Sunday, 04 October 2009

  • A Forgotten Sacrament

    A Forgotten Sacrament Both Christians and non-believers are familiar with the idea of sacraments (or ordinances, as Southern Baptists prefer to call them, thinking the term 'sacrament' too Catholic and/or mystical sounding).  They are the practices the church engages in in the belief that God is also acting "in, through and under."  Baptism and communion are the most commonly understood sacraments, but any action performed by the church in the faith that God is also acting is a sacrament, so marriages and healing services also qualify.

    A sacrament you seldom see in church

    In Matthew 18, shortly after Jesus has revealed himself as the Messiah and used the term "church" for the first time, he imparts this bit of wisdom:
    If your brother sins against you, go and rebuke him in private. If he listens to you, you have won your brother. But if he won't listen, take one or two more with you, so that "by the testimony of two or three witnesses every fact may be established."  If he pays no attention to them, tell the church.  But if he doesn't pay attention even to the church, let him be like an unbeliever and a tax collector to you. 
    In summary, it's a strategy of conflict-resolution.  If a fellow disciple has sinned, your duty as a follower of Jesus is not to look the other way, but to take them aside and ask them about it.  If you reach an understanding, then that's perfect, but if not take two or three "witnesses" with you to address the matter again. 

    Now, these aren't witnesses in the sense that they saw the sin committed.  That's irrelevant.  What Jesus is doing here is citing the Levitical statute that in civil trials two or more witnesses are required for a conviction.  This makes it clear that Jesus intends this rule to function as a form of jurisprudence in the church, which he envisions as a continuation of the nation of Israel. 

    If even this fails, the entire discipleship community (that is, the church) is brought in on the matter.  Naturally, the offending party has motivation to see that it doesn't come to this.  But should the full weight of the church's appeal fail to bring the sinner back in line, the church should choose to cut all ties with them rather than let the issue go.  We always have to bear in mind that this is the context in which Jesus says, "Forgive not seven times but seventy times seven." 

    What makes this a sacrament?

    Jesus goes on to say
    I assure you: Whatever you bind on earth is already bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth is already loosed in heaven. Again, I assure you: If two of you on earth agree about any matter that you pray for, it will be done for you by My Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there among them.
    The point is that the God is acting "in, through and under" the actions of the church in its judgment.  When the church forgives the offender and welcomes them back into community, God himself is binding us together.  And when the sinner refuses to repent for the sake of community, God is cutting them loose in the same act that the church is. 

    The bottom line
    This is a radical concept for a number of reasons.
    1. The initiative is a personal one, not a function of the clergy.  It is when you know of someone's sin that you talk to them privately.
    2. The intention is to restore the person to community, never to punish an infraction.  There is no talk of punishment (though there may always be consequences).
    3. No distinction is made between major and minor sins.  Any sin can be forgiven, and no sin is so small as to be worth overlooking.
    4. The focus of the sacrament is not the church, or keeping the community pure.  It is the health and heart of the offender, with the hope of restoring them to community without forsaking truth. 

    Now, there s one difficulty in interpretation.  In the best and oldest manuscripts of Matthew, the phrase "against you" is absent from the first line.  The general line of thought is that an inattentive or overzealous copyist wanted to make the phrase match up more closely to verse 21.  But even if we take the more restrictive meaning of only directly addressing sins that are against us personally, this understanding has radical implications for both Roman Catholic interpreters and readers in the so-called free churches. 

    John Howard Yoder says of this practice that:
    Taking [it] seriously would put at the mercy of a number of ... scarecrows.  It gives more authority to the church than does Rome, trusts more to the Holy Spirit than does Pentecostalism, has more respect for the individual than does liberal humanism, makes moral standards more binding than did Puritanism and is more open to the new situation than was what some called "the new morality" a quarter-century ago. 

    He goes on to say:
    If practiced, it would radically restructure the life of churches.  Thus the path to the rediscovery of Christian faithfulness might lead through some positions contemporary Christian "moderates" have been trying to avoid.

    What do you think?
    Have you ever seen this practice of the church put into practice?
    How would a consistent use of this practice "radically restructure the life of churches"? 
    How different is our situation from the discipleship community Jesus was addressing?  Is it feasible to bring every dispute before "the whole church"?

    What are your answers to some of these questions?

