Tuesday, 04 August 2009

  • Masturbation is Not a Sin!

    When I read the front page blog post about the author who infiltrated the Christian campus of Liberty University, I was kind of saddened and disgusted. While I agree masturbation can become a sin, I don't agree that it inherently is one. That being said, I would like to note, that everything can become a sin; as a sin is simply when you set up an idol or addiction above God. I will attempt to clarify the true reasons that masturbation can BECOME a sin here. 

    1. Masturbation can lead to or accompany impure thoughts about the person you are dating or are attracted to. 
    This is a true statement and must be watched carefully. It is possible to masturbate and simply think about what you are doing and what you are feeling. I know many women who simply think about what it would feel like to actually be having sex or even simply on what they are doing. I even know some girls who think about absolutely nothing. In my personal opinion, scripture says we are to take every thought captive, therefore, I see no reason why this is not possible. Some women even spend the time exploring their bodies, all the while thanking God for the wonder he created. 

    2. Masturbation is a very personal thing and can develop into a FOCUS on your self during real sex in a committed relationship. 
    When you get married and are engaging in regular vaginal sex, most women aren't satisfied completely. Thus the problem that if you have made masturbation something you do habitually in order to simply gain pleasure you may come to expect your partner to do exactly what you want them to or look down on them for not making you the focus during sex. Sex is a give and take thing. Some times you won't have an orgasm and you have to realize it's not all about you. You have to spend time loving your partner and they will spend time loving you. Some times sex will be all about them and you will not get anything out of it. If this is the norm however, then the relationship is unhealthy and you need to sit down and talk to them about it frankly.

    3. Masturbation can lead to pornography.
    This statement is the most dangerous part of masturbation. This is completely separate from the impure thoughts problem because it is so serious. Many people are led into needing stimulation when they desire to masturbate. If this is the case, then obviously you don’t really NEED to do it and that it’s an abuse of your body’s functions. It becomes an addiction where you are satisfying yourself and making a connection to a woman or man who is not really there and is a hollow and negative act. It also sets up unachievable standards for a mate to follow. In pornography 99% of all the emotions and feelings portrayed are fake and the sex shown is simply acting. An old MTV show  once talked about the lives of porn stars, the women especially talked about how sex no longrt had meaning anymore. They could have sex all day and not feel anything because sex had no real purpose anymore (other than physical function and for making money). How very sad. Masturbation, to these same spiritless sexual acts, is setting your self up for a stronghold that may become VERY difficult to overcome later in life.

     4.  Masturbation can become a habit, addiction, idol, and crutch.
    I know a whole bunch of men who have told me that they made it through certain parts of their life by masturbating. It was an area of escape for them because their lives were so out of control. Many talk about how they spend most of their time in their rooms because they would spend the whole day "doing it" and hoped no one knew what was going on. Some people have become so addicted that they will masturbate when they are at sleepovers or on trips where they sleep at someone else’s house. Others will tell you they don’t even know why they do it. Instead of getting help for their problems they turn to it because it gives a chemical/hormonal release that will make them feel better. Instead of reading their Bible for guidance and instruction, they turn to the feel good drugs that are given when you achieve orgasm.

    5. Masturbation is a simulation of sex and outside of mutual masturbation within a marriage; it is simply connecting yourself to nothing but you.
    Interconnecting yourself has been a valid concern many Christians have asked about. While I don’t have much input on this subject, I do understand the concern and like pornography, it should be considered very much in your contemplation of this topic.

    6. Masturbation is a stumbling block that will possibly lead you to inappropriate relationships such as internet sex and possibly affairs.
    Truthfully the latter of these is less likely, however, if you publicly do Internet chatting and what many call “cybersex.” You are in a lot of trouble. You are creating an outside relationship with the feelings of connection that come with masturbation and this can be a very destructive situation. It should be a private matter that isn’t really discussed with anyone else outside of these kinds of discussions.

