Thursday, 24 March 2011
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Does Scripture Support Smoking Pot?
By Matthew at Jesus Needs New PR
Well… one Facebook group says yes. The group Every Seed Bearing Plant suggests that Genesis 1:29 offer biblical support for the extracurricular use of marijuana.“And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.” Genesis 1:29.
The group’s mission is simple: Establishing the God connection to the Marijuana, Poppy and Coca plant, and why it is against God’s law to make any plant illegal.
You can read more about this group’s high agenda here.
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@Liquid_Pain_523@xanga - You don't have to live in urban areas where children are shot by bullets because there was a fight because teenagers from the suburbs decided to rip off people while selling drugs. I work near a Methadon clinic where the addicts are breaking into people's cars and having knife fights on the street so if drugs would be legalized then we might see more of that and I've known people on drugs who are losing their eyesight. It is also difficult to talk to people when the drug is talking and they have no self control.
I don't think that we should make use of anything (including wine) that can cause our personalities to change. Some people just relax and 'chill out' when smoking pot but others become paranoid and violent....
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@dRebeccab@xanga - I had a relative that literally fried his brain on drugs and ended up in the State Hospital. My other relative smoked one time and she was never the same emotionally. So to know people who were once normal who went to shambles and to hear that smoking is normal is a lie.
All you have to do is look at pictures of people before and after doing drugs. They look like the people at the Methadon clinic. There has been a police car there full time because of all the problems. They use to get off the bus and run across traffic in front of other cars in order to get their Methadon and a co-worker who lived with people who had that lifestyle said they get their Methadon to shoot up later. We had to get extra locks on our building because the people from the Methadon clinic were wondering ouround our building despite the cameras. They were on the sixth floor and their excuse was they lost their bus ticket and were looking for it when in truth they need money because they are addicted to drugs.
@Chuckt - Not all drugs are equal. Do you even know the difference between meth and marijuana? It's quite a big difference.
Marijuana should be legalized, at the very least, for medicinal purposes. Did you know cocaine is legal for medical purposes? And what about morphine (an opiate - think heroin) being legal for medical purposes? I've had morphine in an IV in the ER more than once for severe pain. I am slowly losing my sight due to diabetic retinopathy. This could be prevented if it were legal to use the active ingredient in marijuana medically, but since it's not legal I will eventually, unnecessarily, go blind. Is that reasonable? I don't think so.
I doubt God would want the potheads to use it to get high, destroy brain cells, waist their life, and distract themselves from the pains of life... Yeah, doubtful.
Marijuana is addictive & will hurt you. Those who don't think so, research it. I did. I did a paper over it for Psychology. Got an A. Smoking a bong = worse than smoking cigarrets (although that is completely terrible, too). A bong doesn't have a filter, so all that tar & gross chemicals goes straight inside you. If I were you, I'd buy a ticket to Reality, USA.
@When_Will_I_Sing_Again@xanga - Hahahaha.
Wow, how did I end up here? I'm going to leave before I get in trouble.
@wizexel22@xanga - *snort*
Err, yeah, that's a good one. Just another group of people trying to justify everything they want to do, regardless of what God really says about it. I mean, isn't marijuana -for a lot of people- just another substitute for God in their lives? Just another way to feel good temporarily, while the whole world quite literally goes to hell around you? Man, I hate when people do stuff like this...if they're going to just do what they want to no matter what, then they could at least admit that they're just giving in to their temptations and desires and not even try to bring God into it at all. That's heading into dangerous waters, if you ask me.
@Melissa___Dawn@xanga - "Marijuana impacts the brain in significant ways and a new study has shown that marijuana addiction causes more than a 40 percent increase in the development of psychosis. Those who start using during the teenage years suffer higher rates of both depression and anxiety in early adulthood. Across age brackets, those who use marijuana have higher rates of panic attacks and suicidal thinking than non-users. For those individuals with an existing mental diagnosis, marijuana abuse can worsen psychotic symptoms (especially for those with schizophrenia)."
http://rehab-international.org/marijuana-addiction/dependence-risks
My stepsister was schizophrenic after trying pot. She heard voices, could stay awake for 10 days or more and if that happens then the person can die because the body needs rest, she developed Lymphoma which is cancer of the lymph system as pot has four times the tar as cigarettes. She was suicidal and heard voices like other people who try drugs often do and it started right after she smoked pot.
