Friday, 12 August 2011

  • Sins We Don't Realize Are Sins

    ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.'
    That also means that spending too much time on things like computer, video games, and TV is a sin. (Time just really flies by fast for me when I'm on these things.)

    FOUR: 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.'
    Working heavily on Sundays is not permitted. He rested on the 7th day, so you working on that day is like you trying to be stronger than Him. That's why the 3 six's is bad because the number for God is 3 and the man is 6 and that's man becoming like god. (Can you believe that I learned that from my atheist friend? She likes to look up these sort of things. And come on people we all need a break.)

    FIVE: 'Honor your father and your mother.'
    Disobeying the rules, laws and regulation is also a sin. That's how we have a gentle society.
    But if the law is contradicting with the 10 commandments then we can bend it.

    SIX: 'You shall not murder.'
    Spreading rumors is also a sin because you're killing their reputation. Euthanasia and abortion are sins obviously. And even suicide. They're all going against nature. I know death is inevitable but it doesn't matter that we get there, it matters how we lived our lives. And oh, things that are self-destructive, too, like drunkeness and drug addiction.

    SEVEN: 'You shall not commit adultery.'
    If a man looks at a woman with lust, that's adultery or vice versa. The priest said that teenagers are okay to have fantasies because we're teenagers hormones are sort of out of control just as long as we don't act on it. Haha I guess I only have a year to think.

    EIGHT: 'You shall not steal.'
    No matter how small. I just hope I remember.

    TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'
    Divorce is obviously one. But I heard that if one is getting physically abused and if one doesn't want to have children then it's permitted. Is this true?

    What do you think about this list?  What are some other things that are sinful that we might forget about?

Comments (80)

  • hapahomemaking@xanga

    I like this post a lot, but there's something I disagree with and that's "Working heavily on Sundays is not permitted." Sunday is not the Sabbath Day, the Sabbath Day was never changed to Sunday. Sabbath is from sunset on Friday to sunset on Saturday. With saying that, I do feel Christians should observe the true Sabbath Day.

  • TheGiantSlayer@xanga
  • too_pretty_to_die@xanga

    the Sabbath is Saturday.  technically, Friday sundown to Saturday sundown.

  • MagisterTom@xanga

    @TheGiantSlayer@xanga - @hapahomemaking@xanga - @too_pretty_to_die@xanga - 

    By the time Revelation was written Christians had been worshiping on Sundays. As Sunday was the day of the resurrection. And, the part about the Sabbath above, the New Testament doesn't really tell us how exactly it is to be obeyed by Christians. What we do know though, is that it is better to do good on the Sabbath than to rest.
    And, while, yes, that is definitely an interpretation of the 666 found in Revelation. I don't see how it fits with the commandment.
    As for the commandment about adultery. Your priest is wrong on this. Lust is lust regardless of if you're a teenager. It is a sin to be repented of, and it should lead you to the cross. The commandments are to reveal your sin and to lead you to Jesus to repent and be forgiven by Jesus sacrifice on your behalf.
    I also don't understand the comment on the commandment to not covet. Divorce is a separate matter. And, the bible doesn't make exclusions for abuse. Though, most Christians do.
  • hapahomemaking@xanga

    @MagisterTom@xanga - Sunday was not the day of resurrection. "On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus" (Luke 24:1-3). As you can see, He had already resurrected BEFORE Sunday. Yeshua did not die on "Good Friday" and resurrect on "Easter Sunday" (which by the way is named after the Babylonian goddess of lust & fertility). How does Friday through Sunday add up to "three days and three nights" as it is mentioned multiple times in the Bible? "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth" (Matthew 12:40). And it says very clearly in the Bible how we are supposed to observed, "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shall you labor, and do all your work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD your God: in it you shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger that is within your gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.” Exodus 20:8-11. Yes that is quoted from the Old Testament not the New, but the Old Testament is just as important as the New Testament, we shouldn't just throw it away. Yeshua observed the Sabbath and followed the Torah; Christians strive to be more like Christ, yet they completely ignore the fact that Yeshua followed His Father's instructions ("Torah" means "instructions), he didn't "do away with them" as most believe. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them" (Matthew 5:17).

