Saturday, 06 November 2010
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Should Christians Vote?
I have been on a journey in the last several years when it comes to voting. I voted in the 2004 elections. I was heavily researched a year before the 2008 elections and ready to let my vote count. After wrestling it out, I decided to obey my conscience and abstain from voting that year. I haven't voted since. I'm not against voting and I've been trying to figure out whether or not I'm comfortable voting again. I've yet to be able to formulate how a Christian can best interact in the United States when it comes to voting. It's a complicated issue to be sure. I believe voting is a very significant act so I do not take it lightly (for the sake of Christ and of the U.S.). It's vital to be Christian before being American. I often see Christians committing idolatry with their political involvement and given the history of the Church/Israel it is best for us to be very intentional about how we approach our interactions with the customs of a specific nation. After all, we're aliens in a foreign land who belong to a kingdom that is not of this world.
It's hard to figure out how to react to the U.S. system as a Christian. How do I best glorify God here? How do I react to something that is so different from the authorities in scripture? How much can I involve myself with this nation without getting in too deep? As a Christian, is it best for me to give my vote in a society that asks for it in matters of national or regional matters? I don't know.
What do you think? As a Christian, do you vote? Why or why not? How does your discipleship affect or guide your political involvement? Do you vote for issues but not people or vise versa? How do the two differ in your mind? What resources would you recommend to people like me who are wrestling with this issue?
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I am at a total loss regarding this. Don't Christians ( I am not a Christia, BTW, so I may have this wrong) want to create a better world in the hear and now? I don't understand how you don't feel a mandate to vote and how that gives you the power to make positive changes (don't take that as overly sentimental...I mearily think that if you don't vote, you're essentially giving up on an important way (not the ONLY way) of making this world a better place).
I've never voted and probably never will. I don't care for politics and think there's way too many secrets in the government. I'm not even convinced that our votes truly matter. Unless we count them ourselves, who are we relying on to tell us the answers? That all goes on behind the scenes. I mean seriously, how do we REALLY know our votes are making any difference? What's to stop the government from messing with that stuff? Us, the little people? Of course not. It's all too suspicious to me.
I recently read something about the Christians pulling into their own little world and pulling out of the secular world. Seems there is a correlation between Christians creating their own world (Christian cafe's and bookstores) and the rest of the world picking up speed in their race away from God and the church. If we do not have an infulence on the world around us, what does that leave? Of course I'm going to vote, and so should you. Yes, I understand that we are sometimes left to pick between the lesser of two evils, but at least we've done *something*.
You can't bring heaven to earth by voting. One has to be the change he is willing to bring.
"It's vital to be Christian before being American"
America is not a theocracy. Get out of the 1800s.
ABSOLUTELY a Christian should vote. If not, Christians have no say in the government. It is the responsibility of the American people to limit the government. Do you like what the government is doing? Do you think it's against God? If the answer to EITHER is "no" the ONLY way to change that is to vote. That's how our country works.
@erotyka@xanga - You misunderstand that phrase, I think. He is not saying that in order to be an American you must first be Christian. Rather, he is saying that her loyalty lies with his faith and THEN to his country. This means that if the two disagree he will go with the choice which supports his faith instead of the choice that supports his country. (ie. If he believes abortion is immoral and against God, but America says it is moral and a woman's right, he will not go with the will of the majority and will (if he was voting, obviously) fight to change the conviction of the country to the conviction of his faith because his loyalty lies there first. He is saying that he lets his faith inform his politics rather than letting his politics inform his faith.@sempermedusa@xanga - I don't think this is really even worth arguing. I now remember why I stayed away from revelife.
@NotWhereIThought@xanga -Yes and no. I feel though, that I must preface this by saying that I DO agree with you. The only reason I have not yet voted is because I am 17, and I fully intend on voting in the next election. The Christian focus is really not on the "here and now" but on the future. It is on the new Heaven and the new Earth. The focus is on hope and love. In very basic terms (because I really don't have the time to go into a full explanation) we live in a fallen world. All of us do/think bad things. It's inevitable, and it is our human nature. That is not to say though, that everything bad that happens is our own fault, because we are affected by other people's sins too (ie. a drunk driver gets into a head on collision and kills 10 people, but the drunk driver survives) It is not the other 10 people's fault. So, I may have just gone a little off topic, but the IDEA is that through Jesus we are set free from the ultimate effects of sin (eternal separation from God.) Christianity is not really a religion, but a relationship with God. (I do not speak for the other world religions, because I honestly have not studied them that in depth) It is about restoring that relationship, like, as we say having a father to help us deal with life. It's like having someone to help us and guide us. It's being loved. As a result of that love, we ought to want to show that love to other people. This is where you get the idea of the here and now. It's where all the ministries that help people come from. It's the missionaries giving medical attention to children in Africa and the people who help our children and marriages here. It's the overflowing of God's love for us to our fellow man, and it is our duty to show that love to the world.
