Thursday, 19 August 2010

  • Death and the Grieving Process: What to Say to Families Whose Loved Ones Were Not Christians

    "...but as servants of God we commend ourselves in every way: by great endurance, in afflictions, hardships, calamities, beatings, imprisonments, riots, labors, sleepless nights, hunger;  by purity, knowledge, patience, kindness, the Holy Spirit, genuine love; by truthful speech, and the power of God..." 2 Corinthians 6:4-7

    Imagine this. You are in line at a viewing at a funeral home. Perhaps it's a high school acquaintance who tragically died too young, or perhaps it's someone in your family you were really close with. Or, maybe it's even a best friend. You wait in line, trying to fight off the tears as the time passes by and the line moves slowly. You look around, recognizing some and not others. You realize just how many people are upset at this person's death. 

    As you approach the casket more closely, you see his/her family beside it, greeting visitors with hugs, kisses, and many many tears. Some people are not crying, but for a lot of them, their faces show they have cried for days and have barely slept. As you get closer to the family and the casket, you find yourself trying to hold back your tears, but it's just too hard. The tears begin to flow. Finally, you approach the person's mother/father. You hug them tight and tell them how sorry you are.

    As a Christian, you know their deceased loved one was not in Christ. There's not a doubt in your mind. This person wanted nothing to do with Christ. Yet you want so desperately to tell his/her family that they're "in a better place." But that's not what the Bible says. But you want to comfort this grieving family who is hurting so deeply. You're torn. What are you supposed to say? What do you do? 

    This is hard to talk about for me. However, I will try, as I have thought about this for months now.

    The above scenario is a position that I found myself in recently. It was the second viewing I remembering going to since I became a Christian. The first viewing was for a highschool friend who I knew loved Jesus. You can still visit her facebook and myspace and you are reminded just how much she loved the Lord. Even though death is so horrible, it's so great to know this girl is in the presence of the Lord and was redeemed by his grace. There's so much comfort in that.

    But the second viewing I went to, the person was not a Christian (I don't want to reveal this person's identity for privacy reasons). I'll simply call him "Joe."

    I had not spoken to Joe in about a year and a half, and my husband hadn't spoken to him in about a year. I had once known Joe very well, and for over a year, we were once very good friends. I wasn't a Christian at the time, but I definitely know God was drawing me closer to himself. I was hearing the Gospel, though not accepting it. Joe read his Bible some and got very convicted at times. He wondered about who God really was and about the truth of the universe. However, Joe was not quick to call himself a Christian. There were "good" days where he said he was, but most of the time, he said he was agnostic and just did not know. He had made a few professions of faith in his life and had even been baptized around age 12 or so. But at the end of the day, he did not know where he stood. Once Joe and I parted ways, he still claimed to be agnostic.

    The life that Joe lived reflected that he was not a child of God. I would hear some of the awful things he was involved in and it would break my heart. However, a friend of ours talked to him once and Joe had a lot of questions about the Lord and had made another profession in Christ. However, just like the parable of the seeds, Joe's love for the Lord soon diminished and died, and he was back to his old lifestyle.

    Well, now Joe is dead.

    His death shook up my husband and I very badly. As soon as I heard, I began to cry. My husband comforted me and I told him, "Joe is in hell. Joe is in hell right now. And will be forever." My husband didn't know what to say, as he was in agreement. We just held each other. Despite such deep and tragic sadness, we kept our eyes on the Lord, recognizing that God, you are still good. You are still holy. And we love you.

    The reality of hell hit home for me. It's easy for us to talk about it and become desynsitized to it. I know I've done it plenty of times. I've heard so many well-meaning Christians tell nonChristians so non chalantly, "If you don't believe in Jesus then you're going to hell." But they say it with the same intensity as  they would say, "Hey I'm going to the grocery store." There's no real realization of just what hell is. No true understanding of how serious the wrath of God is.

