Thursday, 26 February 2009
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Advice: Follow God in Poverty or Follow Money in Misery?
Lately, I've been struggling with whether or not I want to be in engineering. Now, I'm only a second-semester freshmen so I have plenty of time to decide what I want to do, but for convenience, I want to figure out what I want to do with my life and, more importantly, what God has planned for my life.
I've been unsure about engineering from the beginning. I didn't know about the gross amounts of math I'd be using, and I didn't really know what engineering was. I thought maybe this is what I was destined for, to go into aerospace engineering and make spaceships. But what I didn't realize is that, though I have a passion for space, I have no passion for making things, fixing things, or math.
Another one of my passions, and also my absolute best talent I have, is writing. I feel like writing is my God-given talent and now that I've been praying about my uncertainties and asking my family and my girlfriend, I've realized that this talent may be the one God wants me to use. But how? How can I use this talent to support myself, a wife, and kids?
Another obstacle is the approval of my parents. They think the only way I'm going to be successful is to be an engineer, and they're totally wrong. I respect them and everything, but they only see in dollar signs and not in happiness. I want to support a family AND be happy, but they don't understand that. They also don't understand that my skill with math and science only went so far, and beyond high school I've become an average student. I have a 3.9 GPA in high school and I did no work, but now I'm in college and I'm struggling with something I'm unsure I even want.
I'm afraid engineering isn't what God wants me to do with my life. But if it's not, what is? How can I use writing to make a stable and decent living?
Should I stay with engineering and struggle and be miserable? Or should I just try and find something else I can do that's not writing or engineering (or anything with math)?
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I have a degree in engineering. If you dislike math as a freshman you'll absolutely detest it as a junior and senior.
The engineering field is unstable. Layoffs left and right. You really have to be good to survive.
If you develop your writing craft you can make a good living. What kind of writing do you prefer?
i'm in the same position. except for the fact that i have no idea what i want to be. people tell me to take the practical route, and "you're filipino, arianne. just be a nurse! you'll always have a job!"
but maybe its just my teenage idiotic...ness and stubborness and ignorance speaking, but i'm so tired of people just settling. it sounds selfish, but there's always a constant need to please others. and why do we have to go through life doing what others want all the time. isn't it our lives? as cliche as it sounds, we only live once.
that doesn't mean to totally your family and leave em hangin', but don't deny yourself of living fully too. eh. there's a delicate balance.
if i wanted to be a writer, and felt it was my call like you, i would work so hard to make sure that i would be able to provide for my family. or at least do something closely related to it.
i don't know. there's a lot of contradictions to this. this doesn't mean we can do everything we want all the time. but eh. yea.
I have faced something similar in my life. in the beginning, I wanted to study something related to children, but there is no career can I choose from other than be a teacher. so I scrapped that idea and wanted to become a urban planner. I've done much research and was determined to become an urban planner - plus I was told it makes good money (not that it matters much). but the misleading part was, I based it on my hobby, rather than what I really want to do. i mean, i know nothing about urban planning, and I only like it because you get to travel and explore different places. also, i'm not really an office type of person. I realized that, time and time again, God always leads me back to children-related work. I was reading "40 Days Purpose Driven Life" and one of the section said...if you like what you do, you will enjoy it and will continue doing it. if you don't, it means it is not meant for you. so, yes, I will be pursuing in a children-related career, and knowing that God will lead the way. Just ask God for directions and have patiences because His timing is always right.
"Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed" Proverbs 16:3
Doesn't sound like engineering is a good idea at all, really.
@LoBornlite@xanga - i love all kinds of writing. in fiction, i love sci fi, post apocalyptic, near-future, zombie... well, the only kind of fiction i DON'T like is like mystery/love story, unless it is good... okay, i like fiction. i also like writing about myself (haha) and about politics. i write a TON of posts on xanga to all the different ish sites because i like to write about my opinion wherever people will see it.
@harmonyminusmelody@xanga - It sounds like a career in journalism would go a long way in serving your diverse interests. It takes a while to build a career but it sounds like you have the literary gifts and the drive to make it all happen.
Tell your parents that they will have to wait just a few extra years before you are filthy rich!
I think what you can do is to pray about it and let god lead you.:) the thing about my education was i didnt have to declare major at beginning so everything was like general in the first year. After that then you start to declare your major.
Why dun u take cross major stuff first, work towards something that you love and do it. What i did was i loved makeup artistry so on the other hand i pursued a diploma in that while doing my finance degree which was what my parents wanted me to do.;)
I did both and was happy. Then god lead me into teaching...after that there was no turning back. I did my masters in english and my dad and mom had no comments abt that. Teaching after all is a respectable job and earns me decent money.
For what it's worth, I've always had writing as a hobby, but I didn't major in it because I thought I could benefit more from training in my other fields of interest (specifically music). After a bit of struggling to find the right thing for me, I now have a very secure and comfortable job working with writing (sure enough!) as a copy editor. And I do earn enough to support a wife and kids (though we haven't got any of the latter yet).
