Tuesday, 30 June 2009

  • Do Christians Think That They're PeЯfect People?

    A few days ago I passed a church near my house. Outside, on the church’s lawn, there is a banner that reads: “No Perfect People Allowed.” The ‘P’ in Perfect spelled backwards. I smiled at this, as it resonated a great and inherent truth. And I greatly appreciated the perceptive and shrewd theology behind it. I don’t know this church’s denomination nor doctrine, I didn’t look. But it hardly matters because both are irrelevant. Instead, what does matter is that the banner made me recognize the value in understanding one of the greatest principles of Christianity. Whoever created that slogan has abundantly grasped and fathomed a meaningful understanding of that principle. What’s more, that person is aware of how, over time, the images connected with Christianity have been comprised, tainted, and construed.

    There is a long-standing label (and with just reasoning) that Christians think they are somehow, “Perfect People.” Similarly, those so-called, stuck-up "Perfect" persons, tend to think anyone not a Christian is a hell-bent heathen. Unfortunately, this attitude indeed, has been ignorantly practiced and lived out by far too many self-proclaimed Christians, who have facilitated in this stereotype becoming the terrible misrepresentation of Christ, as opposed to the exaggerated actions of a pompous select few.  And quite frankly its sickening, and needs to be addressed.

    Among many “religious” circles there seems to have always exist a mentality of “I’m right, you’re wrong,” or “My beliefs are right, and yours aren’t.” Well truth be told, that’s all wrong. Every bit of it. Sadly, it’s still too often the case and in addition to that fallacy, generations of new believers continue to be cultivated and brought up with a sense of holy entitlement—that somehow they are better than everyone, when in reality, they’re no better (if not worse) than anyone.

    There’s an extremely negative view of Christianity because of the often inevitable condescending conversations to ensue when someone who doesn’t believe in Christ is addressed about their beliefs. “I’m better than you and if you don’t convert right now, you’re going to hell!”  —Yet we have the audacity to even wonder why this animosity and resent towards Christians exists! It's pitiful that that sort of behavior has been condoned and widely accepted as truth. I can only speak for myself and those I’ve personally held conversations with, but if someone told me I’m a terrible person, it’s hard to believe I’d be very interested in anything else they have to say after that. I'd be a little disenchanted with the idea. In fact, I wouldn't listen at all. Seems obvious doesn’t it? And where does someone, anyone, get off making a claim/judgment like that? Nevertheless, so many Christians become enamored by this farce, adopting this false doctrine to the point of believing that “being saved”, means “being perfect.” News flash: It’s time to smell rotting corpse of that sentiment. No where in the Bible has is ever said such a thing, rather the Bible explicitly denounces those acts.

    Let's try this on for size: “Hi, I’m a Christian, and I’m a terrible person.” Now that’s the type of straightforward introduction we really need to say and hear and live out through grace. Jesus wasn’t proud. Jesus was humble. Being a Christian does not make us lord of others, it means we have humbled and submitted ourselves to Christ and recognized that he is our Father. It means that because we've experienced a rebirth of our lives that's so amazing, we can't help want to share it with others, so they too can partake in our jubilation.

    Christians are not better than anyone, we are terrible people too, spared only by the grace of God. Who in their own self-righteousness is worthy to judge others? No one. As the the well-known verse goes "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." It's so pinnacle and yet so overlooked.

    There are no perfect people. The sooner that’s realized, even by something as simple as seeing it hung from a banner on a church lawn, the sooner we will realize as Christians, what kind of people we are, and what kind of people we should aspire to be.

    The kind of people we are, is sinners. We are all sinners. But you know what else? We’re saved too—washed clean by the blood of Jesus dying on the cross. So if you really dig deep, a clergyman and a serial rapist are both standing on the same ground.  They’re both sinners, they’ve both been forgiven by Jesus, and they’re both loved by him, too. And so am I, and so are you, and so is every other imperfect person on this earth.

    As for the kind of people we should be, we should be men and women of God. The serial rapist is clearly not following what God desires, but too often, neither is the clergyman. Sometimes they're the same person. Get this though: in spite of those faults (and this is the great thing about God) He never gives up on us, never lets us out of his sight, never stops loving us, He knows that we can change and live a life that honors Him. As long as we continue to pursue Him, though we’ll falter and screw up daily, no matter how many times we do, we’ll still be following what He wants and desires from us in order to be his disciples. We'll still be living in grace. What it means to be a Christian is to always maintain our focus on Christ, trusting Him to guide our life, and filling us with His Spirit. It is not our duty to ‘convert,’ it is our duty to love. It is not our duty to pass judgment, it is our duty to show compassion to those around us so that they may feel God’s presence by the infinite impact He has had on our lives. He, and He alone is the only one who can change someone’s heart. Let Him handle the hard stuff, after all, He’s God. I’m sure he can handle it.