    Overall, I could probably think of a few more but this is a good enough start. I do tell teens that masturbation isn’t inherently a sin, but it can, like anything else, become a sin.  It become an idol or God in your life. You can turn any habit into such a God. Money, marital sex, music, TV, shopping, children, relationships, church, etc. can all become gods or idols in your life. You can’t serve your emotions or your body. As long as you are constantly seeking God---in your attitude towards your actions and truly feel no conviction in doing it, then you have no reason to feel you shouldn’t learn more about your body and share it with your spouse. Aside from these ideas, there is no real scriptural evidence that masturbation is wrong. Personal beliefs, traditional community feelings, and an overall religious taboo have flavored the current church’s feelings on the subject. If you are Catholic, I don’t have anything to say to you other than the scriptures talking about God striking the man dead for spilling his seed was because: A) man didn’t follow God’s distinct law about having to conceive a child for his brother who died and B) he was also “wasting” his seed which was to contain the messiah who still hadn’t been born yet. The Jews were expecting him and therefore every sperm was sacred and hoped to be the ever awaited Messiah. 

    So who is right? Those that believe masturbation is a sin or those that believe it is allowed as long as it doesn't become an idol?

Comments (151)

  • Strong_Protector@xanga

    First of all, that picture, haha.


    Secondly, I think we need to change our view of what sin is.  Sin is anything that we do, think, or feel that corrupts us from the original being God created us to be.  So, we have to then figure out where masturbation falls into that.  You've done well at that I think.
  • subSacred@xanga

    Um... I won't take the article seriously with that picture there. 

  • sarahzthoughts@xanga

    Oh goodness, this post is going to get flamed BIG TIME.


    And to echo the above comments...nice job on the picture, Revelife! Way to cause other people to stumble

  • BarniganFlarn@xanga

    Keeping your mind blank during masturbation? Yeah right. Even if you're not thinking impure thoughts and are simply focusing on the bodily sensations, then aren't you thinking only of yourself and your pleasure? Isn't that a violation of #2 and #5 already? Also if you're thinking about what it feels like to actually be having sex and you're not married, then you're thinking lustfully. You're imagining/simulating something that you don't have or shouldn't be having. 


    Orgasms are inherently selfish. You can't have one unless you're focusing on your own pleasure and manipulating your body in order to achieve that pleasure. Even in a partner situation where you may be primarily aiming to the pleasure the other person, you're still receiving pleasure from them, and what they do to pleasure you will likely be based on what you tell them you enjoy, or in helping them to manipulate your body to achieve pleasure. This involves acknowledging your own self gratification. 
    I think people who claim to keep their mind completely blank or pure while masturbating are lying. Even if they're not playing out dirty scenarios or lusting after someone they can't have, they're still focused on their own self gratifying physical needs. 
  • InTheThin@xanga

    Oh some parts of Christianity are just a tad silly.

  • fueledbylaura@xanga

    Ummmm I dono. I don't know whats up with it though, I'm not a boy.

  • TheA1pha0mega@xanga

    @jesusmoshes2 As a happily married Christian man (I'm 23) I can assure you, orgasms are NOT inherently selfish. They are a wonderful gift that you can give your partner and I LOVE being able to offer this gift to my wife with no desire for anything in return. Is it selfish to allow someone to bless you? Or you enjoy a gift that you have been given? I don't think so...

    What are your thoughts?

  • proudmom87@xanga

    I'd rather not give my own thoughts here, but just want to say this was an interesting article.

  • anonymous

    @jesusmoshes2@xanga - and whats wrong with "gratifying a physical need" especially if you're not idolizing, cheating, porning, whatvering  ?

  • Lordv16@xanga

    I only masturbate to myself or to jesus/god, so no it is not a sin. Not for me

  • goalsforjanuary@xanga
  • anonymous

    This post is disheartening, especially the last remark about Catholics.


    If you are catholic, I don’t have anything to say...


