Sunday, 26 July 2009

  • Looking at Porn is Unacceptable in God's Eyes

    It's okay for a married man to look at porn. Better that he does that then cheats. Who cares as long as he's coming home to his wife, then they both benefit! It's not like he knows the girl, so it's okay. Besides men don't think about things emotionally, it's just entertainment to them!

    These are the things people have been telling me in the past 24 hours. These women are wrong! I would like to define what cheating is! There are 4 things you need to ask yourself to know if what you're doing is cheating.  I know men are not the only one with this problem but I will address them because I caught my husband looking at porn yesterday.

    1) What does God say about it?
       - (Matthew 5:28) But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Porn WILL effect your relationship with God. It will make it very difficult to become closer to Him. 

    2) How do I feel about it?
       - If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's probably a duck. In other words if it feels wrong it probably is. And will it be enough? Or will you get to the point that to satisfy your lust you need to cheat?

    3) What will other people think?
       - We spend all our lives trying not to care what others think but the truth is, it matters. Will it dishonor your wife? Will it cause others to stumble in the Lord? Will it dishonor you?

    4) How will your wife feel?

    - I'll tell you. No matter what you say she will feel worthless. She is no longer the only women in the world to have this special intimate relationship with you.  Now she is, in a way, sharing you with strangers -- lots of strangers. You are supposed to love her and only want HER naked! She's supposed to be the only women who turns you on! But now any women will do. There's something wrong with her.  She's not attractive enough for you, not good enough. You need someone else to turn you on just to be able to sleep with her. Who are you thinking about when you're with her? Where did you learn that? Did you watch another women do it.  She's worthless. She's nothing. All the love she has to give cant compare to a stranger's perfect body.
      - Did you hide it? Did you lie? How can she ever trust you with anything now? Are you cheating? Will you? How will she get through this? 

    What do you do now?

     Be honest - It will be SOOOOO much harder on her if she finds out on her own.  Be quiet - let her yell! She needs to get it out! 
    Be gentle - Don't get defensive or mad at her for yelling at you, she's hurting. Be understanding - let her know that her feelings are justified.
    Be loving - Hold her (if she'll let you) tell her how much she means to you and that you love her so much you're going to do what it takes to stop so you can be close again.
     Be apologetic - Don't just say it once; let her know you're truly sorry for hurting her.
    After things calm down make her feel sexy so she knows there is nothing wrong with her, but don't try to have sex with her until she's ready; you'll just make her feel like one of the girls in your porn.

    Most importantly, seek God. Constantly ask him to help! God knows everything and he truly loves you and wants to help.  He can help her understand and help you work it out.

Comments (126)

  • yourkbear@xanga

    My husband and I have struggled with this for our whole marriage. He finally seems to be able to stop himself from watching it. Then again...I've thought that before.

  • cornyonacob@xanga

    you used the wrong affect.
    as a result, this post is not having much effect on me... :\
    (well, i'm a sixteen year old girl so...)

  • whataboutbahb@xanga

    Modern Christianity views on sexuality can be ridiculous at times.

    And your points 2-4 (well only 4 since you decide to extrapolate how you feel on an issue to how all women feel on a issue) are huge logic fails. If you don't understand why they are, any further explanation by myself will probably not be too helpful.

  • Job_One_21@xanga

    @whataboutbahb@xanga - You very obviously have no clue what you're talking about.  But seeing as you're a man who is obviously not a Christian, that shouldn't be surprising.

  • theacematt2@xanga

    @whataboutbahb@xanga - @Job_One_21@xanga - I'd be interested to hear more of an exchange on these opinions/ideas?

  • too_pretty_to_die@xanga

    sorry, but as a woman i have no problem with men looking at porn.  it doesn't make me feel unloved, unattractive, or unwanted.  it doesn't make me trust him any less.  looking at pictures and watching movies is not equal to actually going out and physically cheating, or ignoring your wife. 

    you're pretty arrogant to assume that you know how all women feel.  

  • theacematt2@xanga
  • Theophilus166@xanga

    @whataboutbahb@xanga - Even if #2-4 aren't universal or convincing, if #1 is true, the other ones simply don't matter.  I'd say points 2-4 are solid supporting arguments, even if the issue doesn't stand or fall on them individually.

    An elaboration on modern Christian views of sexuality as being "ridiculous" would also be helpful.

  • snapeful@xanga

    hear hear!

    women have self esteem issues.

  • too_pretty_to_die@xanga

    @theacematt2@xanga - thank you :) i'm just tired of men assuming that all women are irrationally self-conscious and insecure.  i don't need to feel like i am the only woman my man desires... i've seen some gorgeous women in the movies and at the mall.  and i'm sure that, if he was single, he'd love to get with one of them.  but what matters is that he doesn't, not that he has those thoughts to begin with.  if you can't trust the person you're with, you shouldn't be with him. 

    conversely, the women who are against men watching porn are usually the ones gushing over a shirtless Johnny Depp or Daniel Craig.  it's hypocritical.  

  • deepestrecesses

    I'm a guy, so I know people wouldn't expect me to say this... but I suggest getting counseling from a Christian counselor. 


    I've seen marriages destroyed because the man got caught once looking at porn, and the woman was unable to come to terms with the husband.


