Saturday, 28 November 2009
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When Your Theology Plays Catch-Up
By Justin at BeDeviantFor discussion: What happens when your theology catches up with you? What happens when all the books with long words, endless debates about the nature of the Trinity and parsing of Greek verbs finally comes home to roost?
In other words, what happens when theory meets reality? What bends? What breaks?
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I'm not sure that I even understand the question.
Can you give an example?
Theology is reality, in my opinion. The question I believe you are actually asking is "what happens when theology is understood, when it becomes a tangible concept rather then an abstract concept?" In order to answer that question you must realize that theology is faith seeking understanding. It does not exist merely to confuse, but to deepen your faith in G-d and to understand all that living a life following Christ entails. When your theology catches up with you, as you say, I think that is the point when you understand what G-d wants you to understand at that time, and that you are called to apply it to your life. When your theology catches up to you, your life is, or should be changed. Otherwise,G-d's outstretched hand is still waiting for you to let your theology catch up to you.
If it started as a purely academic exercise, then it wasn't theology. It was philosophy about God. I like philosophy about God, but theology is a bit more.
Good question!!!
I'm still working on an answer...
The vast majority of theology breaks when it catches up to reality.
For practicality's sake, much of theology becomes just mere philosophy. Sure, I can ponder "I think, therefore I am" all I want, but is it really going to help me in my everyday life? This is much the same as the endless theological debates over things such as the Trinity or predestination. Whether God is or is not female, and whether free will is a concept or a reality will not affect my day to day routine (although it is sometimes fun to talk about). These things can be held within you, but there's no good way to 'live' them.
The question has it exactly backwards for we are the ones who play catch up to truth not the other way around.
Philosophically, that this question was posed backwards, say a lot. It says that our little self comes first, and therefore defines what truth is.
Here is a theological quote from Fides et Ratio (Faith and Reason) by Pope John Paul II couched in philosophical language:
Faith and reason are like two wings on which the human spirit rises to the contemplation of truth; and God has placed in the human heart a desire to know the truth—in a word, to know himself—so that, by knowing and loving God, men and women may also come to the fullness of truth about themselves (cf. Ex 33:18; Ps 27:8-9; 63:2-3; Jn 14:8; 1 Jn 3:2).
So our theology and philosophy have as their first end that we know ourselves and
This is why all that is the object of our knowledge becomes a part of our life (JPII-Fides et Ratio).
That is what happens with the we catch up to the truth, it becomes part of our life. We then able to engage in our final end, which is to know God.
Whatever is real, will pass the test. So many Christians take their own interpretations, make judgments from far away, within the safety of the church without understanding what goes on on the outside is far from the same thing.
Well, I think theology is a lived experience insofar as what you learn is (hopefully) how you act, or maybe influences how you act. But I've never thought about it till now so my idea might need some thinking over...
@LoBornlyte@xanga - "The question has it exactly backwards."
You are right. At first I thought, ' I did not know that I had gotten ahead of theology, I had better stop and wait just like John did at the empty tomb.' Wait -- it is theology that runs my life, and I can never get ahead of love... Faith and reason go hand in hand... it's just that we are never in the lead...
@When_We_Were_Both_Cats@xanga - "...theology breaks when it catches up to reality."
Theology is realism.
@When_We_Were_Both_Cats@xanga - I agree.
I'm just offering up conjecture right now, but perhaps the reason why so many "theologies" (or Philosophies) break is because they do not attempt to address how they're applied; they merely state something and give no real instruction how to carry it out.
On the other hand, I suppose there are very sound theologies (probably what I might refer to as doctrine) that actually implement very smoothly into reality. I think it depends largely on the inspiration behind the theology.
As a "Revelife Relevant" remark, I would LOVE to see some posts that take specific theologies and ask how they are applied-- like the mechanics of how it should work out in real life.
That'd be some pretty good discussion right there! ;)
Theory is tested reality. If the theory perfect in every aspect it does not bend nor break reality but rather explains it clearly down to the last detail.
Theory falls apart when it tells us that we should not have some desire and yet we do have that desire and no matter how we try to bury the desire, it keeps welling up from deep within our lives. Because we don't find a solution within our theory we dismiss our own lives as evil or as only to be tolerated until we die and go to a heaven. We never truly learn why those desires are there nor what to do about them in the present.
Theory falls apart when we blame others for things that happen to us and around us and blaming keeps us from taking responsibility, keeps us from becoming the change we wish to see in the world, to paraphrase Gandhi. The question, "Why is this happening to me?" is a good place to start...assuming we really want to know the answer.
Theory falls apart when we allow it to justify unhappiness in ourselves and others.
Theory falls apart when we discard reality because it's not doing what our theory tells us it should be doing and we create our own personal Branch Davidian compounds in order to shut the rest of the world out.
@shangel13@xanga - What's with the "G-d" spelling? I see this all the time & it makes me nuts. Is God a dirty word or something?????
Theology doesn't fall apart, we do. Then, we return to our theology to find out where we went wrong.
i don't think theology can ever stand up against reality. theology, unlike philosophy, has a requirement of believing in whatever deity you're studying. and for most Christians, that belief exists apart from whatever reality is for them.
@Amythist_Malaise@xanga -
It is typically done out of reverence for the name of God, similar to the Jewish use of the names Adonai (Lord) and Hashem (the Name) in place of YHWH/YHVH.
@Amythist_Malaise@xanga - I spell it this why for my own reminder. It is a show of reverance for
G-d, as many people today I believe do not show Him the respect that he deserves.
@monobeam@xanga - ooooooh awkward, ummmm....no, it isn't.
@When_We_Were_Both_Cats@xanga - "ooooooh awkward, ummmm....no, it isn't."
When I said that theology is realism, I meant to a Christian it is, that is, from the point of view of the Christian. Do you disagree? I'm not sure what here is awkward: theology is from God and there is no room for, not possibility of awkwardness; realism can be awkward to explain, but as a concept it's quite clear...
If you get your realism from a different source than God's revelation (as made clear to us in theology), then what is it?