I knew another person who cut off their arm in a meat grinder from doing "lesser" drugs.
“Once you do become dependent, it’s difficult to stop,” Haney says. “People who are seeking treatment relapse at rates as high as they are for cocaine, heroin and alcohol.”
Treating marijuana dependence is especially difficult when users don’t believe they have a problem, says Gregory Brigham, PhD, a clinical psychologist at Maryhaven, a substance abuse and mental health treatment center in Columbus, Ohio.
http://www.apa.org/monitor/2010/06/marijuana.aspx
@Chuckt - Studies have not conclusively proven that marijuana causes schizophrenia. As a matter of fact, scientific studies have only concluded that a person already predisposed to schizophrenia has an increased risk of triggering it sooner by smoking marijuana under the age of 18. After age 18 that risk drops significantly. I am not advocating legalizing marijuana for minors - it should be regulated like alcohol and available to those 21 and older. Your stepsister most likely already was schizophrenic, and if not she certainly was genetically predisposed to schizophrenia. And I sincerely doubt that simply TRYING marijuana caused your stepsister to develop lymphoma. In fact, I just searched out causes of lymphoma and after checking several medical and non-medical sites not one specifically listed marijuana, closest to that would be "environmental risks; i.e. herbicides, pesticides and benzene", benzene does exist in marijuana and also in cigarettes. Studies have shown significantly higher levels of benzene in cigarette smokers than in marijuana smokers. Did you stepsister happen to smoke cigarettes as well?
As for the person who cut off their arm in a meat grinder, alcohol can cause that kind of stupidity and it's legal without even having any medical benefits to go along with it. My brother was killed by a drunk driver. I do think that laws and sentences should be a lot tougher on drunk drivers, but I hardly think that all alcohol needs to be made illegal and that I shouldn't be allowed to drink an occasional beer because someone else is an idiot and doesn't know when to stop.
So even though marijuana will prevent me from going blind, I shouldn't be allowed to have it because a small percentage of already genetically predisposed people will have their inevitable schizophrenia triggered by using marijuana? That's ridiculous. It should at least be made legal for medical use.
@PseudoEuphoric@xanga - "Now, if marijuana was as bad as you think, why would her doctor give her a card to legally buy and grow marijuana?"
I've been sick for ten years and my doctor can't figure out what is wrong with me so you look at doctors as if they are the final answer?
The answer to your question is Dr. Jack Kevorkian. Just because a doctor is an egg head and can memorize enough to get through medical school doesn't mean they are respected in the medical community and it doesn't mean they have morals. The second answer to your question which I quoted is that there are plenty of doctors with malpractice suits which is the reason that their insurance to practice is so high. My former employer had to not discriminate and had to allow for alternate therapies in workman's comp insurance but because he is a lawyer and has friends who are lawyers, he said you can have access to alternate therapies as long as it is in their list of providers. One of my other relatives went to another doctor for fertility treatments and she said all they did was take her money. I can tell you that I went to one doctor over 22 times and they don't have a problem with taking your money even though they aren't helping.
There are 400 chemicals in Marijuana. Can you name them and give me their chemical elements?
Getting drunk was sinful, although drinking wine was pretty standard. Following those lines, pot wouldn't be okay because you only smoke pot to become stoned.
@Ancient_Scribe@xanga - You obviously have never smoked marijuana. (Not that this is a bad thing) But marijuana isn't much less debilitating and dangerous than alcohol.
I think it is wrong to see all these judgments from people who have never even tried marijuana or know what it is about. Many people actually experience quite spiritual highs!
@Chuckt - Thats why we should legalize. You could buy it in a store and wouldn't have unnecessary violence, we could use the money we've been using on criminalization to HELP the addicts.