    I wanted to beleive that Joe was in heaven. That Joe was saved. But the day before he died, he still claimed to be agnostic. He had not made a profession in Christ. Those who knew him best remember him with funny stories. They say he was funny, intelligent, witty, outgoing, sarcastic, and overall, just fun. But none of his friends once said that the thing they remember most about him...was that he loved Jesus. 

    Yet all over facebook the next few weeks, I see, "RIP Joe. God needed you!" and, "RIP Joe, you are in a better place!" and, "RIP Joe, Jesus needed another angel!" It made me mad for a split second, but that anger was replaced with deep and utter horror and sadness. Most of the people who had those statuses weren't Christians and have no idea what heaven is, who God is, or anything. But some people with those statuses were Christians. I was so appalled. They claim to be Christians, but are saying that a nonChristian is in heaven with Jesus. What in the world? Why would you put that? Why would you lie like that? It must be an attempt to comfort themselves and to comfort others. But friends, that is not what Jesus himself teaches. Nonbelievers will not be in heaven, brothers and sisters. They are, and I say this with tears in my eyes -- in hell.

    Forever.

    As servants of God, we commend ourselves in every way, "by purity, knowledge, patience, kindness, the Holy Spirit, genuine love; by truthful speech, and the power of God..." 2 Corinthians 6:6-7. When a nonbeliever dies, don't feel like you have to say, "I'm sorry for your loss. By the way, they're not in heaven." As the verse says, we are to show patience, kindness, and genuine love! Tell his/her parents that you are so sorry, and that you are praying for them. Most importantly, tell them the GOSPEL! Don't just give them temporary comfort but share with them who is eternally comforting, and that is Jesus Christ! I continue to talk to Joe's mother, and never once have I told her that Joe was in hell, but never once have I even hinted that I think he's in heaven. Rather, I have told her the Gospel and the hope we have in it. Show kindness and love to those who are hurting.

    "By truthful speech". Really meditate on this. Truthful speech. Don't lie to these people, brothers and sisters. Do not, for the sake of someone else's comfort, lie to them and tell them something that the Bible does not teach just so they feel better. In fact, that is the meanest thing you could possibly do. If you make them think that everyone goes to heaven, and they continue in their sin and do not turn to Christ, what do you think is going to happen when they die? Love them enough to be truthful.

    Now, if they were to straight up ask you, "Do you think so-and-so is in heaven?", then by all means, I wouldn't blurt out,"Absolutely not!" Be as kind and loving as possible. Share the gospel. Share the love of God with them.  Just don't tell them something like, "Well God is a god of love!" and leave it at that, letting that imply that God is just kidding when he talks about hell. Friends, God is not kidding. God never lies, as James teaches. Never. It really upset me when I saw Christians with those statuses, because they are straight up lying. They are lying to the world and inaccurately presenting Jesus Christ. This is not what Christ teaches. Even if your intentions are good, a lie is a lie. Please don't just make up who you want Christ to be. 

    I know these people are trying to be sincere and it's because they truly want this person to be in heaven. As do I! I pray I get to heaven and see Joe, and he tells me of how God miraculously saved him before his death. That'd be great! But listen -- heaven is not heaven because of the people there. Heaven won't be more "heavenly" if Joe is there. Heaven is heaven because God is there. And that is enough. It's still hard for me to accept Joe's death. I was thinking about it the other day, and I broke down and just cried out through my tears, "God, you are still holy and you are still good!" As I wept, I could feel the Holy Spirit with me, comforting me, as if to say, "Yes, I am." No matter how hard it hurts, I cannot compromise what my Lord teaches to make myself feel better. 

    In conclusion, Joe's death has made me more passionate about sharing the Gospel with others. Joe's death has made me greater appreciate just what I've been saved from: God's righteous wrath. And most importantly, Joe's death has reminded me that hell is real and that I need not pretend it's no big deal. Remember, the Lord is sovereign, and the Bible teaches that God doesn't owe anyone salvation. In fact, we are ill deserved of salvation. We've earned condemnation, and thus, God isn't mean if Joe is in hell. Like all humans, Joe chose to run from Christ. We all choose, freely, to follow Satan. It's only by God's grace and regeneration of the Holy Spirit that we are brought from death to newness of life. Grace is something God is not required to give, so for me to get angry that God did not save Joe is absurd. However, despite the pain it causes me to think of Joe in hell, I can raise my hands to the Creator and say, "God, you are still holy." When a lost person dies, rejoice in the Gospel, and let it be your catalyst for sharing it with their friends and family. The greatest comfort you can give them is Christ.

