Wednesday, 01 July 2009

  • Are Mormons Christians?

    I just graduated from a Christian high school. In that school, I had three friends who were Mormons. They considered themselves Christians, but from everything that I had been taught, Mormons are not Christians but only people who use some of the Bible sometimes. I noticed that these people were a lot nicer then a lot of the other people at my school and also seemed to be more serious in their relationship with Christ.

    I made friends with one of them so I started asking him what he believes in regard to Jesus and God. He told me that He believed that Jesus died on the cross to die for our sins and that God raised Him to life on the third day. He said that He has accepted Jesus as his personal saviour and believes that God raised Him from the dead.

    This boggled me. I wasn't sure if I could say he was a Christian or not because he was a Mormon, but he seemed like he was right on. The only difference to the story of the cross is that he does not believe in the trinity. He believes that God the Father, the Son of God, and the Holy Spirit are three different beings and are not one.

    Are Mormons Christians?

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  • HeartOfPandora@xanga

    @oeshpdog2@xanga - Just because a name has changed here and there doesn't mean the ideas aren't still the same.  They're called denominations - just small discrepancies in the base belief.  Those differences don't make one denomination any less Christian than another.

    FYI, I'm not offended, I'm not even Christian - no matter how you define it.  I be Pagan.
  • oeshpdog2@xanga

    @HeartOfPandora@xanga - Actually...the different denominations have larger doctrinal differences than you might think.  The difference between a Catholic and most any other denomination is quite large due to the Catholic belief in a Pope etc.  Too much space is need to get into denominational history, but I now have yet another topic for my blog on Blogger. :)  
  • HeartOfPandora@xanga

    @oeshpdog2@xanga - Well they didn't start out that way haha.  But you know what?  This is a perfect example of Christian Evolution LOL.
  • Pass_the_Aura@xanga

    There is an excellent (long) article listing verses from the Bible and ways in which Mormon teachings differ at this link.

    These aren't small cosmetic differences (such as between most denominations) but fundamental differences in conceptions of God, Jesus, the Bible, sin, and salvation by God's grace alone.

    The author recommends you memorize all these verses. You could do worse.
  • oeshpdog2@xanga

    @HeartOfPandora@xanga - It is more about a truth that was written by the Apostle Peter coming true.  The history of the Church is fascinating and somewhat sad when you see what happened and why denominations came into existence.  Those stories and facts are not studied in this day and age. 
  • too_pretty_to_die@xanga

    ... doesn't all of this fall under the category of judging?

    there was a time when Lutherans were not considered Christian by the majority.  same goes for Anabaptists.  in the present day, i hear Protestants say that Catholics aren't Christian.  what gives you the authority to rule on the Christian-ness of another group you probably know nothing about?  last i checked, the only thing you need to be classified as Christian is a belief that Jesus Christ was the Son of God and died for everyone's sins.  everything else is theological baggage.
  • Peter

    Most Christian churches base their religion on bible teachings. The Mormon church is based on revelation from Jesus Christ. However, we do teach and learn many important truths from  the bible. We are fortunate that the scriptures found in the bible have been preserved for us so well. 


    However, at no time in the history of the world did God lead his church through the words of dead prophets, but always used live ones. Whenever prophets disapeared, the people resorted to the dead ones and drifted away from the true doctrine. Then they could not accept the live ones but tried to kill them.


    You can put a dead prophet up on a pedestal and make him more than human. You cannot do that with the live ones. Christ said  "A prophet is not without honor accept in his own country and household."
  • Rain_of_Mystic_Sorrow@xanga

    "They considered themselves Christians, but from everything that I had
    been taught, Mormons are not Christians but only people who use some of
    the Bible sometimes    ."

    This can apply to pretty much every Christian I have ever met.  You exclude Mormons which means you must have some standard of what a "true" Christian is. Pray tell, what might that be?  Did you consider that there are thousands and thousands of various Christian sects throughout the world and even in this country all of whom believe slightly to drastically different things about divinity, Biblical teachings and the afterlife, not to mention what it takes to be saved?  This question is ridiculous on all counts.  If someone calls themselves a Christian, who are you to argue with them?  If Mormons are not Christians then an awful lot of other denominations must not be Christians either and have fun trying to figure out which one is the 'right' one.
  • Theophilus166@xanga

    It's not my job to determine who will be saved by the blood of Christ and who won't.  It is, however, my job to speak out against false teachings.  There are a LOT in Mormon theology.  Will it keep them from heaven?  I don't know.  But I will continue to expose the errant theology, and recommend that Christians seeking biblical teaching stay far away from Mormon teachings.
  • gabrielpeter@xanga

    Nope.
  • deepestrecesses

    @Power_Ranger_Freak@xanga - I agree.