    This is a hard time, I know, but know that our Father is greater than all and there is a great hope found in Him.

  • turnyalightsdownlow@xanga

    some couples use it as a tool to help better their intimacy. some women view it to help them explore themselves. yeah you're right it can be a bad thing but i also know married couples who it's helped.

  • Ex_Adyto_Cordis@xanga

    @Job_One_21@xanga - That sounds very close-minded of you. Why not explain instead of empy accusations, name-calling and insults?

  • Ex_Adyto_Cordis@xanga

    I'm agnostic so I won't comment about the religious side of it.


    I don't mind porn. My boyfriend and I watch it sometimes; it gives us ideas for positions, turns us on, involves us both instead of one sneaking away from the other.

  • kidzandK9z@xanga

    You know I dont think that you have the authority to tell someone how to act inside of "their" marriage. I do understand that porn can be very detrimental to some couples, but if both partners are in agreeance, then that should be fine.

  • s_a_r_a_h_1@xanga
  • JadaFish@xanga

    good post! I agree with everything! Watching Porn is absolutely unacceptable in God's eyes and Christians should never be involved with it!

  • whataboutbahb@xanga

    @Job_One_21@xanga - 

    Point #2 tries to invoke reason based merely off an emotional response. Does being raised Amish make watching TV a sin just because you feel guilty while doing it? Rationalizing what should or should not be done (or what is right or wrong) based on an emotional response is a horrible idea.

    Point #3 Appeal to public opinion.

    Point #4 Assuming just because the author feels a certain way about something, everyone else will feel the same way as well.

    Please elaborate on why you think I have no clue on what I'm talking about.

  • whataboutbahb@xanga

    @Theophilus166@xanga - 

    Completely agree if #1 holds true, #2-4 do not matter. I would not give them credit as solid supporting arguments though. #4 could be, but only as applied on an individual basis and not based on OP's feelings as applied to every single other christian wife out there.

    Maybe ridiculous was too strong of a word to use (or at least somewhat inappropriate considering I should be aware of the audience reading my comments on here). This is somewhat of a tangential argument, but the ridiculous comment was more directed at how Christianity in America basically preaches people to be terrified of one's sexuality. Not really what this post was about, so somewhat of an unwarranted response. This post just reminded me of that mindset.

    Would be interested in hearing your thoughts on if sins "committed in the heart" are the equivalent of sins actually committed. (If you don't want to bog down this post with something that is a little off-topic, though pretty relevant to #1, just pm me). 

  • Omelettes@xanga

    It's not a simple matter of porn being bad or whatever.  The thing is, for many people it is physically impossible not to look at porn for extended periods of time, particularly in this day and age in which the Internet is not only readily available and widely used but is more and more becoming a necessity.  And it goes without saying that the odds of an individual browsing the Internet regularly over any significant period of time and not encountering links to a pornographic website are virtually zero.  And for the individuals who are inclined to become addicted, just telling them what they're doing is wrong doesn't help.

    It's an annoying thing to get tangled up in, yes, but better to live your life okay with who you are (thus not limiting yourself and your opportunities, thus enabling you to become a more useful person overall) than to go through it hating yourself for shortcomings that quite frankly you cannot overcome.

    Humans are not bad people.  We are not wretched, sinful beings worthy only of hatred and scorn.  We have tendencies that we'd be better off without, sure, but to say that we aren't meant to be what we are, to despise our own nature, implies that our Creator made a mistake, which certainly isn't the case.  It is this free-thinking Christian's opinion that to despise one's own human nature is nothing short of blasphemy against the One who gave it to him.

  • shy_and_sad@xanga

    God has wars, famines, torture to worry about. News Bulletin. He does NOT care about people's sex lives. Stop obsessing about it. He doesn't.

  • turnyalightsdownlow@xanga
  • Amarisa@xanga

    Personally, I would feel unloved and unattractive if my husband were to view porn.  If it was just once, I would chalk it up to curiosity, but if it became habitual, I would be distraught.  But, like others have said before me, not everyone would feel that way, but I would wonder if they take monogamy seriously.

  • Babylons_Crowing@xanga

    I should probably preface this with the I'm not really Christian, I'm sort of slowly re-becoming Christian, it's a long story. 

    I think there's a deeper problem with porn than mental infidelity.  Though, I can understand how some may feel that way, and you really can't take issue with someone having an emotional response to an emotionally charged issue.  I struggle with watching porn myself.

    The issue with porn, for me at least, is the injustice of it.  The transformation of humans into products.  There is a lot of back-door sleaze going on with porn, and in reality it's just a hairsbreadth away (if even at all distinguishable) from prostitution.  There is an underlying theme in much of porn that it's okay to treat people as objects.  It's subjugation, and watching it solidifies in the mind the notion of the acceptability of this fact.  To pay for it, is to put money in the hands of those who treat their fellows as property to be bartered.

  • sarahzthoughts@xanga

    @Babylons_Crowing@xanga - I was going to say something to that effect, but your comment was much more articulate and brilliant than what I had come up with. And what's so great about it is that you don't have to be a Christian to follow that logic. While the issue of what constitutes as infidelity is debatable between believers and non-believers, your assessment of what the porn industry actually does is right on.

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