"So when Jesus died on the cross, it is the same "now" as the present. Jesus is dying on the cross right now for all our sin."

Exactly one of the realities present in the Mass and the Eucharist. The Eucharist celebrated at every Mass is presided over by the same Christ and is the same meal he celebrated with the apostles before the Cross, the sacrifice at the altar the same sacrifice on Calvary (all of this shrouded in mystery, of course), every single hour of every single day all over the world for the last 2000 years. Even right now there are monasteries, parishes, priests and religious underground, etc. praying the Liturgy of the Hours, worshipping God and participating in the passion, death and resurrection of Christ, somewhere in the world as in every moment. Actually, in 23 minutes there will be Mass just down the street from me, and another one across the street an hour after that. Christ's passion and death are timeless and constant for us, bearing the Cross of our sins, and this reality is lived in every moment of the Catholic Church; it's one of my favorite things about being Catholic, being able to participate in that.

I imagine it is also the same reason the image of the crucifix (as opposed to a simple cross) is so prevalent, to remind us of this constant reality. Right on, brother!

This statement of yours reminds me of a prayer that is very popular in the Church and has been for some time:

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

And also of the memorial acclamation during the Mass when we profess the Mystery of Faith (there are a few versions):

Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again.

Lord, by your cross and resurrection, you have set us free. You are the savior of the world.

When we eat this bread and drink this cup we proclaim your death Lord Jesus, until you come in glory.

Here's a nice vid that I like for many reasons, but it mentions what I've been talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs6qZd_xP1w

This assumes that God is part of our world. But the spiritual plane may be a different plane from the one we live in altogether. Or maybe he's in one of the even higher dimensions above the fourth dimension that we can't visualize. There's a lot of possibilities, and it's impossible to tell which is correct. Your theory is interesting, but I'm not sure why it would mean that God is moving at the speed of light.

Einstein once calculated, and said that "If there is any God, He would be in the ninth to twelfth dimension".

Time is relative. Time exists here in this world because this world is made out of Atoms.;and life can only exist because time exists.
If time would not have existed, atoms would not have rotated, and everything would be frozen.
There might not even exist any atoms if time did not exist!

In the spiritual world there are no atoms, the way we know it. Therefor time does not exist.
When we die, everything of now will be now, and everything of the future will be now.
We'll see the future and the past, as through a glass. Know the future, and know the past. And because we'd have no earthly body, time will also be irrelevant to us! The past, and future will mean as much to us as the now; much like in a dream past present and future can mingle, and in the end of a dream I can find myself in the same situation as in the beginning of the dream!
But the past will be the past, and we'll only be able to look back into the past, as if looking through a telescope to a faraway object.
But time is relative to spiritual beings.
God is outside of the realm of the spiritual beings, meaning, only God is able to go back into time, and change it!
Therefor, God is always assured that whatever He starts, will always come to the goal He set it to be!

Because God can be not only everywhere at the same time, He also can be everywhere at all times!
He knows the outcome from the beginning, and makes changes along the way; much like a mastermind chess computer might know all the possible moves from the board layout, until a checkmate.

Life is a little more complex than a chess game. It continues to change! Man's free will makes it possible to twist and change the path between the beginning, and the end point. Yet God will always provide a way between where you are now, and the goal He made you for!

4D is nothing peculiar. We also live and move in 4D! What is 4D? 4D is 3D with time.
Meaning a 3D object that is constantly changing.
In a 3D environment, I could see a toy cube. 100 years in the future, that toy will be ragged, broken and totally not look the same; but yet it IS the same object!
I could look at a kid, 10 years down the road he is a teenager. 10 years later he is an adult, and may have grown a beard! He looks different, yet he is the same person.
That is the effect of 4D.

as far as how fast God moves, God moves forward, and backwards in time!
I have personally experienced multiple times, when people start to pray for me, that I can say within a 2 minute accuracy when they started praying for me, and most of the time I can know who's praying for me!
Even if they are at the other side of the world!