    And No, they are not.  Rarely will I make a blatant statement about an entire group that excludes them from Christ, however, in this case, once you dive into their religion in greater depth than just their innitial statements, they are a completely different "gospel" than that which Christ brought.  Paul in Galatians (ch5?) that "anyone who brings a different gospel that that which we have brought, let him be cursed", the "gospel" that they claim to have recieved from Joseph Smith is no gospel at all. 


    Again, rarely would I make this definitive statement, however, "Christian" does not include everyone who says that they believe in Christ, but those who live in Christ.

  • Pickwick12@xanga

    @J_Goldens_Shadow@xanga - Thanks for the info. At no point in this lifetime will I agree, but I am always up for encountering a new perspective and learning how we differ.

    The verses at this site explain what I believe in more detail, as does my blog site. Thanks again for the response.
  • FreeeVerse@xanga

    @Pass_the_Aura@xanga - I reaaaaaaaally like you and your wisdom. ;) Thanks. 
  • sugartomyhoney@xanga

    @yourkbear@xanga - Jehovah Witnesses are not Christians either.  They do not believe in the divinity of Christ, only that he was a good teacher.
    @james_pinato@xanga - Satan and his demons believe in Christ but they are not Christians, you won't see them in heaven.  What you speak of is head knowledge, not heart knowledge.  You can belief he existed or exists, but that doesn't make you a Christian.  You have to believe that he died for your sins, paid the price you should have paid, accept Him as your Savior, not work to try to save yourself.
  • yourkbear@xanga

    @sugartomyhoney@xanga - I think people who think they know who is a "real" Christian and who isn't are the ones in the wrong. Just like Jehovah's Witnesses. They think they are the only true Christians. But they are wrong just the same as every other judgmental Christian.
  • J_Goldens_Shadow@xanga

    @Pickwick12@xanga - What is so difficult about seeing just how unchangable God really is? What I have seen is that mainstream Christianity has changed Him and the Gospel of Jesus Christ to be a gospel of convenience. Where are the prophets? Where are the Apostles? Where is the Church that Jesus Himself set up? And how can we know? Questions that everyone who seeks God must ask themselves.
  • Pickwick12@xanga

    @J_Goldens_Shadow@xanga - The authority for my faith is the Bible. I believe God still speaks, and anything He says is in agreement with Scripture and will never contradict it. So any belief that doesn't agree with Scripture is not ever going to work for me.
  • naphtali_deer@xanga

    Mormons require good works for salvation (as opposed to the salvation being the gift of God by grace through faith, with good works flowing from our salvation) and they do not believe that Christ atoned for sin on the cross. For example, see here.

    For there is no distinction: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. 27 Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. Romans 3:22-28.

    He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. I Peter 2:24
  • Pcgecko85@xanga

    Mormon's beliefs are more ridiculous than Christianity's. (which isn't saying much)
  • MC_Shann@xanga

    TO EVERYONE WHO COMMENTS HERE:


    Are Mormons Christian? No....


    Here is a fantastic summary of what they believe.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBy38yhNEJk


    Except for the names everything completely different....

  • Pashe@xanga

    Mormonism is to Christianity as to Arianism is to the ancient church.

    Mormonism is an offshoot of Christianity but I am not sure it is.

    p
  • musterion99@xanga

    There's so many other Mormon teachings that are wrong. They believe satan and Jesus were spiritual brothers. They believe that God the father used to be a man. They believe the church was apostate until the Mormon church was formed. And there's so much more besides this. I suggest reading a good book explaining the false teachings of Mormonism or find a website. In saying all that, if a Mormon didn't understand all the false doctrines of Mormonism and had true faith in Jesus, then they could be saved, but the bible does warn us about people teaching a different Jesus and different gospel than the bible teaches. Mormons believe the bible but they also believe that the book of Mormon and their Doctrine and Covenants are equal or more authoritive than the bible.
  • blufrogz37@xanga

    I don't think Mormons are Christian. You don't get to pick and choose what scriptures to follow.

    I was baptised and raised in Catholic home, so I could be wrong...

    At the same time, I think 99% of Christians (Protestants, Catholics, Baptists, etc...) get hung up on divisions in religion, and religious practices --  and that in it's own way -- undermines what God in the Old Testament and Jesus Christ in the New Testament was trying to get across to people everywhere on this planet...and until we learn to settle our misunderstandings with each other....we're going to be grasping for truth and understanding for a very long time to come.

    It doesn't matter to me what you believe...it does matter to our Lord, Jesus Christ. 

  • SamEwing@xanga

    Far be it for me to tell them what they are or aren`t
  • y_tc@xanga

    No, they're so not.

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