    Paragraph CCC 2352 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church gives the orthodox Christian teaching on this subject.


    The Church teaching is an ancient teaching so it is very hard for moderns to deal with the strictness of it.

  • fueledbylaura@xanga
  • too_pretty_to_die@xanga

    @fueledbylaura@xanga - wow... really?  haha this is the first time i've ever met a girl who didn't know how.

  • fueledbylaura@xanga
  • whataloserxx@xanga

    @fueledbylaura@xanga - don't worry about it. you'll figure it out.

    I am very religious and spiritual, but I really don't like looking at the bible as ultimate law for everything in ones life, or as something to make someone feel guilty about doing a natural thing, like masturbating.

    How I personally look at it...if someone would choose masturbation over something more extreme as listed in the post, such as getting addicted to porn, having cyber-sex relationships, having an affair, etc...then in my mind, whats the problem? its a completely NATURAL thing.

  • anonymous

    @whataloserxx@xanga - its a completely NATURAL thing. God gave us the ability to have those feelings, right?


    Killing, stealing, coveting and fornicating are all natural to us.  But because sexuality is so intimate to us and so powerful it presents a particular concern with regard to us guiding it in an orderly fashion.

  • musterion99@xanga

    I agree with the post. It can be a sin but is not always. One doesn't need to have a blank mind either. You could imagine yourself being married. It's not adultery. You can't commit adultery with someone that doesn't exist.

    @rectangularprism@xanga - You are doing eisegesis. Those verses do not say masturbation. God would have said it, along with all the other sexually immoral sins, if it was a sin. You then say - "1 John 2:6 "Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did."

    Then no one should get married because Jesus didn't marry.

  • NoHeroesForTomorrow@xanga

    So... essentially, you are saying that masturbation has a 99% probability of becoming a sin, with a 1% chance of not becoming a sin (by beating yourself with, somehow, a blank mind). Whew. Tough one. 

  • Pcgecko85@xanga

    Masturbation: #1 reason why teenagers stop going to church.

  • anonymous

    @jesusmoshes2@xanga - I can agree with the fact that you would see masturbation as 99% bad, and I completely avoid it because I know if I ever do it, its for the wrong reason.  I think masturbation is so close to being always wrong it might as well will be for any human.


    However, I don't agree with what you're saying because you're saying its wrong because its "selfish".
    Don't ever eat good food.  Eat pills that contain the nutrients you need.  Anytime you touch food that you like you're being selfish and only gratifying your own pleasures; you can get the nutrients you NEED from pills.
    God created food, God wants us to eat good food, Jesus turned water into wine for us to have fun and enjoy life.  God created orgasms.  Its only when they become a bigger deal than God that it becomes a problem.
  • AndrenSairr

    @musterion99@xanga - @rectangularprism@xanga - I agree - this is eisegesis. How about quoting scripture that is more pertinent and less ambiguous? There are only a couple of verses that deal with the issue:

    "If one of your men is unclean because of a nocturnal emission, he is to go outside the camp and stay there. But as evening approaches he is to wash himself, and at sunset he may return to the camp." (Deut 23:10-11)

    "When a man has an emission of semen, he must bathe his whole body with water, and he will be unclean till evening. Any clothing or leather that has semen on it must be washed with water, and it will be unclean till evening. When a man lies with a woman and there is an emission of semen, both
    must bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening." (Lev 15:16-18).

    My thoughts on this is that the act itself is inherently no big deal, but as the OP pointed out great care must be taken not to fall into sin.

  • stuartandabby@xanga

    We agree, more or less.

    However, understand that those who disagree with you will do so strongly.  Some people think that how things work for them is the case for everyone.

    Also, if someone can see what you're saying but still feels guilty, I don't think they should do it.

  • naphtali_deer@xanga
  • musterion99@xanga

    @NoHeroesForTomorrow@xanga - See my first comment about a blank mind.

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