Sunday, 25 October 2009

  • Is The Church Equivocating?

    Is The Church Equivocating? On the Church of God Ministries homepage, in the FAQ, there is a question that reads, "How do you relate to other churches theologically?"  Part of the answer reads like this:

    We value the insights of those who espouse fundamentalist, liberal, neoorthodox, liberation, and process theologies, but we have some serious questions about some of the methods and conclusions of these schools of thought.

    Another question asks what restrictions Church of God places on its members.  (The honest answer is none, from the top - it's an open-content church, and all true restrictions are put in place by the community itself.)  Part of the answer reads like this:

    Diversity, within the scope of the teachings of Jesus Christ, is expected. Conformity in all matters of doctrine and practice is not the goal of the Church of God for its people. We are mutually committed to God in Christ, to the leadership of the Holy Spirit, and to local, national, and international fellowship with Christians. Some congregations and some individual Christians may tend toward a major involvement with social causes as an expression of their personal faith. Others may concern themselves principally with an individual expression of piety and often focus on personal religious lifestyles. There is room for both types of witness and concern.

    More relevant to my own views, the article on The Church of God and Military services contains both of the following paragraphs:

    [T]he Church of God recognizes that Christians can and do, in good conscience, enlist and serve in the military... The church also advocates that local congregations should support those in the armed forces with prayer and regular communication.
    and
    The Church of God has a significant tradition as a peace church, and therefore, it supports individuals who register as conscientious objectors. Early documents of the church make strong statements regarding opposition to war and to participation in military service.

    The article in fact goes on to answer the question of, "What if, in addition to being a conscientious objector, I decide that I cannot in good conscience even register for the draft?"

    Failure to comply with the law and regulations of the Selective Service System is a felony if convicted. Nevertheless, people are aware that their opposition to war may also include opposition to participating in preparation for war, and they feel that registration has those political and military purposes.

    At present, only the most vocal or self-reporting non-registrants are being prosecuted, but if this is your stance, begin to prepare yourself spiritually and psychologically for possible trial and imprisonment. Gather support around you. Contact one of the groups listed in the back for referral to an attorney knowledgeable about current draft law. As described earlier, keep a record of your convictions and behavior accessible.

    Now, is all of this double-speak an example of positive openness in the church, allowing a wide diversity within the body of Christ?  Or is it an example of weakness and equivocating on the part of leadership, refusing to come down specifically with Christian instruction?

    Or is it both/and? Somewhere in between? Something else entirely?

    Can the same church body really support both fundamentalism and neo-orthodoxy?  Pacifism and voluntary military service?

    What do you think?

    -NDSR

Comments (8)

  • anonymous

    Can the same church body really support both fundamentalism and neo-orthodoxy?  Pacifism and voluntary military service?


    Pacificism is not fundamental to Christianity.  But voluntary military service is.  It's called giving your life for your brother.  Remember the Gospel of John?

  • PKforchrist@xanga

    I can see how their dialect seems to contradict themselves. Here's a question, why don't more churches see the military as a mission feild? It definintly feels like an island out here at times!

  • aledawithwings@xanga

    @fallingraindrop@xanga - How is it giving your life for your brother to die in a war mandated by the government and funded by major corporate interest?

  • anonymous

    @aledawithwings@xanga - How is it giving your life for your brother to die in a war mandated by the government and funded by major corporate interest?


    Sounds like a leftist talking point. What wars are you referring to? 


    The wars in Afganistan and Iraq are virtually bare of corporate interest and because of Allied forces 50,000,000 people were liberated from murderous, despotic tyrants like Saddam Hussein.


    Iraq is normalizing and about to join civilized nations due to the sacrifice of many brave men and women.

  • aledawithwings@xanga

    You use leftist like a swear word. It may be easy to turn folks off that way, but it wouldn't be smart.  I could just as easily say this is a fundy talking point, couldn't I? 


    Actually, the war in Iraq specifically is LADEN with corporate interest. 
    The second we invaded Iraq our next step was for ConAgra to flood the country with so much grain that it seized the local agricultural economy making paupers out of every farmer in the country. So ConAgra could make some cash. And that's just our first day in the country. 
    We have intentionally seized every one of their major markets, making the country a virtual wasteland of poverty in our attempts to "deliver them from a facist dictator". 
    Or was it really that we needed another place to sell GM corn and soy beans? Bringing with us our slew of diabetes and heart disorders?
  • wrybreadspread@xanga

    @fallingraindrop@xanga - @aledawithwings@xanga - your humble reader was buzzing through the 'net this fine morning and he noticed this difference of opinion.  He was about to continue when he was sipping on his morning caffeine and was stopped in his tracks by a thought of showcasing two sides of an issue.


    Before I go further, let me ask: do either of you see any merit whatsoever in the other's POV?  Not that it is germaine to my idea, which is this:


    Would one or both of you be willing to write a post for my blog enlarging on your respective positions?  Let me assure you that I'm not into trickery.  Nothing will be taken out of context.  I'm an admitted religious and political conservative, but I try to keep my statements on an academic level without getting personal.


    Please don't feel under excessive compuction, either of you.  And thank you both ahead of time for entertaining this bizzare notion of mine.  may God bless us every one.

  • wrybreadspread@xanga

    Some fellowships in the body of Christ make pacifism an article of faith, like the Friends (or Quakers).  Most do not.  It woould seem to be one of those things that fall under liberty of conscience.  I think it was Augustine who formulated the principles of a just war.  I look at it this way.  If my family is endangered, what kind of weinie am I not to defend them.  Same with my homeland.  For the wellbeing of others?  That too.(i know it sounds simplistic)

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