Thursday, 26 March 2009

  • I'd Take Being a Peasant Over Being a Religious Professional

    by Clayton King

    When Jesus chose the men that would change the world, spread the news of His resurrection, and lead the movement that He began, he picked a motley crew of peasants, stinky fishermen, foul mouthed Galileans, and greedy IRS agents.  He did not include a single religious professional in His selection, though Israel was full of them.

    The Pharisees and Saducees and scribes and Rabbis would have been the most pragmatic choice for Jesus because they knew how religion worked.  They were well connected, entrenched in the community, and knew the fat cats with money who could make things happen quickly.  Their networking abilities were second to none.

    So it made no sense, to the practically minded at least, that Jesus would bypass the existing structure of religious professionals, thumbing His nose at their smugness and hand selecting the most absurd group of men He could have possibly amassed.

    But He knew something nobody else did.  The professionals were the ones that would have Him slaughtered because He challenged their system, called it a lie from Hell, and led people away from their deception.

    In preparation for my sermon on fasting at Newspring tomorrow, I have revisited Matthew 6 and the words of Jesus concerning fasting and prayer.  He said that when we fast, we should not do it like the Pharisees, but instead should do it privately without anyone noticing.  The Pharisees fasted twice a week, on Mondays and Thursdays, because there were market days; the days of the week when all Jews went to trade in the marketplace.  These two days afforded the biggest crowds for Pharisees to flaunt their piety.  They could stand on the corner and pray loudly, with their clothes disheveled and their faces disfigured and dirty.  The commoners would surely look at them, listen to them, and think how Godly they were, that they fasted and prayed so regularly!

    Jesus was not impressed with them. He called them hypocrites, because they prayed for people, not God. They fasted for themselves, not God.

    Their reward was in being seen.  Jesus would have none of that in His inner circle.  He wanted ordinary men with little or no training in religion so that He would not have to deal with the smug arrogance of professionals.  And these men turned the world upside down.

    I hope I will never become a professional.  I would rather be a peasant who has been with Jesus.

Comments (17)

  • shards_of_beauty@xanga

    Thank you for that reminder.  "A peasant who has been with Jesus" should characterize us all.

  • YouTOme@xanga

    amen.  God uses the so-called foolish things of the world to shame the so-called wise.



  • deepestrecesses

    Good post.

    I have often heard lessons (or read posts) like this.  The truth behind this kind of post is firm and unwavering- Jesus picked the people who were least likely to be picked (just like God His Father picked the people least likely to be picked).

    Although, Luke was a pretty well educated man as evident by his writing abilities in Greek, and Paul was the "Pharisee of Pharisee's", yet the important thing is to remember that the Lord picked even these educated men, not because of their education, but because of their hearts: in fact Paul, having studied under Gamaliel (the top Pharisee of his time) said that he counted everything for loss and why? Because God did not send him to the Jews (where his education would be useful) but to the Gentiles who had almost no knowledge of the Hebraic Laws. 

    I gotta say I love how God works! He made fools of mans wisdom and wisdom of mans foolishness.

  • Sosthenes

    Wasn't Paul a religious professional?


    Acts 26:5 Which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee. 


    Philippians 3:5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, [of] the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee; 
    Philippians 3:6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. 


    Who could be more professional than that?


    Paul was also very educated:


    Acts 26:24 And as he thus spake for himself, Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad


    I want to point out to people that I believe the Apostle Paul held classes because it was in a school setting::


    “..he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the *SCHOOL* of one Tyrannus.  And this continued by the space of two years; so that all they which dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks.” (Acts 19:9b-10)


    You can only dispute with educated people if you can hold your own.
     
    My friend says,“Tell (them) that the Holy Spirit does not work with nothing. If one has not learned something, the Holy Spirit has nothing to work with to be effective. You need to point out to (them) that every writer of the Bible read books. Moses had the equivalent of an advanced doctoral degree. David was a prolific author who was very much aware of his times. Solomon received a better education than David, and wrote over a thousand books himself. Each of the prophets was able to read not only the Law, but also the commentaries on the law by authors from around the known world -- even as far away as India and China - with most of the books found at the Library at Alexandria (Egypt) before it was burned to the ground by heathens. The Bible that the apostles used, the Septuagint, was written there. Matthew was a tax collector who not only understood Aramaic/Hebrew, but also Latin and Greek, too. The same with Mark and John with respect to education. Luke had a doctoral degree in medicine, but through his writings we can see a tremendous influence of learning from other cultures. Paul told Timothy to bring the books along with the parchments.”-my friend

  • Sosthenes

    If I did a list of people with means, I would list people like Lydia who was a seller of purple and others which church history records.  If you actually read through the geneologies, you can find what God takes note of and when the books are opened, the small and great will be judged.

  • cursedgypsy@xanga

    I'm this with


    this as well.


    I'd rather be a peasant than trapped in a life where everyone's trying to beat me at something.  I have a few skills, and I keep them to myself! !!!! WWJD? 

  • naphtali_deer@xanga

    I admit I've often been skeptical of formal training and seminaries and the like. Just because someone has gone to seminary doesn't guarantee they're competent and it doesn't validate that God has actually put them into the ministry. Many people put themselves into the ministry and they don't belong there. A seminary degree doesn't confer authority or calling. That comes from the Holy Spirit.