Comments (15)

  • SirNickDon@xanga

    Oh, I love that picture.  But the formatting is hard to follow.  Oh well.

  • mikenpeg@xanga

    I've seen it used. Unfortunately, in the Amish/Mennonite structure that I am part of, it gets abused about 90 percent of the time; used as leverage in political religious games.
     I think it can be done correctly, but I think it's one of the most difficult "sacraments" to follow without human nature interfering.

  • soy_esteban@xanga

    If we even begin to the first step, one-on-one discussions, that would go a long way. As it is now, most Christians operate by way of gossip or by informing the pastor of another person's sins without talking to him/her first. I almost always turn the person back to discuss it with the offender. Our church has become much healthier in the past year or so, since we've made this first step a huge emphasis.

  • Such_Were_You@xanga

    I have seen it abused successfully, but not done properly successfully.    

  • fallingraindrop@xanga

    What is described in this article is the sacrament of Reconciliation.


    A sacrament is a sign which expresses in a sensible manner, some sacred thing which is outside the grasp of the senses. 


    Reconciliation of sins is a sacrament.  Jesus gave his Apostles the power to forgive sins.  The Catholic clergy, direct spiritual descendants of the Apostles forgive sins in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.


    This is called absolution.  The priest sits in place of Christ and says at each confession, "Your sins are forgiven.  Go in peace."  These are the very words Jesus used in the Gospels.

  • fivethings

    That's funny that you call it "forgotten,"  I grew up in a world where it was obsessed over, to quite a legalistic degree.  I even seen it used to refuse help to people in abusive situations because they came to a third party (the police!) before "talking it out" with the abuser!

  • scrambledmegsntoast@xanga

    What @fallingraindrop@xanga - said. I attempted to say as much in the original article. I should have just waited for this to be featured and not wasted my comment there.

  • TrumvilleOrbison@xanga

    in your breakdown of the process, you forgot one EXTREMELY important phrase from the verse: "against you." if a brother or sister in christ sins AGAINST YOU--THEN you can continue with this process. otherwise, i would say no.

  • Ork58@xanga

    Well, like many concepts in the Bible, it is an ideal. Ideally this is the way it would happen. First, what if the "person who has sinned against you" doesn't believe their actions or behaviors are a sin, and in fact, you are the one that is sinning against them? That turns the whole thing on it's head. Next, what, if when you bring it to the whole church, it's the church board and members-in-power that are the ones sinning? How do you get corrupt people out of positions of power when they get themselves and their cronies elected and appointed year after year? You hate to give up on the church and move on, but sometimes that is the only way. There are other churches.


    I have seen a large church in our town use (abuse) the above mentioned process. They would call out people and chastize them right in service, in front of hundreds of other worshippers. They were so zealous in their pursuits of this philosophy, they came to be thought of as a cult. In fact, our smaller church began holding "deprogramming classes" for victims of that large church. And so did several others. Its easy to see how fanatical charismatic leaders can control such a large group of people. And in the members minds, you were either for them or against them, there was no middle ground. If you weren't a believer, walking in lockstep with them, you were going to burn in hell for all eternity. That has been many years ago, and the leader has mellowed with age. People finally woke up to the nonsense and backed off. We don't hear of such radical actions, public humiliation, etc. out of them.


    Sometimes people are fearful when another sins against them. Sometimes it is not a simple infraction. How do you apply the above rule when the perpetrator is 6'2" , 275 and known to have a hot temper. Or someone who has abused a child? Or made suggestive remarks to someones spouse?  These are delicate issues and must be handled appropriately. Some have legal ramifications as well as moral ones.

  • tau_1@xanga

    Very beautiful post. Because most churches has taken love and compassion out of the church, most people just go to church and everyone leave and go home. The church is not the hospital for healing as it should be.

  • SirNickDon@xanga

    @TrumvilleOrbison@xanga - The phrase "against you" is absent from the oldest and best manuscripts of Matthew, and it absent from the parallel passage in Luke 17, which simply says, "If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him."  I'm not at all certain whether this is meant only for those who sin against you, or those whose sin you know about.  In either case, I think what's important is that it's not specifically a function of the church leadership.  

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  • HLPU@xanga

    Seems to me that this observation depends upon one's definition of "sacrament".  The various church bodies disagree because the definition of what that word (sacrament) includes is different among the bodies.  The Orthodox and Lutherans have internal disagreements, the Roman Catholics have a set number, and others take differing views as well.

