Friday, 22 May 2009

  • Pre-Engagement Counseling: Wise or Weird?

    by Sharon Hodde of SheWorships

    This past weekend my fiancé and I attended a retreat for engaged couples who are preparing for marriage. At the beginning of the weekend we were presented with information about our culture’s stance toward marriage, and we heard one statistic that I found particularly compelling:

    90% of American young people believe that premarital counseling is a good thing to do, but only about 35% would actually consider doing it.

    I was not given a source for this statistic so I honestly have no way of verifying its accuracy, but based upon my own experience I am not surprised. I have talked to a lot of couples, Christian and non-Christian, who respond warmly to the idea of other people doing premarital counseling, but when faced with the option to do it themselves, they opt out. Why? Because it sounds good, but not necessary. Only couples with “big problems” need that stuff.

    I think this decision stems from two different causes–gross naiveté on the part of the couple, or flat-out denial. Either they have no idea how hard marriage is, or they have some inkling that their relationship isn’t healthy but they don’t want to deal with it. They’ve already decided to get married, they’ve paid for the food and the band, and there’s no turning back.

    That’s why some churches have begun offering pre-engagement counseling. At first I thought this was a weird idea–as a single person, even a dating person, I actively avoided talking and thinking about marriage. No need to count my chickens before they’ve hatched, right? I was attempting to guard my imagination, and more importantly my heart.

    The problem with my thought process was that it underestimated the momentum of the wedding planning process. Once you begin planning a wedding it’s like you get on board a giant locomotive and there’s no way to stop it. Had I realized that Ike was not the man for me, I cannot imagine the pain and hardship of canceling the wedding, or even just delaying it. Aside from the financial loss, it would be humiliating and emotionally devastating. In the short-term, it would seem much easier to just go through with it.

    Which is why it’s so important for young couples to begin seeking godly counsel BEFORE the train gets going. Married couples already have the odds stacked against them, so given the soaring divorce rates you’d think engaged couples would be sobered into seeking every resource possible. When one in two marriages fail, doesn’t it make sense to ensure that you’re NOT on the wrong side of the statistics? Wouldn’t you rather do the hard work of confronting your issues and asking the tough questions before you get married, instead of hoping for the best?

    Unfortunately, this type of reasoning rarely takes place during engagement. While some couples DO break off their engagement, many choose to ignore the warning signs because they are blinded by the prospect of getting married. The end is in sight so they delude themselves into thinking that marriage will fix everything, even though marriage statistics would indicate otherwise.

    So if you are in a serious dating relationship and the topic of marriage arises, I would encourage you to seek counsel BEFORE the proposal. Prior to taking on the 300 pound gorilla that is wedding planning, make sure you’re moving forward wisely and soberly. Even in dating it is difficult to have clear vision and an objective perspective, but if you are hesitant to have an outside opinion weighing in even NOW, then that’s a red flag.

    Don’t hope for the best, don’t count on the other person to change, and don’t ignore the input of your friends and family. Breaking up with a boyfriend or fiancé is hard, but being in a bad marriage is much, much harder.

Comments (23)

  • deepestrecesses

    hmm I had never heard of counseling before you get engaged.  We did like 3 months of counseling before we got married, after we got engaged.  It was the best thing we could have possibly done, too!  Even though we had no "big problems" at the moment, it's actually helped us avoid big problems in our marriage so far.



    Interesting post.

  • XxFireXboltxX@xanga

    Wow...I agree so so much! I think my mom started talking about the importance of marriage with me when I was around 13 or 14 and how important it was to "prepare my heart" for having the attitude of a Godly wife, whether I got married or not.

    I attended lots of "young women's retreats" growing up and when I did get engaged, I felt a lot more confident about the decision to marry. So, it wasn't really "formal" counseling but, it was counseling none the less.

    I think about Titus 2:3-4: "Older
    women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious
    gossips nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good, so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children,

    to be

    sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored."

