Friday, 08 April 2011

  • Living Without Existence

    My boyfriend and I have found another show we enjoyed watching recently, Mentalist. That show is full of a lot of different things but at the same time, it can be rather predictable. We could solve the case long before the show could finish and figure out the answer. Maybe it is from plenty of practice we have seen from other shows relating or the show was too obvious.

    Whatever the case is, we still enjoy watching it. 

    One thing about the show has struck a nerve in me. Last night, when Patrick Jane made the statement there is no life after death, Van Pelt attacked him with her opinion that there has to be hope for life after death. Because imagine, what about his wife and daughter that passed away. How if they are right besides him, screaming for him to hear them but he couldn't, because he refused to believe there is any existence in afterward.

    Then it brought me into having a conversation with my boyfriend about God. How it is sad to imagine people kept on living after the loss of someone in their lives, believing they no longer exist except in memories. Joshua began to explain his fear of the possibility that there is no God and we do ease to non-exist, it made me think that maybe after all, God may be only a part of our imaginations.

    But mind you, I keep an open mind about it. 

    I have grown to believe in God and will continue in doing so. But however, it does not prevent me from thinking of the possibilities. 

    This morning I woke up with that conversation stuck in my head. How do we really exist? What made us keep going if there is no point of thereafter? How can one person to find purpose when they knew this is the only life to live? Isn't it depressing to think that is all we have, that is all we are? This is it, live life to the fullest, what is the point? Sure okay, I can get that it fulfills ourselves to living the day to the fullest, but where the accomplishment coming from?

    I hate to think that if my children died before it was my time, that I would never see them again. I hate to imagine those people I have come to know in my lifetime, are no longer any part of my life and still stands to that point when we die. 

    Heaven does sounds like a better place to imagine existing after death. Because we get to live again and continue on seeing our loved ones. 

    Without trying to get into deeper discussion of Bible to prove Heaven and God and from atheists, it does make me wonder about atheists beliefs. How is it they found the willpower to live with the knowledge or belief that "this is it, nothing more"? 

    And I will have to say, I give atheists credit. They probably actually found a lot to live for, putting it all into this world rather than to think about thereafter. 

    One thing I remember clearly when I started putting faith in God, I chose to be wrong about His existence and wasted my life on something that never mattered than to chose in believing He didn't and face the wrath after death. Because, Heaven does sounds like a perfect place to settle in. To see families again? Yea. To see friends again? Great. To have all the things that you loved continue in Heaven, wow. 

    Like my dog who grew up with me from the time I was three months old for 15 years. It would be great to see him again. My classmate who died when we were 16 from heart failure, it is nice to think that even her body remains here on earth that turned into nothingness but her spirit is still alive and I will see her again. That is a wonderful thought to have. 

    Rather to think, they no longer exist. No longer worth knowing we will see each other again.

    I also wonder, why do people chose to believe this is the only life we have? And how is it that they find any purpose to live? Why not believe in something better and greater than ourselves? 

Comments (8)

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  • too_pretty_to_die@xanga

    as an agnostic, i make my life worth living.  i just don't understand why the thought of an afterlife makes this life MORE worth living.  if you really believe in Heaven, why not just kill yourself and get to the good parts?  i prefer to see this life as something other than a cross between a test and a waiting room.  for me, the thought of an afterlife cheapens this life even more, because then you realize that there are some people completely unwilling to invest everything they have in this world.  it just makes me sad.  how many people led half-assed lives because they just wanted to get into Heaven?  imagine all the wonderful things that could have happened. 

    either way, i want to live a life i can be proud of.  i try my best. 

    and yes, it makes me sad to think i'll never see some family members that have passed away, or to anticipate losing loved ones who are still with me.  but i don't feel the need to cling to some beliefs for comfort. 

  • anonymous

    You ever hear those sayings, "This is the only life you have, so live it to the fullest"?

    I am an atheist, and I believe this to be true.

    Yes, it does seem sad that we are going to die one day and not have an afterlife, but what's important are the memories we leave behind with the people we love.

    I am never going to live just for a reward, then that's not truly living at all; that's called sucking up.

    I believe this is the life we have because that is the truth. I am not going to imagine there is something greater beyond death because I fear death. No, because I know death is coming I am going to live my life as happy and as successful as I can. My purpose? To make the world a littler better because of my passion to teach.

    You can have purpose knowing that you will die. Why do people work so hard to get a good job and have a family? It's not to please God. it's to be happy and leave memories of yourself behind.

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  • Pcgecko85@xanga

    remember the time before you were born? no? well that's what it's like to die.  Enjoy life, make memories, impact people in a positive way.  That's how you enjoy life! no after life needed.

  • NeverLoseHope11@xanga

    Why does it matter if you impact people in a positive way, or leave the world "a little better"?  If there is no life after death, then it doesn't matter to you, or anyone for that matter.  The person who lives life to the fullest by indulging every selfish desire at the expense of others is just as right as the person who lives life in a selfless manner to better this world for others.

    Maybe it's better to lives selfless lives to make a positive difference.  But in a world without God, without the perfect Love and judgment after this life, then there is no framework to prevent anyone from "living their life to the fullest" whatever way they see fit.  Why can't a CEO defraud millions of other people's life savings so he can enjoy the pleasures of this life?  There's no existence after death anyway, so what does it matter to him or his victims?  There is something in us that says this result is not right.  There must be something more than just living our lives the way we see fit.
    God made us with a desire for eternity, for deep relationship.  Many people who do not believe in God do good things because they think they will leave some lasting legacy behind.  It is a way to continue to "exist" after death in the minds of their loved ones.  Christians look to God and heaven, but those who don't believe are also seeking some form of life after death--in the form of memories in their loved ones.  This is still a form of belief, believing that your life still has meaning even after you are gone.  In that way, we are not much different.  But the belief of no existence is more futile in my mind.  Within 3 generations, chances are that no one will even remember your name or care.  And why does it matter whether the world goes to pot or people get better?  If you don't exist, then why bother working towards it?  Why is it bad if the human race becomes extinct?  No one would care, because no one exists.
    My heart yearns for deep relationship and eternity.  And I would rather live my life with this Hope, that there is meaning, that there is a Maker who Loves and cares and will live with me for eternity, in the presence of all His other children whom I love.  He gives me reason to find Joy in the midst of despair and a reason to treat my neighbor well because good and evil do have meaning, and what we do in this life does have an impact on eternity.

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  • cute_sushi@xanga

    Because, Heaven does sounds like a perfect place to settle in. To see families again? Yea. To see friends again? Great. To have all the things that you loved continue in Heaven, wow. 


    Well, Heaven (according to the Bible) is a place where we will be with God, and a restoration of things, so it's not just about being happy and about humans. And according to Jesus, there is no marriage in Heaven, so your husband/wife won't be your husband/wife, haha.

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