Sunday, 30 August 2009

  • Ugly In The Eyes Of God

    Ugly In The Eyes Of God Now I'm not highly religious or anything, but if it's one thing I've learned from church it's that God wants us to treat each and every individual with respect. Yet throughout history religious wars involving Christians have been pretty popular. I live in Texas, and there is a very strong religious foundation here, but what worries me is the condemning nature I've observed in "true" and "real" Christians. I don't really understand it, the whole fire and brimstone thing, the whole 'call your neighbor a devil worshipper and don't ever contact them again' thing. I don't understand making christianity look ugly.Honestly, I think that kind of stuff just drives people away. Sometimes I wonder if it's a question of morals or maturity.

    I remember there was a "real" Catholic girl in my class, and she wouldn't talk to anyone who she knew used tampons, because in her eyes they weren't virgins. Sure there are more controversial issues in which Christians have been ugly. Homosexuality, being a very popular issue nowdays. People come from all different walks of life, yet I see highly religious Christians disowning good people, because they don't go to church every sunday.

    Why is it that believers find it justified to be UGLY to other human beings to stand up to their God? Is that really what the bible teaches? Shun the nonbeliever?

    Now I have seen plenty of ultra religious people who are good to everyone and they are some of the nicest most curteous people I know, but I have also seen some ugly, ugly, ugly, Christians and it's embarassing to me.

    Is it right? or is it wrong?

    Here are just some that have made it to television...but I know you know what I'm talking about....
    "God hates the USA"
    "God hates you"
    "You're going to Hell"

    Why would I want to believe in a God that hates me?????
    How can anyone justify this???
    I want to know...

    Do you have any answers to these questions?

Comments (16)

  • quicksandbuddy@xanga

    I can't tell you why people act like that, but I can tell you that it's not right. Jesus never acted like that, so I don't know where some people get the idea that it's ok.

  • strictlyskinny@xanga

    sometimes I think religious hate is an act of the devil.

  • KENDRA__D@xanga

    You're right, it happens way too much. So many christians have the "holier than thou" mindset, and it definitely drives people away. A lot of the people in my family are the worst about it. I'm from east texas, and excuse my sterotyping, but a lot of the redneck southern baptists really seem to be the most hateful "christians" I've ever met. They like everyone but "them fags, blacks, and freaks."Threatening people eternity in hell is not the most effective way to bring someone to God. Of course it's human nature to judge, but I do try my best as a christian to see everyone equally and show love to everyone. However, no one is perfect.

  • anonymous

    I know a lot of Christians like that, and they especially get weirded out if I say I'm dating an Agnostic or that I've been with chicks before. Not very accepting; I hate close-minded people in general.

  • Roadkill_Spatula@xanga

    Seeing the post in your own blog with the video clips included is helpful (above they appear as simple quotes).

    Man, my brothers and sisters can be embarrassing! I'm really sorry that they're so clueless about what it means to walk with God.

    The apostle Paul made it clear that it's not our job to judge the world. We do have a responsibility within the church, though.

  • anonymous

    Yes. Thank you for being brave enough to ask this question out loud. To be honest, the ugly christians, catholics, etc is what broke me away from Church and instead motivated me to have a personal relationship with God. For that, I've become a much, much much better, kinder person.

    I feel that many people use religion as a crutch for their insecurities. Some churches and communities use it as a medium for whatever agendas they want to press, and will stoke the fires of a desperate, hurt mind in order to build a very strong army. Hatred is caused by hurt, and while a few churches will ask you to look inside yourself to become stronger and overcome, most churches will find ways to take that hurt and fan it into a fuel, funnel for rage. It's amazing.

    I feel it's human nature to want to be the best at something, to be better than someone else. Churches allow you to take your weaknesses and hold them over others. It allows you to shut your mind furiously, because too many times, opening up your ears and heart to the reality of others cause you to feel inferior, or uncertain. And that's a slippery slope many, MANY are unwilling to go down. Religion, as a community, and the religious, as zealots, offer an incredible blanket of protection for your wounds.