    I learned a lot from the older women at church, and I still am. I would consider that a form of counseling --- though not "formal".

    PS --- not sure what's up with the formatting in this comment...lol.

  • gabrielpeter@xanga

    I was engaged once and it was a failure.  We jumped into it rather quickly.  Considering how many people that affected, including both of our families, I would say that pre-engagement counseling would be a very good idea.

    I've not really thought about it before, but after my experience and reading about the suggestion here, I think it would be very wise.

  • artemis_tx@xanga

    I like your idea; it makes great sense.  Rarely does anyone cancel a wedding after actual plans have been made; we're told that jitters are normal, plus a lot of money has been spent and people have been told about it.  Backing out or postponing it would not only feel like a waste of money, but the couple will feel like their family and friends will judge them and see them as unable to make up their minds.  They will just go through with it, hope/pray for the best, try to make it work, and end up divorced anyway after a few miserable years.


    Those who try to avoid counseling - especially if the counseling is free or inexpensive - seem to me like they're trying to hide from something.  Would you rather not face yourself to hang onto your illusion, trying to tell yourself and the world that everything is perfect?  Wouldn't you rather face the problems so you can make your real life better?

  • thats_italian@xanga

    This is a great idea and would save a lot of heartache.  So very needed!  Good Christian parents are wonderful agents for counseling but sometimes a good solid church with same convictions has techniques for bringing underlying things out in the Light. 



  • TheGreatBout@xanga

    There should always be some form of wise counsel speaking into our relationships, no matter what level they are at. If we have wise men and women walking with us on our journey they will help us make healthy decisions at each step; from asking someone out, to when to kiss, to proposing, to counseling, to marriage, to children, to whatever.

    Official counseling won't always be needed if we have these sorts of mentors and/or wise persons involved in our lives. Though, I think premarital counseling is a MUST for any couple who wishes to succeed in faithfully loving one another for the remainder of their lives. Preengagement counseling seems like it could be more much low key.

  • EccentricSiren@xanga

    I think premarital counseling is a good idea, but pre-engagement counseling seems a little premature. 

  • Booflies@xanga

    You know, I always thought the idea of pre-engagement counseling - which I first heard of a couple of years ago - was weird. But I do find that SO many engaged couples lose track of EVERYTHING including God (very often) and even each other while planning a wedding. It does make sense that you might just push aside some warning signs or red flags!

  • forever_musing@xanga

    I wonder if pre-engagement counseling would have helped my fiance and I avoid where we are right now...
    We did have a couple meetings with his pastor, which actually propelled him to propose, but now our wedding is on permanent hold...
    =(

  • JadedJanissary@xanga

    I don't know if I woulddo it, but i can understand why you would make the argument for some people to need it.  maybe it would help make marriages last more often?

  • Mrsbear7@xanga

    Should be a requirement for every single person on the planet who gets married!!

  • mendicantmelly@xanga

    I had friends who sought out "pre-engagement counseling" and I would agree that it sounds like a great idea. My husband and I both found the same thing that you are suggesting about the wedding planning process. By the time you hit the engagement, unless something is horribly wrong, it really is almost too hard to stop things. Incidentally, even though we went through premarital counseling, we both discovered that we had already talked through most of the issues on our own. The "marriage books" we read (there were about 3 of them) weren't terribly helpful. Basically, it all boiled down to the issues of money, sex, and in-laws. If you can figure out a game plan for those 3, you're set!

  • pillowpixies@xanga

    I think it's both wise and weird. Most people (when they get engaged) don't believe that there's an issue yet. They're still in the honeymoon stage of their relationship. They think that since they're so happy now, if they ever were to need counseling, they'd wait until an actual problem were to arise.