    Have you ever had to deal with the death of a friend or family member who was not Christian?  Have you had to console someone who lost a loved one who was not Christian?  What did you say in this situation?  How should others handle the situation when they are inevitably faced with such circumstances?

Comments (12)

  • Megan
    Oh, I'm glad you featured this (she shut down her site for some reason :-/). I don't think in that situation it's necessary to offer anything but condolences and prayers. You DON'T know that they did not come to Christ at the very last minute. Even then, God is infinitely merciful so we just don't get to know. So the best you can do after the fact is prayer and love.
  • PinkMonganese@xanga

    I often attend funerals not for the person who's passed, but in support of the people who are left behind because I loved the person who passed enough to acknowledge that this is what they wouldve wanted most for their loved ones. Nothing can be done for the one that's passed. Compassion in it's deeper meaning "to suffer with"...have compassion for them instead of plotting how you'll preach to them about Christ that day. Your compassion will bring them closer to God than your preaching. To anger at other "Christians" telling "lies about Joe going to heaven" is being judgmental and you may want to consider asking for God how to see more clearly. 

  • too_pretty_to_die@xanga

    "But you want to comfort this grieving family who is hurting so deeply.
    You're torn. What are you supposed to say? What do you do?"

    no offense... but if you really cannot look at a person's life and find meaning without thinking they went to Heaven, i don't think you were really their friend.  they didn't mean less to their family because of their beliefs, and they'll still be missed just as much.  as an agnostic, i've gone to many a Christian funeral.  do i think they're in Heaven?  no, because i don't believe in Heaven.  that doesn't render me incapable of offering comfort.  you just seem very narrow-minded.  if the only way you can personally judge someone is by their religious beliefs, you have some issues. 

    "They say he was funny, intelligent, witty, outgoing, sarcastic, and
    overall, just fun. But none of his friends once said that the thing they
    remember most about him...was that he loved Jesus."

    so?  my grandma loves Jesus... she also thinks homosexuals should be killed, and she didn't want me to go to a certain high school because the principal was black (i went anyway).  loving Jesus really doesn't mean much when it comes to discussing who a person IS.  and yeah, i find it ridiculous that she'll get into Heaven much sooner than some of the most wonderful, kind, intelligent non-Christian people i know.  it's one of the reasons why i'm agnostic.

    "Most of the people who had those statuses weren't Christians and have no
    idea what heaven is, who God is, or anything. But some people with
    those statuses were Christians. I was so appalled. They claim to be
    Christians, but are saying that a nonChristian is in heaven with Jesus.
    What in the world? Why would you put that? Why would you lie like that?"

    the concept of God is not exclusive to Christians.  i have a number of theistic friends who call their deity "God" but really don't believe in a single bit of Christian theology.  i understand that you think all other belief systems are wrong, but you just seem ignorant of them. 

    "It's still hard for me to accept Joe's death."

    i really don't believe you're sincere.  do you simply acknowledge what you see as God's judgment, or you do actually agree with it?  i personally cannot imagine trying to be friends, or really missing, someone who i actually thought deserved to go to Hell.  certainly, i'd never want to be friends with someone who thought that of me. 

    this post makes me really want to ban all Christians from my funeral, because someone who really believes i deserve to go to Hell simply for not being Christian is definitely not my friend. 

  • StephanieP

    Why make judgments about who is not in Heaven? We can never know the inner workings of the heart. We cannot judge the soul of anyone else. Death is a mystery and the mercy of the Lord is great. I'm not saying that everyone definitely goes to Heaven, God is greater than we can know, and all things are possible with him.