    Love, compassion, forgiveness, repentance, rinse and repeat. Leave the judgment and the perfection up to God.

Comments (27)

  • noree_n@xanga

    i dont just THINK that im not perfect.
    I KNOW it.

  • gabrielpeter@xanga

    Hey, how'd you do that funky thing with the "R"?

  • SailorMoonOtaku@xanga

    I really liked this. I agree with everything you said.

  • CrystalWatersAndClearBlueSkyes@xanga

    I agree with your blog! I mean, if we were perfect, there would be no point in having a Father as loving as Him. And I have seen signs like that outside of churches and they made me smile.. And It would be alot easier to approach a non-Christian and start a conversation that could lead to sharing a Message when your not looking down at them. Christians are suppose to be like Christ, ready to talk to anyone. Plus a Christian's sin is just as bad as a Non-Christian's sin. Right?

  • prettyboy78@xanga

    I know Christians that would like to think they are perfect, but I also know non-Christians that are the same way. They ones I personally know that think they are perfect, think so regardless of their religion but the Christians carry themselves different. Nobody is perfect and the sooner we all learn this the better we will all be. 

  • Strong_Protector@xanga

    I agree too.  Too often Christians believe that they are the author of their good works and salvation.  But the Bible is very clear that the only reason we do good works is because the Holy Spirit does them through us.  We only stop sinning (or have a desire to) because God graciously gives us the desire and strength to stop so we can be sanctified and live with Him forever.  Christians need to realize that our salvation and any goodness that comes out of us only comes out of us because the Holy Spirit is gracious and is making us into a new creation.   

  • rabbi_cowboy@xanga

    The spirit redeemed and given by God is perfect. 1 John 3:9 says "he that is born of God can not sin". Jesus also said John 3:6 "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." So there for the spirit is perfect, since it is born of God. Romans 8:19,23 "For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body" John 3:2 "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is". Even when you look at me and see less than perfect or even I look at me and see less than perfect. God looks at me and sees perfect in his son Yeshua and that is all that matters. 

  • bentbrokenandtorn@xanga

    A-MEN! i have always felt bonded to Paul when he said he was the worst of sinners. thank God for grace! 

  • FreeeVerse@xanga
  • cornyonacob@xanga

    someone should show this to Fred Phelps.

  • cubanstyle125@xanga

    Awsome! so true those perfect so called christians just push other people away. And how are those peolpe going to want to become a christian or believe in God when they see someone so mean, they wont want to get close to God. And a true christian loves all human beings just like Jesus does, there are no difference.

  • Passionflwr86@xanga

    Congrats on being featured here, friend. You already know my thoughts on this...

  • deepestrecesses

    @rabbi_cowboy@xanga - Thank you for saying all that, saved me the writing! lol


    As for the Blog: “I’m better than you and if you don’t convert right now, you’re going to hell!”-- I've never actually heard anyone (in all seriousness) say that.


    Yes, I think revelife has established and bashed the point that the organization of the Church is significantly flawed.  Are you surprised?  "For the name of God is blasphemed among the gentiles because of you". 


    How does posting this make you any more "christian" than the "high and mighties" you intended to bash?

  • onefate

    I think sometimes Christians are also misunderstood by others.  I am a Catholic and the fact that I cannot proove about the existence of one thing, it only mean that I am perfect.  I believe God is only perfect.  Otherwise, if we are then we are immortal but we are not.  We should not be persecuted just because we believe in something.  Who are we to say or are anybody has any right at all to say that we are wrong? 


    The idea about this believing and not believing is just so great that it is causing so much strife.  Other will not have an easy time to understand this that we are flawed by our mortality.  Our pea-sized brain need to understand each other which I hope everybody can get it.


    We are all sinners. But I'm thinking for others, is there such a thing as sinner as there are no rules to follow?   I am curious, if they even hurt someone, will they even feel guilty about it?  I have been hurt so badly and I don't really know if he even felt guilty about something he did to me.  I guess it does not matter anymore.  What matters to me right now is for me to be able to forgive and forget and have that courage I can only get from my own will.  If there is no will, I cannot just forget it.  Well I hope I am perfect but again nobody is.   We are all surprised by anyone's differences in beliefs.



  • zenichka@xanga

    @gabrielpeter@xanga - it's a russian letter, Я... (pronounced like "yah") - i think that was the trick.