All that to say, God very often works in mysterious and unexpected ways, and He may very well have something planned for you that you haven't even thought of yet! Trust Him, and ask Him what He wants you to do in the present. He'll take care of the future when it arrives.
I say do what you love. If you love writing, go for it. I worked for a while at a high paying job that I didn't enjoy and I was miserable. I was much happier with my low-paying EMT job. There is no compensation worth hating your job.
There are plenty of ways to make money writing, and if it is what God wants for you, He will provide.
I shared this quote a couple days ago, but I'll give it to you too: "The place God calls you to is the place where your deep gladness and the world's deep hunger meet." -- Frederick Buechner
My opinion is to do what you think God is telling you to do, but you have to do some research to figure that out. Go to the career office of your university/college, and get some career counseling. Ask questions about the opportunities and careers available to writers. Then shadow some jobs. The career office should be able to help you out with that too. As you do these things, I think God will be speaking to you in different ways and will make it clear which direction you should go.
I wish you well.
Well, science and writing can go hand in hand if you are good at writing reports... Start a partnership business can be good, but be sure to have a trustworthy and business-orientated partner. You can then use your ideas on a new scientific magazine, that's just my little thoughts... Erm... Just follow your heart...
I am much the same--I am a second semester freshman getting a degree in computer science, but I really want to write (though admittedly, I enjoy C++ so far). My parents would like me to do computer science.
My plan is to get a job that pays enough to support myself and a family, and write on the side. If writing never takes off, I still have a job.
If you really don't want to be an engineer, change your major. If I remember right, most college students do this an average of four times. Ask around. Find someone who knows what they're doing. See what you enjoy and what you don't. See what pays well and what doesn't. Pick something that you can enjoy if your writing never takes off.
If you truly believe God wants you to be a writer, however, start writing. Get stuff out there. Try to get something published (I have! It's not impossible!). Write lots of short stories, hone your skills. Get them published. After that, start writing the way you want to write--you'll already have people's attention if you have enough good short stories out there. And never be afraid of rejection--if a story or manuscript is rejected, send it to someone else.
Keep praying to God and ask him to show you the way that he has for you. Over time he will eventually reveal his plan that he has for you.
Let me say this- Gods will for you may or may not lead to a career that "makes you happy". I personally understand exactly what you are talking about. My father wanted me to either do Mathematics or Accounting: I actually enjoy math, but my skills only go so far (they pretty much stop after Calc).
Another thing that I have learned is that God is a LOT LESS concerned with how much money you make than he is about what you do for his kingdom and how much time you spend seeking him. Trust in the Lord to provide for you and he will. Seek him first and every other essential will fall into place.
I have pursued a general business degree. The reason why I did that is because it gives me the ability to support myself and my family with a great deal of flexibility. God has called me into China- with a TEFL certification in addition to my degree I will be fully equiped to go teach english over there while I do missoins. When/if I come back, I will have a degree that will enable me to both support myself and family and preach even if I don't get paid.
So I guess what I'm saying is that you may wish to pursue something that will give you utility and flexibility so that you can do whatever the Lord calls you to do.
I hope you figure out what to do and can resolve things with your parents... that can be the most difficult thing to do.
I am in a similar predicament--I have always felt like I should go into Music Education, but I have a strong passion for writing and would love to go into journalism. I think one of the important things to understand is that God will use is ways we may not understand. We may not end up in a field that we're passionate about, but that doesn't mean we won't accomplish something there.
Pray, pray, and pray some more. If you still don't know, than I'd say go with your gut.
Wanna know what God's will for you is? "Seek first His kingdom and His righteousness." Matt6. Why not pursuing the knowledge about Him at college level and leave your career in His hand?
i say do what you really love, what you feel like you were meant to do. not what you feel like you should do but don't want to do. if that makes any sense.
I started out as a Comp Sci major. At the end of my Jr year I got so fed up with the lack of assistance that I switched majors to Psych. I graduated and went straight into pizza delivery.
After 5 or so years of various menial and clerical jobs, God dropped a Computer Programming position into my lap. I've been working in the field for a little over a decade, now, but I've just recently been told by our Father that I may never work in this field again once my present job is done. However, I haven't been told what I will be doing with my time or how the roof and food will come to me. That's rather disconcerting seeing as how I'm trying to move to another country which requires a work visa. But if He directs He will supply.
All this to say, don't worry about these things - our Father knows that you need them. Concern yourself with developing your intimacy with Him and He will take you where He wants you to go, lead you into what He wants you to do, and supply you with all you need to do it (see Matt 6).
I believe there's no exact path that God calls us to take. Â I think there are only guiding principles. Â
1. love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength + love your neighbor as yourself.
