pray in an [unknown] tongue, my spirit [by the Holy Spirit within me] prays, but my mind is unproductive [it bears no fruit and helps nobody].
15
Then what am I to do? I will pray with my spirit [by the Holy
Spirit that is within me], but I will also pray [intelligently] with my
mind and understanding; I will sing with my spirit [by the Holy Spirit
that is within me], but I will sing [intelligently] with my mind and
understanding also.
The key to this is the phrase "I will" and recognizing that Jesus gave us authority to enter His throne of grace boldly.
I realize many people believe praying "in the Spirit," speaking aloud ecstatic utterances and then speaking out in our own native language that which the Spirit of God has revealed to the spirit of the speaker, is as bizarre and scary as hynosis. This is due to ignorance of the scriptures! However, this method is nonetheless prescribed to us in the New Testament by the Apostle Paul under divine inspiration. Believe it or not!
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I would say to stay the hell away from a hypnosis.
When you allow someone to hypnotise you, you are allowing them to open you up and at that point ANYTHING can come in. This is the main reason that Christians are not supposed to do it. We are not supposed to give someone else control over us, (specifically our subconcious/spiritual side) nor are we supposed to do things that involve witch craft in some form (which many christians will attest to the fact that this very much is such a thing)
This is not something that Christians should partake in.
My father did this (was hypnotised) when he was not a believer and had to have serious prayer and counseling regarding the event AFTER becoming a believer.
Also, be aware that there are studies that suggest that any and all memories that are recalled during hypnosis are actually the power of suggestion more than actual memories.
In several cases, people come out remembering things and having horrors that they find out later never actually occured, and now they are memories/stuck there even though they didn't happen. I believe this can be a result of a few things, one it could be because we open ourselves up to things that we can not understand and two, because the person hypnotising doesn't fully understand it himself/herself.
I would stay VERY far away.
Keep on doing things that make you feel better. Keep on praying, keep on persisting, keep on searching for the right kind of person to speak with, etc.
I disagree with those who say it is unethical or dangerous for a Christian to undergo hypnosis. I will preface why I say that by adding that my thoughts on this may come directly from my own experiences and may not have a thing to do with yours.
I did hypnobabies with the birth of my son. It is a "hypnosis" for childbirth program. When I say that to people, they misunderstand completely what hypnosis is. They subconsciously, or even sometimes consciously, picture someone putting you under a spell making you act in ways you normally wouldn't, say things you normally wouldn't etc. They picture a hypnotist having control over you in some way. That is not my experience.
Hypnosis is actually just a state of deep, focused relaxation. The way in which you might get to a supressed memory is because while you are so relaxed, it's possible your walls might come down and truth may spill out. It is not some outside influence directing your mind, implanting ideas, or anything like that. The hypnotist, at the simplest form, is an expert at helping people to relax their minds.
And God tells us to "be still and know."
My experience with hypnosis was very positive. I carry it from day to day and when I need to, I now have to tools to stop myself when I need to "be still" in my mind and in my body.
For those who might misunderstand what the hypnotic state is, it is actually something you find yourself in many times a day and you just don't label it as such. You don't recognize it. Example: have you ever driven somewhere and you just sort of "auto-piloted" your way home, you weren't really choosing this way or that, you just traversed automatically? Have you ever been really into a television show, movie, or even music - and you totally lost track of time? These are both hypnotic states, and a hypnotist is simply someone who can help you to get to that point of peace.
Of course you have to be careful with who you choose.
But to those who might say that hypnosis is dangerous, black magic, from Satan, or that it "opens your mind and spirit up" putting you at risk for the influence of dark things? I would reply that you may be defining hypnosis in an incorrect manner.
BTW, the picture above does not correctly convey hypnosis. It is most likely a picture that connotates negative things to those who misunderstand what hypnosis is.
It is not putting you under a spell.
@apb102088@xanga - The good that might come from knowing is that it is the Truth that sets us free. It appears that this, for the author, causes a good bit of grief and distraction. If that is so, then why is fear of the unknown a better choice? I don't believe that God doesn't want us to know. That doesn't mean the author is guaranteed an answer. But it is clear to me that if he doesn't pursue this, it may be negative for his psyche. Distraction, after all, keeps us from the path God wills us to follow.
I looked into the origination of the picture above, and it is from a site for hypnosis AND black magic etc. THAT is a place I would stay away from. No wonder the pic is the kind that I know further the idea that hypnosis is magical or whatever.
But you CAN absolutely find a truly Christian hypnosis therapist. I know for a fact because my aunt is a very strong believer who is also a family therapist. She has in the past recommended my sister to a friend of hers who offers hypnosis therapy among his other "regular" counselling. Hypnosis and Christianity are not incompatible.