Now that I've gone into all that, voting is actually vital to the life of an American Christian. As a Christian it is our responsibility to love our fellow man. As an American it is our duty to limit the government (because WE as American citizens ARE the government) I'm not sure how to best articulate this, but as Christians, we need to have a say in the government to fulfill the Christian duty of loving our fellow man and to make sure that it doesn't cross boundaries that are simply unacceptable. If this sounds chopping I'm very sorry. I am tired. But yeah, this is a lot of words to say that you are essentially correct.@erotyka@xanga - I really like your hair.
@SirNickDon@xanga - Thankyou. :)
I did an indepth study on this very issue you can read it here: http://www.kingshouse.org/voting.htm
God bless!
Why wouldn't we vote? I guess I don't really understand what exactly it is that is stopping you from voting. I think that voting is part of my duty as a citizen and a person who is able to. I also think that it's stupid to complain about what you permit, so if you're not going to vote, you shouldn't talk bad about any of the politicians you didn't bother voting against (or for). Also, I personally feel like I owe it to a lot of people who fought for my right to vote (as an American, a woman, and a black person, I have a war and two movements to thank for the fact that I can even go to the polls at all), and I would be remiss if I disrespected their sacrifices by choosing not to vote.
Lastly, we are the vessels through which God brings His will to pass on the earth. If we don't, who will?
@erotyka@xanga - I would never claim America is a theocracy nor would I want it to be. I'm just saying that a Christian have a higher loyalty to God and his kingdom than whatever country they may live in. And your hair is really cool.
@kpsmom3@xanga - If our goal is to do "*something*" then would you find it sufficient for Christians to put their hands and feet to work and withhold their vote? Are you proposing the notion that one either votes or they forsake their witness to the state? How much of a role does ones conscience play in this issue in your opinion?
@Suhijaquerida - I would say voting is a right more than a duty. Like owning a handgun or having an abortion. This stance comes from Derek Webb in an essay he wrote. Here is a link to it. He also addresses some other points you made. Warning: He disagrees with you.
If you vote, don't vote your "values." This may seem really intolerant of me to say but you never exhibit values by voting to "help the poor" etc. First, these programs often create more poverty AND you are more likely than not voting to take money from someone other than yourself and put it in the pocket of poor people.
Voting is statistically useless also. The costs of researching before you vote is irrational with regards to the power of your individual vote. Public Choice Theorists call this "Rational Ignorance."
I vote only for those who want to reduce the size and scope of government.
http://econindiana.wordpress.com/ Here is a shameless link to my blog. Check it out.. it has a lot of economics and politics in it.
@TheGreatBout@xanga - well to my knowledge, a theocracy is a government based around religion, and if Christians (and any religion, to be honest) vote sheerly on the basis of whatever their holy book says, that's gonna affect who gets into power, and henceforth the way the country is run. That really only applies to the completely nutty religious fanatics though, and then there's the issue of definitions of faith and discrimination... there would be no legal way to stop those with faith people from voting.
Imagine if the 11th commandment was 'Thou must only vote Democrat.' Did I just laugh at my own joke? I DID.
Oh, and thanks! :D
@TheGreatBout@xanga - I read (well, skimmed) the article you mentioned. He has some interesting things to say. He's right that you are at liberty not to vote if you don't agree with everything a candidate and their party stands for. That's great, except that whatever that party stands for is likely going to affect your life in some way (through funding cuts, new laws, etc), so even though your vote may not decide the election, at least you are helping decide who gets to decide what happens to you (on some level). Again, we shouldn't complain about what we permit.
As an American, i don't think you should vote.
Christianity is so deeply rooted in american politics that it stifles the voices of everyone who enjoys thinking for themselves.
Argue if you want, but we all know it's true.
Separation of church and state, my ass.
Yeah we need to vote to keep the most Godly men we can in office! None of them are going to be perfect OF COURSE because who is?! But if every Christian stopped voting, then the crappy baby killing canidates would pretty much always win the presidency! Do you want that? No. I do my research to make sure the man I am voting for has values as close to mine as possible so I can feel good about the person running our country. If you don't vote then you better not complain when some un-godly person that you don't like is president! just sayin..
@Ginny_07@xanga - "godly men"
I'm so offended now and on multiple levels.
I think the phrase "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's" is a perfect way to answer such a question. Church and religion should be separate, in my opinion. I am no longer religious, but when I was, I voted according to the needs of America, not the Christian faith. If you vote according to religion, then you are overlooking the several American citizens that are not affiliated with your same religious code, which may not be the best for those people. Anyway, I guess if you had to vote from a completely Christian standpoint, I think you shouldn't vote. However, if you just take Christian ideals and draw your own opinions from that, then it should be fine. America is all about attempting to represent everyone's beliefs. Melting pot and all.
Hah don't even need to read the article, title said it all. An emphatic no is my answer, since it will be republican and based all on abortion.
@erotyka@xanga - Then why are you here?
@Liz - The headline of the article was far too insane not to click.
I think it's funny that so many politicians say they are christians, yet they don't want to have public health care because that means the taxes will rise.. To me, putting your self, you own greed, over other peoples health is not very christian..
By the way I'm sorry if me English isn't perfect, I'm Danish:)
I am Christian and I vote... there are sins of commission and sins of omission. Also voting has an impact on whether or not pro-life officials are elected.