    I think the counseling is a good idea. It can tell you how to deal with things ahead of time. There are so many people who are doing things "wrong" in relationships. Many people don't know how to settle their misunderstandings and differences once they do come up. So they argue and fight. By the end of all that they may not even want to go to get relationship help. Had they gone to counseling they would have learned how to deal with it, therefore they wouldn't have argued, therefore preventing the problem.

    Then again, there are some people who, well, things go through one ear and out the other. You could take them to counseling and they'd still think they knew more than the counselor.

  • helvetebrann@xanga

    I wish it was mandatory for all couples.  I strongly believe that most marriages end because couples are not compatible on the big issues: money, kids, stress management, etc.  Pre-martial counseling, secular and religious, helps put those items into perspective and removes the blinders that love sometimes creates.

  • walkintotheseaaa@xanga
  • anonymous

    I think pre-rngagement counseling is such a great idea! My wife and I did this before we got engaged, actually working through a book called "Before You Get Engaged". The pre-engagement process helped so much! Even to the point of helping us decide to wait to get engaged at that point because it was too early. Months later we knew we were ready and haven't looked back since.


    What I don't understand is why people WOULDN'T want to do pre-engagement work. At least reading a book specifically on pre-engagement. To me that just seems like a red flag of where the heart/desires are at. At least an orange flag.
  • anonymous

    After I got married, I realized there were a lot of things about my husband that I did not know. I think if I had known what I was getting into, I my have been scared into not getting married even though I know it was the right thing to do. Nothing can prepare you for marriage and some lessons you can only learn by experience. I say get married, hope for the best, and if you need counseling later don't let it discourage you. Marriage is wonderful, but it is also just plain HARD! I found a dating advice book that may help you find the right spouse for you. It's called Why I Love Men: The Joys of Dating. This is a must-read for anyone looking to
    find love!

  • Stephanie_J_B@xanga

    Great idea, I like your post

  • DistantStarlight@xanga

    Yes, yes! I totally agree. It's wise. It depends on the level of comfort of the couple, though. My fiancé, whom I will marry in about a week, and I had premarital counseling a couple of months before we got engaged. Our reasoning was precisely yours. If there were any reason to wait or something, it would be better to decide before everybody knew and the locomotive of wedding planning had started gathering speed down that hill. Although we figured we had nothing to worry about, we supported it so much in theory that we did it this way. But not everybody is comfortable doing this, I understand. We were serious about each other from the start so it only made perfect sense.

  • His_maidservant@xanga

    Pre-engagement counseling is a VERY important means to talk about problems and solve them pro-actively, and to make sure that everything that needs to be addressed is in the open before you commit yourself. 
    Unfortunately it doesn't mean that the relationship will definitely end in marriage, but it is a very good preparation for marriage. 

    @XxFireXboltxX@xanga -

    How wonderful it was to read your response!  Your parents were very wise to talk to you about preparing your heart early on.

  • Avoiding_Sober@xanga

    I think if given the chance I would do it. Why not? It can either help or do nothing. So why not take a chance and maybe get a little help to make the marriage better.

  • Liz

    This is a GREAT idea! I have a divorced friend who knew the engagement (and eventual marriage) was a bad idea, but she said it was like trying to stop a tsunami. Everyone was excited about the wedding and she just didn't think about the marriage itself. A great book for helping couples understand each other, and themselves, is "The Missing Link," by Drs. Arno. It doesn't mean the people person shouldn't marry the hermit -- it means each needs to understand the other, understand he/she was created in the way God intended, and how each should be happy and fulfilled, alone and with each other. It sets people free. A few earlier posters had some other great book suggestions too, I saw. Those sound like good resources as well.

  • anonymous

    I would believe those statistics. I have found that after your engaged you begin to think of many things that are going to be big problems. Whether or not you know the person, issues can still come up. Because now you are both committed to each other for FOREVER, its not just a common relationship. So things begin to set in more permanent. But I am very curious as to what retreat you attended, that idea sounds really great and I am looking for more info on that? Could you reply with some info on where, when and how much? Thanks!

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