    Who can say what was in Joe's heart at the moment of his death? The status of Joe's soul is not something you and I can tell.

  • willgreen

    I've had to deal with this as well, and what I think is that at the end of the day, people end up eternally where they want to go.

    Romans 10:13: "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

    1 Timothy 2:4: "Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth."

    2 Timothy 4:8: "And now the prize awaits me--the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give me on the day of his return. And the prize is not just for me but for all who eagerly look forward to his appearing."

    I think if someone does not go to heaven it can only mean that they will not call on the name of the Lord (i.e. want to spend eternity with God) at any point from now to eternity.  But, one might ask, how does this make sense?

    I think hell needs to be looked at something like in CS Lewis' Great Divorce for this to make the most sense.

  • CecilliaMarie@xanga

    Great post...I'm glad someone wrote on something like this. When I was in my senior year of high school my boyfriend of 3 years passed away in a car accident and he wasn't Christian, not even close...he constantly denied Christ and what He did for us. Obviously I don't know what his last thoughts were, I'm always praying that he came to Christ before he died and that he's in Heaven with our Father right now, but I know that he's probably not. It's a difficult thing to accept, especially to someone that you loved so much. All I could really do was pray that God would settle my heart and trust in Him to get me through all the pain I was experiencing. It's still hard for me to this day and I'm married to a different man, but God is carrying me through everything.

  • judas_asparagus@xanga

    i'm not a bible-believing christian, a jesus-loving-and-betraying agnostic at best, but...


    look up the original, hebraic definition of "sheol" which has been translated as "hell."


    sheol is the grave.  "the living know that they shall die but the dead know not a thing; neither have they anymore reward for the memory of them is forgotten."  - ecclesiastes 9:5 


    the dead know not a thing.  not even pain.  hell is the end, my friend.


  • anonymous

    @StephanieP - yea and that's why i said that in my post. that's why i said i hope he was saved at the last minute. 

  • anonymous

    @judas_asparagus@xanga - yeah sheol isn't hell. i never even mentioned that word in my post. maybe you should look at what jesus himself says in the new testament about hell. about it being eternal torment, about them having no rest day or night, about it being weeping and gnashing of teeth. look at the greek too. k thanks :)

  • anonymous

    If heaven is full of people like you, I sure hope I burn in hell with all the intelligent people.

  • KJLavender@xanga

    It was the kind of despairing questions mentioned in the post above that prompted me to write a poem a few years ago about how horrible it is to believe what Christian faith seems to require we believe. I was struggling to articulate my doubts and horrors in a way that other Christians would be able to "get it". I planned to write a long, footnoted essay and this came out isntead. My own faith isn't as shaky as it was when I wrote this, but I still wish there were better answers. So I leave the poem hanging out there and hope that God gives me answers that can bring peace about the after-death someday.


    Satan's win in numbers.
    Suffering temporal,
        then suffering eternal.
    One question gift-wrapped
         for some in silk,
         for some in barbed-wire,
         for some never presented;
         yet we all must answer the same.
    God victorious with the few saved
         and the screams of billions?
    His justice triumphs mercy.
    Love's offer stops with the heartbeat,
    the foot of the grave speaking louder
         than the foot of the Cross.

  • anonymous

    I recently have a friend who has lost a father who hasn't accepted Christ. We know that our God is a merciful God, and I don't really think any of us is to judge who will be in heaven and not. In the words of Billy Graham, there are three surprises when you get to Heaven. 1. You will see people who you didn't think would be there. 2. You will not see people there who you thought would be there. 3. when you open your eyes you are just there. We are to concentrate on the family of the loved one when they are going through the loss of their deceased, the one who has passed away as done so already. Whether they are in heaven or not, that is a matter between him/her and God. For everyone who is reading this... it seems kind-of crazy that all you got to do to get to heaven is to believe in Jesus. God's words tell us that if you want to get to Heaven, you must get registered. Whether you believe in it or not, the truth does not change. When you go into a country, you must register and if you want to live in that country, you must become a citizen. God's word never changes. God is merciful and compassionate, register for Heaven!

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