    It's always interesting to observe those who are the most extreme against something - e.g, extreme anti-gay actions/viewpoints (homophobia) - and realize that more often than not, these zealots are fighting against something inside THEMSELVES. Most dripping, venomous acts of hatred are bred and fueled from a hatred within themselves.

    I can only tell you the amount of underground homosexuals I've encountered who are so purely, passionately, devotedly against the mere existence of homosexuality.

    good post.

  • Seen_More_Spine_in_Jellyfish@xanga

    This is a pet peeve of mine, people telling others they'll go to hell, people refusing to associate with people who are gay or just different from themselves. I've always believed in treating someone as a human being and not looking away just because they are different. We may not see eye to eye on lifestyles, but they still are children of God.....

  • rough_souls@xanga

    a catholic woman told my mom she was going to hell because my mom isn't catholic, she's methodist

  • discover_hienie@xanga

    hmm well that is a person's opinion can't really do anything about what a person says. they judge however they want to. we all have certain thoughts about what a person does

  • strictlyskinny@xanga

    @Roadkill_Spatula@xanga - yea, I guess they didn't want to put them in :/

    agreed. that was one of the first things I was taught in church

  • strictlyskinny@xanga

    @rough_souls@xanga - yea, people can be ridiculous....I had plenty of children tell me I was going to hell in gradeschool because I wasn't baptized

  • AngelBeast777@xanga
    There are two reasons people behave in this ugly way, one of which you suggested.  The first reason is because that is what they are taught in their churches.  They are taught fear and judgment, works, legalism and all sorts of things the Bible teaches against.  There have always been those who teach these things out of ignorance or insecurity.  They are behaving in an evil fashion.

    Sometimes a young in the Lord believer will be taught correctly but judge because they haven't been able to grasp the full power of God's grace and mercy.  We all come out of the legalistic world system of rewards and punishments.  It takes each of us different amounts of time to grok the vastly different system God has for us - of love because we are so thoroughly loved.

    So the two reasons are errant teaching and immaturity.

  • Je_Veux@xanga

    wow thanks everyone!!!!
    I was really hoping to get an answer from someone who believes in acting this way
    but maybe not :)

    @KENDRA__D@xanga - exactly, im in east texas and people can be so ignorant
    even the kids are mean to eachother over religion

    @discover_hienie@xanga - well, you can do something, because the people who spread messages of hate for their god now owe 11 million dollars.

    @Seen_More_Spine_in_Jellyfish@xanga - exactly! why would god create someone to hate them????

    @jess - wow, thank you :)

    @AngelBeast777@xanga - thanks, now I get what my pastor was saying about fear being a work of the devil

  • Roadkill_Spatula@xanga

    @AngelBeast777@xanga - Grok? I read that book earlier this year. It was amazingly unprofound, but the writing was light enough not to be annoying.


    The Heinlein book I enjoyed most was The Rolling Stones. Starbeast wasn't bad, nor was Podkayne, but his adult stuff was disturbing.

  • subSacred@xanga

    Your problem is you live in Texas.

  • CoG_Love

    I think everyone here is already aware that Christ taught a different way to approach people. I'm not worried so much about being grouped together accidentally with such individuals. I have my own points of view that would make them less-than-accepting of myself, so I'm not really concerned with having them as company.

    What was Christ's idea of good company? Among his disciples was a fisherman and his brother (a low class job at the time), a tax collector, a young man who spent a lot of time under a tree thinking about God, and other interesting individuals that were largely discarded by their society. Now, Jesus didn't dismiss them outright for their paths, but extended an opportunity for salvation to them, and later they became apostles. Those Christ took issue with were (surprise!) religious authorities who saw their self-imposed standards as reason to lord their self-righteous attitudes over those they governed.

    Don't allow a dismissive few to discourage you from calling yourself a follower of Christ.

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