@needtobreathe22@xanga - Wow. Just because it is written doesnt make it correct. Many studies, on controversial topics, are used to come to controversial ends WITHOUT justification. Many studies wrongfully use cause and effect and extend it beyond the sample size.
I am sorry, but you are very misinformed.
@hisprincess_selah@xanga - Okay well remember when slavery was legal and women couldnt vote? These are OUR laws, we need to change and update them to become more moral and stand up for what we believe. You can't just give up because it is illegal, this is OUR country.
@undeclared1@xanga - when laws oppose God, yes.
However.. I don't believe He's greatly grieved by our lack of smoking up. Nor that smoking up is righteous in most situations, especially these days.
I have smoked weed. And loved it. But when I'm honest, have to admit that .. that at least the reasons I had and way I went about it and -lol, facts it was illegal and I did while skipping school, were sinful.
@Chuckt - Yeah, but people can be addicted to anything. If anything, some pot might calm some of those people down XD. I don't really believe legalizing drugs would increase the addiction rate. Just look at what happened during the days of prohibition of alcohol. If anything, making the drugs illegal just makes them less safe.
@undeclared1@xanga - Does one need to try each and every thing to decide whether or not a thing is wrong? Or is the path to holiness one of choosing the lesser of two poor choices? This is not to condemn those who have made bad choices or even to uphold myself as a saint (heavens no! I'm as much a sinner as anyone!). All this to say that even if marijuana is less harmful than other drugs, the fact of the matter is that when one is under its influence, one is less able to live a holy life. It may provide a sensation that seems like a "spiritual high," but holiness is not about feeling; rather it is about relationship. If I were high I would not be able to enter into that relationship with God as I can when I am of a sober mind. Likewise I cannot treat and love others as I ought to when I am in an altered state. Therefore I should avoid such things altogether for the sake of holiness, even if it subjects me to ridicule. I would rather risk missing out on a pleasurable experience than risk discarding even a single opportunity to grow in holiness!
Technically, our government made marijuana illegal, not God. However, just because God put something on our earth, doesn't mean its good for us. He gave us arsenic, are we supposed to eat that? And there are so many plants that are poisonous that God put on our earth and we'll never know why they're here. All we know is that some things God gave us for nutritional purpose and some things are here for other reasons. I, for one, don't think God wants us getting high off of His creation.
I would say no & I would compare it to the way scripture treats getting drunk (which is bad), because it alters your mind & your body & leaves you out of control. Also, it is illegal, & the Bible says in the book of Romans I believe to obey authority.
@ProudToBeAChristianFruitcake@xanga - nettles aren't poisonous and can be eaten. They've got acidic stings, so even though they sting, they're not poisonous. I've had nettle soup before! It wasn't very nice though...haha.
@pika_whoosh@xanga - Rubbing against stinging nettle with bare skin, can cause a rash similar to that of poison ivy. That sounds poisonous to me. Nettle soup, while made from the stinging nettle plant, is made from the non poisonous inside part of the plant. Only touching the outside of the plant will cause a reaction.
I do recall that the text in question was given to man before the Fall and before Sin. Sin perverted and distorted everything. What used to be good became flawed and marked with failure and disease. Pretty sure all plants were good before the Fall of man screwed us all over. Now that there is Sin, the plant is harmful. End of story.
@CecilliaMarie@xanga - So your point is absolutely irrelevant to the post. And I suppose if it were "the law" to deny the existance of God or mass murder thousands of people (Holocaust), that'd be okay, because it's "the law"? No, that would be considered sinful, despite it being "the law" of that particular land. I understand those examples may be more extreme, but it's the idea of it...
Regardless, this post is about whether or not it should be legal. Not whether or not people should smoke it because it's against the law.
And to everybody else, I suggest some unbiased research. You all seem a little uneducated.
How many of you smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol? Hm?
@Greenguff@xanga - Name everything harmful about the plant.
1.2.3. GO!