    Also (this is to the OP), about the "do not covet," I don't understand what divorce has to do with it; when you say "divorce is obviously one" do you mean divorce can be caused by this sin? Then yes, I agree. The commandment means do not look at someone else's stuff or life and wish it was yours, basically don't have that "grass is greener on the other side" mentality. Of course this could lead to divorce if you continue to covet rather than appreciating what Yahweh has given you. And to your question about divorce, "But I heard that if one is getting physically abused and if one doesn't want to have children then it's permitted. Is this true?" no those things are not scriptural.

  • MagisterTom@xanga

    @hapahomemaking@xanga - Are you Jehovah's Witness, or Seventh Day Adventist? (Both are cults btw) Your beliefs seem like it. As for the three days, Jews counted days differently. Friday night is one day, Saturday is day two, and Sunday morning is day 3. Yes, we would call that two days, but to them a day begins with what we would call the night before, and a partial day is considered a day.

  • hapahomemaking@xanga

    @MagisterTom@xanga - No, I am neither of those denominations nor have I ever been. I read the Scriptures and do my research rather than blindly believing what a pastor preaches. I know that days start at sundown; Thursday sundown to Friday sundown is the sixth day of the week, Friday sundown to Saturday sundown is the Sabbath day, and then Saturday sundown to Sunday sundown is the first day of the week. The fact that the tomb was empty early morning on the first day of the week means He did not resurrect on Sunday, He resurrected before that.

  • MagisterTom@xanga
  • hapahomemaking@xanga

    @MagisterTom@xanga - Oh yes, follow the masses and don't think for yourself, good advice. Most people that attend church don't even read their Holy Text! But I should conform to their beliefs? Conform to beliefs that are completely unscriptural? Well, thanks for the recommendation, but I'd rather have a more meaningful relationship with The Father than that. And here's something I recommend for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTx5tjNQEvw&feature=player embedded I know it's long, but it's an important and enlightening message that I encourage all Christians to watch. Yah bless.

  • ZombieMom_Speaks@xanga

    When I was a christian it was pretty much understood that anything that brings joy outside of church was the source of some sin or other.

    Why would any god give his creations life then not allow them to find any joy in it? Some of us have so much stress in our lives and any little break from that seems infinitely wonderful.

  • TheyCallMePaulNow@xanga

    @hapahomemaking@xanga - I have a question for you then. If we are to keep the Sabbath day holy, how are we to do so? Even Christ performed miracles on the Sabbath. When does it become legalistic as the pharisees? Example: working in the health field or being a pilot on the Sabbath.

  • hapahomemaking@xanga

    @TheyCallMePaulNow@xanga - That's a great question that I wondered too. The initial problem I had with the Sabbath was caused by the countless manmade traditions; it's hard to swift through to the Truth. Yeshua never rebelled against the Torah, He rebelled against the Rabbinical law (AKA manmade law). My ancestors on my mom's side were Orthodox Jews and they were super intense about the Sabbath; they would turn all the lights on in the house on Friday so that the house would be lit on the Sabbath because turning a light switch on to them was considered "work" so you couldn't turn a light on during the Sabbath. You can't press any buttons on the Sabbath Day according to them. They would also even have single sheets for toilet paper because ripping paper is considered "work." No driving cars, no cooking, no picking up a shirt to throw it in the laundry basket, nothing. But none of these things are scriptural, it's just Rabbinical manmade laws. I questioned, is this really how the Sabbath Day is to be observed? It seems like such a burden! I couldn't find much support for this; the closest I found was in Exodus 35:3 it says "Do not light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day," but back then lighting a fire was a lot more work than just simply lifting a light switch or flicking a lighter. I see their intentions, but they're missing the point and making the Sabbath day stressful when it's supposed to be a day of rest and shalom. By Yeshua performing miracles on the Sabbath, He emphasized that working for His purpose is never breaking the Sabbath. Therefore I see nothing wrong in doing good deeds on the Sabbath, evangelizing, donating, conversing with others about Yah's word, etc. What I personally do on the Sabbath is set this time apart to pray and thank my Creator; to really reflect/meditate on what He's doing in my life, what He wants of me, and study the Scriptures. It's hard to make time in our days to really listen to what Yahweh is trying to tell you/guide you toward when we live in such a hectic and distracting world. This is why I believe Yahweh created the Sabbath Day, to allow us to take a step back and reflect. On the Sabbath, I usually stay home, I don't go to work, I don't cook or do chores (have it done before Friday sundown), and I don't do anything stressful. Rabbinical laws is what made the Torah a burden, but it shouldn't be. Yahweh wants the best for His children, He doesn't make these laws up to annoy you, they are to benefit you. Here's a good article that explains more about how Yeshua and His disciples never ignored the Sabbath/Torah: http://www.baruch-hashem.com/shabbat.html

  • bekkabrutality@xanga

    Divorce is obviously one. But I heard that if one is getting physically
    abused and if one doesn't want to have children then it's permitted.

