@NaitoOfNarnia@xanga - In other words you can't read.
Should have stayed in school. =]

@lovechartreuse@xanga - I did actually, and graduated with my diploma. If you're going to try to insult me, at least do it in a way that makes sense. Obviously, I couldn't reply if I didn't learn how to read.

@too_pretty_to_die@xanga - So you disagree. Okay. What you're stating now is nothing more than an opinion. What we're looking for here is the truth.
Also, I never said that if evolution was true that it would allow entirely different species to mate.

@NaitoOfNarnia@xanga - Exactly. If the truth were to be known, it wouldn't be the truth. Or so they say...I don't know, I haven't given up everything to search for the truth...heh...

@Faerie_In_Combat_Boots@xanga - That made absolutely NO sense. "If the truth was known, it wouldn't be the truth." WHAT? So if I was blind, and didn't know the truth about what the color green looked like, would green stop being green? If I didnt know what 2+2 was, later learned it was four, would it suddenly become 5? Because if I suddenly learn the truth about something, then, according to what you said, it is no longer the truth. So it must become something else. But if that's the truth about truth, then upon learning that ABOUT truth, then it no longer is the truth, but instead something else. But to know that that is the truth - as you said - that truth about truth is no longer truth. You JUST created a circular, self-defeating logic that never made sense to begin with.

What I am gong to GUESS - I make no conclusions about what you actually think - is that you don't want to actually accept the fact that there ARE absolute truths in the world that NEVER change.
A basic truth is that which something is at that moment. One moment a wall is white - true. The next moment, after it is painted, it is blue - true. The truth about the color of the wall changed from moment to the next. But unless the color black was involved, it could never be said the wall was black - also true. Even in transition, the wall was, for a time, both blue AND white - true again. As stated, the truth about the color of the wall changed, but it was never something that it wasn't. Meaning that if I said that a white wall is blue, but I haven't even so much as touched blue paint to the wall, then that is not true.

An absolute truth NEVER changes. This often includes morality and various matters of science, and other things that escape my mind at the moment.
History, itself, cannot change. We can write ABOUT history and SAY that something different happened, but the truth is that what happened in the past DID happen and that cannot be changed. It is true that you and I were born. No matter who accepts or denies that, no matter what the medical records say, we both are here. Those events of our births happened. That will ALWAYS be true.
Even the concept of truth, itself, can never change. It's very definition is rooted IN itself. As I stated before, truth IS what IS. It does not change simply because we discover what IS true. Otherwise, you could never discover what was true before you knew it was the truth, and as a result, your own statement about truth is a self-contradiction.
(Forgive some of the redundant statements. Sometimes I have to "wind" myself up to get to my next point.)

@Faerie_In_Combat_Boots@xanga - "It's not supposed to make sense...that' the point..."
You have JUST defeated your entire argument with one sentence. Because, once again, you're stating that as truth, but you said that truth changes.
Also, God does NOTchange at all in the Bible. That is a common misunderstanding. So your logic, I'm sad to say, is based on a faulty foundation to begin with.

II + II = IIII Nope, still four.

And I read that link about Oshu...what he stated, is, again, his idea about truth...but then he goes on to say what he thinks is true, but he just say you can't KNOW truth by thinking about it. It's a self-defeating argument because to state what he just said, he had to be thinking about what he "knows" to be true. Truth does not simply disappear because you learn about it, nor does reality go away because you're watching it happen.

@Faerie_In_Combat_Boots@xanga - Well, all I hear you trying to say is that somehow, 2+2=4 while also equalling 5. That is nothing short of a simple, logical contradiction. There's no other way around it.

@Faerie_In_Combat_Boots@xanga - But that's not freedom. That's confusion. To suggest that one thing can be equal to two other complete contradictory things makes absolutely no sense. To be honest, I'm not sure where you're getting your concepts from, but those sources really need help.

@Faerie_In_Combat_Boots@xanga - No, I haven't read it. But if that's where you're getting your logic from, that explains why none of it makes sense. As per the example of truth, 2+2=4 (and not 5), "Big Brother" does know what he/it is talking about.

@NaitoOfNarnia@xanga - You totally don't get it, and that's okay. Not everybody can see past the cosmetics of a religion down to it's base. Stop making it about Jesus. EVERY religion teaches to not steal, to not hurt other people, to generally love others. EVERY religion generally teaches a positive message. The deep meaning of believing in something good, pure, etc, is to be a good, pure person yourself.

Therefore, every religion is a good one. There is no "one religion is better than another" as long as the message is positive. Because then it'd be more of what people see as a cult.

Personally, I think any belief system that teaches that it's absolutely, no-questions-asked better than another is more cultlike than religious. :)

@NaitoOfNarnia@xanga - I read the entire link. The post is simply an attempt at preaching to the choir. I was raised Catholic, I went to Christian school for a number of years, and I've read all of the Holy Books that "good" Catholics read. You're over-complicating things.

There is nothing special--theologically speaking, the values are the same as any other, just the names of the gods are changed-- about Christianity, other than the fact that historically, they converted at the tip of a sword and it stuck out of habit, through the generations. Even in your own family, the first Christian in your family was most likely converted BY FORCE. Jesus didn't preach that. Neither was prejudice in his teaching. Jesus was HUMBLE. He, himself, never demonized other religions like the Old Testament did, or do Fundamentalist Christians.

If Jesus didn't do as such... why do his followers? Why must you be so rabid that you can't grace me with a real response, rather than simply insisting I'm wrong and changing the entire subject through preaching?

You, as a Christian, believe in your gods' divine presence in all things, do you not? So do Pagans, Wiccans, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, the list goes on. You, as a Christian, believe that everyone can feel your gods' presence and allow him to guide you. So do Pagans, Wiccans, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, the list goes on.

A number of religions promise
the same thing: salvation, unity with their god(s), forgiveness for not
being perfect in life--yet having a chance to perfect their spirit.
Every god, in every religion loves humanity. No worshiped god wants to
see the world destroyed by us because in EVERY religion, we are the
gods' children. You believe in an afterlife in which you are reunited with your diety. So does every other religion.

So, other than the fact that you, yourself, are a Christian... what in the world makes you think your religion is better, when it's fundamentally the same as every other? Why do you seemingly hate so much, when your god preaches about love and acceptance, other than the fact you think that Jesus died for your sins, and you'll be forgiven... so you can be as prejudiced as you want because your slate will be wiped clean? Because from all MY Christian learning, that's not a very Christian thing to do.

I have a reason to dislike most Christians: they are very unaccepting of any experiences that aren't their own. Many Pagans have no problem going to Christmas Mass with their family because they can see beyond proper nouns and feel the spirit of the servace: Peace on Earth, Goodwill towards Mankind, Love your fellow humans because Divinity loves you equally.....  but would any Christian come see one of my Yuletide Prayer Circles? Not many. With so many people telling Christians "We'll have to agree to disagree on religion," why can't Christians accept other religions as valid ways of life as well? Why are ya'll so quick to say "Nope. You're wrong, wrong WRONG!" when those of other religions typically say "I personally believe something else; however, I won't try to convince you that you're wrong and I accept that it's your belief system."