    @CrystalWatersAndClearBlueSkyes@xanga - totally agree on the fact that if we could be perfect, then why would we need God at all? 
    re: sin of a Christian vs. sin of any other person - reading Ted Dekker's Thr3e right now and he discusses that very question there - that gossiping is as bad a sin as murder, therefore if the priest gossips, he's no better than a serial killer who killed a dozen of people. scary thought, yet true... 
    we're called to be His sons and daughters, not perfect beings. that would be boring.
  • xsteph_ox@xanga

    Although I agree with alot of what you said, this post, and alot of the recent ones on Revelife irritate me because they make generalisations about a big group of Christians based on a small number of peoples behaviour. Most of the Christians I have met are very nice people, and know they are flawed. There are very few that think they are perfect, and I've never met anyone who told someone they were going to hell if they didn't convert. Of course we believe thats the consequence of a life without Christ but its not the best way to draw someone in if you care about them. I would be lying if I said I haven't met a few smarmy Christians who think they know better than everyone else and rub it in your face, but no mature Christian would try and make someone else feel inferior, or actually believe they are perfect. Their was only one perfect one and that was Jesus!

  • AndrenSairr

    "Among many “religious” circles there seems to have always exist a
    mentality of “I’m right, you’re wrong,” or “My beliefs are right, and
    yours aren’t.” Well truth be told, that’s all wrong. Every bit of it."

    I agree that the "I'm right and you're wrong" mentality is pushed by people on points that it shouldn't be (such as those without clear scriptural direction). But two mutually exclusive statements cannot both be true. Even Jesus used exclusive language. If I Jesus came earth to die for the sins of all men (as I happen to believe), then the person that believes otherwise is wrong; there is no two ways about it. That said, I'd not open a conversation with such a statement.

    “Hi, I’m a Christian, and I’m a terrible person."
    This isn't humility, this is self-deprecation.

  • JUSTAVAPORHERE@xanga

    I think it's not so much the "I'm perfect" attitude I've seen as it is the "I'm holier than thou" attitude that really bothers me. That's why I always say we need to tell others about our struggles, our faults, our shortcomings. Other people need to know that we are not perfect, not holier than thou. The Bible says there is none good, not one, that we are all as filthy rags and all have gone astray. People don't need to hear about how perfect we think we are, they need to see and hear about how short we fall. They need to know that God did not promise us a smooth journey but rather as someone said one promised a trip worth the journey. There is NOTHING more annoying to me, as a Christian, than being around a Christian who thinks they are perfect, but I might add, it's not just amongst Christians! It's amongst all denominations!

  • CrystalWatersAndClearBlueSkyes@xanga
  • morbidxshadows@xanga
    I don’t believe that all Christians believe that they are perfect. Some do try to act “holier art thou,” but many do not. I don’t think it’s a matter of religious belief but a matter of who they are. The act of being “holier art thou” is just the same act of arrogance that is displayed by the “non Christians” that view themselves to be better then other people.


    The point that I am trying to make is that it’s not so much the belief as the individual character. Both just use a different excuse to view themselves better then others, when in all reality we are equal.

  • Spongebeig_Lowpants@xanga

    @deepestrecesses - You're correct, I highly doubt anyone would make such a blatant statement like that. I intended for it to be more of asubconscious mentality, as opposed to literally being said. That's my fault, I should have made that more clear. Likewise, in the context of this post, I too made judgments and am guilty of exactly what I wrote against. Rereading, I am especially noticing them now that you point it out. Talkin' the talk, and walkin' the walk prove again to be completely seperate entities. I had an idea I felt may be beneficial to share with others, but I apologize for any miscommunications or generalizations that may have come across. Thanks for your comments though, they'll definitely assist me in anything of this sort I write in the future. 

  • BroadwayBound93@xanga

    @noree_n@xanga - Haha. Indeed.

    I really love this entry, though.
    Sometimes it's not just between Christians and followers of other religions.
    A lot of times it's between Christians disagreeing on very small points.
    I can admit that for a while, I could only see the people and not God, which pushed me very far away from him. How could He love me when His people were constantly preaching about how much He hates me?
    It took me a while, but I finally realized that they're just people. Just like me.
    I mean, of course not all Christians are like the ones I described. I'm just speaking of the ones that made me feel like I was an awful person in comparison.
    Every now and then, I still struggle with this, but hey.
    I'm not perfect.

  • blufrogz37@xanga

    "Hi, I'm Christian and I'm a sinner."

  • with_chafafa_on_the_side@xanga
  • clarajae@xanga

    Fantastic post. A lot of Christians I have met DO have the mentality that they're more holy, or can't possibly sin as much. In fact, a lot of them look down on me for associating with non-christians and going to parties and what not. So yes, I totally agree that that kind of attitude turns off Christians and non-believers. However, I feel that Christians have more of a moral conscience - which is supposed to be the Holy Spirit teaching and guiding us each step of the way. We are all sinners, Christian or not but it is Jesus Christ's blood has sanctified us and saved us. The problem is that non-Christians EXPECT us to be perfect.

    "Wow, you're supposed to be Christian how can you say/do this/that etc...?"

    Well, Christians are NOT perfect, no one is. I think people don't understand that Christians are just as human and we sin just as much. And I think that some non-believers take the fact that we mess up and use it against us. This bugs me just as much as the 'holier than thou' attitude.

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