    Sickening.  So the only time you may get divorced is if your husband is beating you and you have no children?  What is the man is beating his wife, and they have children?  What is he is abusing his kids mentally, physically, sexually?  What if your wife is doing those things?

    What is one of the spouses is bringing other lovers into the home?  Or how about endangering the children in some way?

    Are you supposed to turn a blind eye to those things and stay within the confines of the marriage because of a vow, even when the well-being and lives of the family are at stake?

    WTF.

  • hapahomemaking@xanga

    @bekkabrutality@xanga - What the OP said was not scriptural, there are actually no exceptions that would make divorce acceptable according to the Torah (The Torah is Yahweh's instructions for us and how we should live, though not one single person in history besides Yeshua the Messiah has ever been able to follow the Torah 100% lol). Of course abuse and adultery are also not acceptable in Our Creator's eyes; in fact, the reason that there are no exceptions that make divorce acceptable is because there is no excuse for any behavior (such as abuse, adultery, coveting, etc.) that would lead to divorce in the first place.

  • bekkabrutality@xanga

    @hapahomemaking@xanga - I don't really care what the scripture says.  The fact that this kind of spew can come from someone is sickening, no matter where they draw their inspiration.

  • hapahomemaking@xanga

    @bekkabrutality@xanga - Okay, I just wanted to make sure you knew that kind of mentality comes from man-made doctrine with no Biblical support.

  • music_of_the_heart08@xanga

    Girls dressing immodestly in order to get attention from men (I'm guilty of this, and I'm sure a lot of women are), spending more time thinking about your boyfriend than God, any harboring feelings of malice or jealousy, the list could go on...basically anything that takes you away from Christ. 


    Do everything for His glory! 
  • MagisterTom@xanga

    @ZombieMom_Speaks@xanga - Not heard that taught. But, either way, that teaching wouldn't be correct. God should be our primary source of joy, but there isn't anything wrong with having fun doing stuff or getting enjoyment from other things. So long as those things aren't sinful in and of themselves, and they don't take the place of God in our lives.


    @bekkabrutality@xanga - I don't know where the OP got those ideas from. The bible doesn't make an exception for abuse, but only for adultery. However, most Christians and pastors, see abuse as reason to divorce. Though, if possible, I would suggest separation for a time to see if he is willing to get serious counseling and willing to fix what is going on if possible first. That would of course depend on the situation though.
  • bekkabrutality@xanga

    @MagisterTom@xanga - I don't think I could stay married to someone who sexually abuses children.  And having been in a physically abusive relationship in the past, I can for sure say that I wouldn't wait for him "to get help."

    But then, I'm not Christian and while I absolutely take my pending marriage vow seriously, it's not the same.

  • mtngirlsouth@xanga

    @MagisterTom@xanga - About divorce: 


    Matthew 19:9

    And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

    1 Corinthians 7:15
    But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

    1 Timothy 5:8
    But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.


    My ex did all three of those things, he cheated, he left me, and he did not provide for us. Most of the time, an abuser is guilty of at least one of these three also. 
  • tribong_upos@xanga

    Great post, Faye. Admiring other people is indeed a form of idolatry, and we see that often especially for Hollywood stars and good looking people.

  • MagisterTom@xanga

    @mtngirlsouth@xanga - I meant for the believer to initiate the divorce. But, yes, I would agree that it is likely the person would do all three.

  • MagisterTom@xanga

    @bekkabrutality@xanga - As I said, it depends on the situation. And, when I said to wait for them to get help, I said to separate during that, so the abuse wouldn't be ongoing.

  • bekkabrutality@xanga

    @MagisterTom@xanga - I know you said to separate.  Clearly you've never suffered in an abusive relationship.  I was with a man who beat me and raped me; I'm sorry but no matter how reformed he may say he is, husband or not, I'm not waiting around for someone who is capable of that.  For you to suggest such a thing is heartless, and speaks to the fact that you know nothing of being abused like that.

  • MagisterTom@xanga

    @bekkabrutality@xanga - As I said, and I will repeat, it depends on the situation. I didn't say in all situations to separate and wait, I said it depends on the situation.

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