When watching an episode of Benny Hinn, he testified that at one time, he prayed for the healing of someone. When the radiowaves transmitted the television signal that same week, a couple of days later, a person watching got healed from the desease!
This speaks mightily of how God can work!
God knows what's coming, and at the right time releases his word; and man, not knowing, happened to capture it on camera, past video editing, broadcast it, and a woman in a far away town saw the broadcast, and got healed!
This is amazing!
Absolutely fascinating!
This should tell us that God has eyes that look from the future to where we are today, and has hands to steer, adjust and protect us where we are right here, and now!

Great post. Time and space are ultimately fleeting which in what seems an irony means that the present moment is what is important. Even quantum physics supports your post. The only thing I disagree with is your self-dismissal, "....because I am just a mere human..." Being human is nothing to hang your head about, quite the contrary, no matter who tells you otherwise. "...but I am always trying to find a better understanding." That is the key. The words, "Seek and ye shall find" were not said in vein nor do they refer to an Easter egg hunt. The entirety of the answer is found nowhere outside of yourself.

I do not think God is in the 4th dimension, time. God is outside all of Space AND time. Here's how I think of it:

Imagine all of space. We know of 3 spatial dimensions, but for the sake of the analogy we'll use 2. This puts our universe in 2D, like the surface of a sheet of paper. We'll ignore Time as a dimension for now.

So, imagine all of our universe is confined to a sheet of paper. To us, the only directions are forward/back and up/down. Imagine a 2D person stuck inside a 2D room. We're trapped in both dimensions, but what about a third?

Now imagine that we, as 3D beings, are looking at these 2d people trapped in a room. They can't see past the "walls", but we can see that they're inside a rectangle. In fact, we can see around all the walls in their universe, even look at their insides and outsides at the same time. I think it must be like that for God. He can see our entire universe as if it were spread out in front of Him.

Now, for Time. Imagine one frozen scene from the 2D world. Now line it up with the next instant, like putting a bunch of frames from a video next to each other. Time is best thought of as another dimension like space, except Space connects things and Time connects events.If you could see the Time dimension for our 2D world, it would look like a stack of paper "universes" extending from the beginning to the end. I imagine this could be an accurate analogy of how God sees Time passing for us.

The only flaw with these two analogies is that, for us, we're just looking at a space of limited dimensions from an extra dimension in space. In God's case, He'd be looking at it from OUTSIDE of all space and time. I'm not sure exactly how that works. Maybe the answer lies in Quantum Mechanics.

No, I do not think God travels at the speed of light. If he's outside of the universe, he has no such constraints. Otherwise, yes, I doubt He'd break his own laws.

@Liquid_Pain_523@xanga - 

There is an old saw, an old saying, that if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and flies like a duck, then it's probably a duck. Faster than light travel has been posited and considered for about 100 years, now. Two of the concepts of what would happen in faster-than-light (and I'll refer to it as 'fast-as-light' for fun) travel are that all times might be equally accessible from the ship, which we understand as a character of God. Also, such a ship would (for an instant, or for the duration of the trip, depending on the personal views or choice of the person talking) find the totality of existence equally accessible (and Christians generally believe that God is everywhere).

Thus, God has at least TWO characteristics in common with fast-as-light travel. If you want to draw a conclusion from two points, you could say,"God is moving as fast as light."

This conclusion is NOT safe, because when playing with logic, you need point-to-point equivalence. Therefore we cannot safely compare God's existence to mere speed of light, although there are some interesting and useful items found in that comparison. It's like comparing a person to the picture of a person. There might be many things in common, but one is still a living person, and the other merely a picture.

God is within all Christians. So whatever dimension God 'inhabits', we would have to be available to that diminsion, as well, correct? Otherwise, how would he get to us, dwell IN us? For my view, God inhabits diminsions like a computer inhabits its' data. (Or in translation, you put the cart before the horse or the packaging inside the gift.)

@gmx0@xanga - 

RIGHT! There's the point! How'd I miss the SIMPLE version?

@togodsownglory@xanga - Yes, I agree. Before God created the universe, he existed apart from it. Now that he created it, he also exists in it.

The reference for all these discussions.