    Yet we can't say all studying, training, schooling, scholarship are worthless. We can't paint it with such broad brushstrokes. We're all to study to show ourselves approved. Of course, the extent of and our inclindation to study will vary among us; it will depend on the intellectual abilities God has given us, the calling God has put upon us and the mission field to which He is sending us. The main thing we need to be doing is lifting up Christ and Him crucified and not making much of ourselves but much of Him. And in the end, what matters is the heart.

    So God can use the religious professional (so long as that religion is true religion--not a religion of mere outward forms but a religion flowing from Christ in the heart) and He can use the peasant....There's no limit to what God can do. What really matters is if His Holy Spirit has gotten hold of us and made us new creations and given us a desire to render ourselves wholly unto Him as living sacrifices.

  • Sosthenes

    Matthew 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 
    Matthew 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, [that] observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 


    The scribes and Pharisees sat in Moses' seat but Jesus still told us to listen to them.  When does math stop being math or when does reading stop being reading just because someone's motives are impure?  Even I have been corrected by pastors who knew meanings even though I felt they were wrong on the bigger picture.


    I think training and schooling is important.  Teaching is more than getting up and saying a bunch of facts.  Teaching has an understanding on how people learn and in which order to present the facts and the knowledge on how to get the mind to progress from one point to the next.


    Another problem is that unless someone is trained by someone who is trained, the average person in the pew wouldn't know if the pastor was giving us his own ideas or teaching from God's word.


  • Stephanie_J_B@xanga

    Good post Thanks for the thoughts!

  • Theophilus166@xanga

    Jesus' disciples didn't have religious training, but to suggest that it's a negative thing is simply foolish.  As already mentioned, Paul was among the best trained Jewish people. The suggestion made by @deepestrecesses, that Paul's training was useless in his ministry to the Gentiles, is incorrect.  A quick survey of his letters shows how much he relies on the Old Testament.  All of the churches he wrote to were mixed - both Jew and Gentile.

    In fact, the reason why Jesus rejected the Pharisees is because of the arrogance of their position - something I see in the author of this post.  As much as the Pharisees of Jesus' day may have seen themselves as "better" because of their education, this author seems to think he is "better" because of his or her lack of education.  The reason is different, the arrogance is the same.

    In Luke 18, Jesus tells the story of a Pharisee who "looked down on everybody else.  He thanked God that he was not like "other men."  It sure sounds a lot like the author of this post. You say that Jesus wanted ordinary men so he wouldn't have to deal with smug arrogance - yet this article is proof that smug arrogance is not the sole possession of educated religious people.

  • YouTOme@xanga

    @naphtali_deer@xanga - i couldn't have said it better. i agree. =)

  • Sosthenes

    "I hope I will never become a professional.  I would rather be a peasant who has been with Jesus."


    Who is this blogger kidding?  He has a professional website, he has a book, he lists about 23 colleges he has been booked at.  He even has references all at:


    http://claytonking.com/booking/


    If he wishes to be a peasant then he should give up his booking and take up fishing because we're being played as there are a number of problems with his blog post.


  • deepestrecesses

    @Theophilus166@xanga - That is true, you did point out a mistake of mine in my wording.  The primary point of my response was to point out that 'the Lord picked even these educated men, not because of their education, but because of their hearts'. I did not take the time to clarify that Paul did indeed demonstrate his knowledge of the Old Testament and it's Laws, although I think you might agree that his knowledge of the OT was primarily used to refute the Jews in the way that they were trying to impose "a yoke that they themselves could not bare".

    You do present a true concept though- in as much as the Pharisees took pride in their knowledge it has become popular to take pride in ignorance: I disagree with you that this was the case of this author- I think he/she had a different meaning at heart, or at least I hope so. I hope the point of this post was to remind people not to rely upon their own knowledge that they have achieved and to make room for the Lord to lead them.

    Anyway, thanks for taking time to point out what I overlooked.

  • deepestrecesses

    @naphtali_deer@xanga - "YouTOme" has it right, I think Naphtali_Deer says it best.

    The Spirit's calling is what sends people into the ministry and the Lord reaps the Harvest. 

  • DesArcMusician

    Wow, I rarely comment on this website, but as a full time minister, this post offended me deeply. 


    First of all the word professional is terribly overused in this post.  None of us are "professional" ministers, and if anyone thinks he is a "professional" then he should seriously examine his calling. 


    Second, the Bible says to worship God "In Spirit and in truth."  That means using your mind, something that is severely lacking from our culture today.


    Finally, it is the joy of my life and the song of my heart to serve God in this capacity.  I am so blessed that God has extended His mercy to me and allowed me to go to a job every day that is something that I want to do more than anythig else in this world.  I love going to hospitals or just sitting around talking to church memebers, or having breakfast with a good friend who's having some problems in his marriage, and to think that before time began, God knew that this unique group of people and my unique skill set would match up like they have, it just humbles me. 


    Not all of us full time ministers are Pharisees or Sad u sees.  *LOL*  Some of us are good people. 


  • ehrinn_l@xanga

    @DesArcMusician - i don't think that is quite what the author meant by the word, "professional".


    i think it more like, "is Jesus your profession, or your life?" there's a huge difference.


    i've worked with & for "professional christians", and they are no fun to be around. you can never measure up, never do enough. there's reason in their minds why we no longer work in their churches....


    we were real, not professional.


    perhaps that's a better word than professional, but you lose the meaning of what the religious leaders "of the day" were without it.


    sounds like you're not a professional at all, actually.

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