For those who want further information on what other reputable Christians say about this, here is a good resource http://www.hypnosisnetwork.com/articles/a/80/Christianity-and-Hypnosis-Answers-from-an-Academic-and-a-Minister
Hey. I've been through what you've been through. I had the same scared feelings towards my father, as well as all the symptoms of a kid who has been sexually abused (erratic behavior, borderline personality type, eating disorder, etcetcetc) I remembered just enough on my own though to accept that my dad sexually abused and raped me, and, quite frankly, I don't exactly want to remember any more details than I already remember (which is very, very few. Just a few flashes, a few moments, some words, a couple of scenes...)
Also, one thing you said in a comment kind of confuses me... A therapist should NEVER tell you that you were "probably" raped/abused sexually, because that could plant ideas in your head. There was a whole controversy related to false memories of ritual abuse back in the 90's or something. I'm not saying that is you, but it's unethical for a practitioner to suggest those things. I had one psychologist suggest that to me once, and despite that triggering one of my flashbacks, I still told her I'd never been abused.
You may just want to go on your gut with this whole situation. One time my mom asked me point blank if I was ever raped and in my head I answered "Yes by my own dad" but I told her no, and yelled at myself internally for being a crazy person. I wasn't crazy. He really did rape me (and I have physical proof in the form of an STD- lucky me.) Perhaps when you start accepting that he hurt you, you may naturally get some answers in the form of flashbacks. Flashbacks are extremely unpleasant. There is a reason we can't remember these things!!! We would have like, gone insane, at the time because we were too emotionally and cognitively immature to understand or cope with what was happening to us.
I hope this helps.
Hypnosis is dangerous because a hypnotist can plant ideas in your head as false memories that never really happened. They can screw you up far worse than you were when you went in. Haven't you seen all the comedy shows where a person is forever barking like a dog at the sound of a bell? Well take that sitcom version and apply it to your really important brain areas where memories are everything in determining your life. If the hypnotist had something against father they could make you believe your father had been a monster. Etc. It is a powerful position and not a safe way to discover your hidden past.
usually your brain represses things for good reasons...
Firstly, hypnosis is only marginally dangerous if the hypnotist purposely tries to plant ideas in your head. If you're seeing a professional hypnotherapist, I can assure with with 99% certainty that won't happen. People don't obtain certification in a medical field with the intention of screwing people up; they do it to help people. As for the 1% uncertainty, you can eliminate this by doing your research and finding a well-reviewed therapist.
Secondly, hypnosis is NOT mind control or manipulation as our society would have us believe. Your conscious mind is like a guard dog that rejects ideas that go against your sense of truth and morality. As the trance goes deeper, that conscious part of your mind is lulled, allowing you to more directly access your subconscious mind, but nothing can ever entirely shut off your conscious mind. It will guard you, even when you're not aware of it.
All hypnosis is self-hypnosis; the hypnotist is simply there to guide you on your path to discovery, and any competent certified hypnotherapist knows this.
Also, can I ask why hypnotist is viewed negatively by Christianity? This doesn't make sense to me, considering that several key developments in hypnosis were discovered and documented by Catholic figures, notably Father Johann Gassner and monk Abbé Faria.
I did not take the time to actually read the other user's comments and so if what I am going to say has been said then ...:)
But anyway, I think that hypnosis is out of the question because it alters the state of one's mind & we are called to be sober-minded. I do not actually know what it is like to have memory loss but of course it is a defense mechanism that guards us from getting even more hurt. To be honest I don't think that you need to go to counseling or that YOU even have to do anything. I think that you need to bring it to Jesus because he is the counselor of all counselors and only He can bring true healing. I think that you should just talk to Him, tell him that one of your desires is to be able to remember the good times from the past and that you need him to help you release forgiveness and blessing to whoever is the source of your trauma.- Although this may seem like it is counterproductive I can say that it has helped my life a lot. Forgiveness is not about the other person it is about us and breaking any bonds that hold us linked to the one we have not forgiven. The Lord wants to give you the desires of your heart. So, just release forgiveness and be freed :)@strazD - I guess to also add on to what you said - I know that you really want answers as to what happened but I think that perhaps the Lord took away those painful memories for a reason (i.e. the "defense mechanism"). I once was told what is more important to you... finding answers or finding the Lord? - Once again, I would say you just ask the Lord to help you release forgiveness and once you do, you'll probably start getting the good memories back.
@sarahsmurfette@xanga -
I would absolutely love to speak to you more about your birth experience!
I fully intend to have a hypnobirth for my next baby.
Thank you for sharing your information. I'll check out the link for sure.
@arsenic_and_red_lace@xanga - I loved my experience with the Hypnobabies program. I did the home study since there were no classes anywhere near my home. Would you like to know more via private messaging? I love talking about my birth experience! It was so different from my other birth.
@sarahsmurfette@xanga - That would be great!
I'm going to go to your page and add you as a friend etc
=)
Thanks for being willing to share your story! I'll share mine as well (not dramatic and no hypnosis.... boo... lol)