  • deepestrecesses

    What Do you think?


    I think that this passage is very important and Needs special attention.  The issue regarding the phrase "against you" is not irrelevant.  It is important to note that some of our oldest manuscripts do not include this phrase, but some (if not many) of them do include it. 


    However, this does need to be implemented within the Church; it is a nearly perfect solvant system.  Most mature Christians will be able to settle a dispute against one another in private without the need of taking a greater multitude of people with them-- this is a compassionate step in the system because it allows the one in error to save some face and rectify the situation without being embaressed.  Again, I am talking about sins commited against you, personally; although I do not think this restricts us from confronting brothers who have sinned generally, I don't encourage everyone to go on a witch hunt for sinners within the Church.  I think that job needs to be left to the most mature of the flock (such as elders and deacons).


    Then you see the second step of bringing witnesses; this may include "eye witnesses" or (in my opinion) also may include "witnesses of Christ" that are mature enough to be a useful catalyst in solving the dispute, quietly and without embaressment.


    If this fails and the member refuses to rectify the situation, the entire Church needs to be brought in and the member will need to be given the chance to rectify his transgression once more before the Church decides to remove the member. 


    Again, I do not think this should be applied too lightly; I am often caught speeding.  That is a sin.  Many times it is an unconscious sin.  So if you open the doors too wide and you allow the spiritually immature to practices this against any and everyone who is percieved to have sinned, you'll have a HUGE mess on your hands.  That is why the Elders and Deacons are in the Church-- to protect the Church from these kinds of problems.


    Have you ever seen this practice of the church put into practice?


    Yes-- that is why I have cautioned against openin the doors too widely on this practice.  It is prudent to include sins that have been personally commited against you, and allow your Elders, Deacons, Preachers, and other recognized mature members to handle the other situations.  


    How would a consistent use of this practice "radically restructure the life of churches"? 


    You would be sure to see a more efficent Church, for sure.  Your members would have more respect for one another and would be less likely to commit sins such as gossip against one another.  In congregations that have a problem with "politic'in" outside the doors I think you would see a huge decrease in that as well as the entire body would be more proactive in solving these kinds of problems. However, in everything, there needs to be a great deal of compassion and mercy practiced.  Again, this is why I tend to request only the most spiritually mature be involved in these kinds of things because tempers tend to fly, and words get said that can do a great deal of damage.


    How different is our situation from the discipleship community Jesus was addressing? 


    Well, we don't have Apostle Paul walking around..... but I think we're similar enough to still use this. There are still great spiritual leaders.... Apostles even, depending on your definition of Apostle.  


    Is it feasible to bring every dispute before "the whole church"?


    No, and that is not the command.  Again, this is why I caution people to be careful because you must implement not only the letter of this law, but also the intent of this law. Only disputes that cannot be settled in person, or between 2 or 3 witnesses are to be brought before the entire Church. The idea is not to embaress, hurt, or inflict humiliation upon members-- we are to show love and compassion to our brethren.  Neither is it the idea to turn the CHURCH into a "Christian Court Room".  The purpose is to put forward some kind of method to enhance unity, purify the Church, and settle disputes justly.  

  • brerjohn_lives@xanga

    Great post.


    First, "to the church" indicates, to me, the leadership of the church, as you would present this to the elders of the church before addressing any assembly. (According to the NT practice.)


    Second, once such a person is "put out" or excluded from, say, partaking of the cup and the bread of the Lord's supper, and becomes "as a Gentile"... that means he or she becomes an object of the work of the gospel and the care of others even as we would care for all who have not yet yielded to Christ in their lives. It is "tough love" but it is love. The goal would still be to gain the person for Christ.


    I have certainly seen this practiced, and I have seen the positive fruits of it.


    P.S. This phrase "where two or three are gathered together" is often used to "prove" that a church can be made up of only two or three... but when seen in context, it is evident the two or three are NOT considered the church, since if the person doesn't receive the two or three, the matter is THEN taken to the church. And, to me, the elders represent the church in such matters (and the elders thus really do determine the practical existence of the church...no elders, really no churchl but then no group of Christians is without those who are relatively more mature, even if relatively just by a little...it is they who must exercise judgment and answer to the Lord -- Heb. 13:17).


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