2. do not be lazy, but do wholeheartedly in everything you do as if for the Lord. Â Don't take the easy way out, just because something is easy.
The only wrong path is that of sin and willful disobedience to God.
good luck :) Â Also one thing I regret from college is ... really try to build relationships with a lot of people, because God can really use you to encourage others around you, or bring people to know him, etc
can you find something in between?!
Have you see the movie "The Rookie?" If not, you should! How long will it take before your parents (or friends) understand your definition of success? .....maybe forever!! Many bright and motivated young people have been where you are right now...I was, once.
Engineering is considered a prestigious profession - a sign of great knowledge and achievement, but when you get there you find that it ( your secure future ) is just as uncertain as in any other field, Besides, how you present yourself as a prospective engineer carries at least as much, if not more, weight than your degree. You really have no guarantee that you will ever succeed in the field you have chosen.
All this is not to say that there is no value in education. Your education should continue for the rest of your earthly life. (Maybe even beyond). (If you believe that your talent, your passion is writing, please give it a go - even while you are making up your mind. You will not look back on your life choices with regret if you follow God's leading in the best way you know how.
Minor in english/writing/journalism and then major in something more technical that you still find interesting (e.g. economics, chemistry, marketing). Then you could work in marketing, journalism, technical reports, and the like. Lots of money in those AND you're doing something you enjoy: writing...
Writing encompasses more than just sci-fi fiction novels...it's an integral part of any business and included in any professional job you go into...except maybe sports...not sure on that one :P
E.B. White, for example, was a fiction writer and a columnist/editor for the New Yorker...
And no matter what, when the day is done (or your life is over, take your pick), the only thing that will matter is whether or not you made an impact on the world for the Kingdom. In order to do that you have to follow God's Will. He has plans to prosper us, not to harm us. If you don't feel like it's God's will for you to go into aero engin....then don't. God will provide if you trust him and follow him.
This started as a response to your post, and turned into a vent on my life...sorry!
Oh MAN can I relate. I think most people in college at one point in time felt this way, too. For my entire life I wanted to be a writer; I used to constantly write short stories, poems, and essays as a kid. I was convinced that I would go to college and major in journalism, and write for a magazine. I was also a jock in high school, playing 3 varsity sports and another just for fun. I took sports medicine because I thought it would help me better understand my body and sports-related injuries, and I discovered my love for physiology and became obsessed with the musculoskeletal injuries. I was pre-physical therapy in college, and am currently in a 3-year doctoral program in physical therapy.
Sometimes I wonder what happened to that little girl who loved to write poems. What happened to the 8-year-old who stayed up late reading under the covers with a flashlight (oh wait, I still do that...) I think she listened to the mainstream culture of her DC-suburban upbringing that says the only respectable jobs are the ones that help you earn 6 figures and afford all the luxuries of life. I think she sold out. Now I'm wondering how to reconcile all of my passions. I still love the body, and I'm still enthralled with it's functions. I love to read, write, and research. I'm planning on going through with PT, but I hope to get my PhD in exercise physiology and teach at a small college, while reading and writing research to further the evidence in my field. Either that or I will get a masters in public health and work in wellness and prevention.
I ask God every day to show me if I'm taking the right path. Am I scared of becoming a physical therapist because I'm not confident in my abilities and skills? If so, this will be no different no matter what field I choose. I have chosen to commit to this program the next 2 years and $40,000 of my life, while keeping in the back of my mind that no matter how much time and effort you put into your career, nothing is set in stone. I could completely change my mind and end up a dietician 10 years from now.
Money is not life. Don't chose a career based on money. Your career is not life. A job is what you do for about 40-50 hours a week, your life is what you do with the remaining 118-128 hours. You can serve God and His people through whatever career you choose. Do something that you are passionate about, because you will be a better servant if you care about your career...but don't stress too much, most people change their career at least 4-5 times in their life.
Then again, maybe I'll quit school, move to Ecuador, and write poetry.
 Follow your heart.
Life is short and there are no guarantees.If you hear with your heart instead of your ears, and see with your soul instead of your eyes, I promise God will light your path and lead the way.Obviously we all need money, just to survive, it's not money in itself that's evil, it's the obsession and what importance we place in it that's evil.As long as you make enough to put food on the table and a roof over your head, and most importantly you're happy, that's all the wealth you need.True wealth comes from within, and from the people who touch our lives or whom we touch along the way.If your passion is writing, then write, even if you cannot support yourself doing it, it's important to live your dreams.I am sure you'll find a career, that will support you and your family, something you can enjoy.I don't think your parents only care about money, but everything in our society says we are successful based not on who we are, but how much we have.I think your parents just want what they feel is best for you.When we leave this earth, we can't take our money, houses, or cars with us, It's the love, peace and joy we have known and shared with others, that will be remembered.I promise, if you let God and the Holy Spirit guide you, you'll find the answer to your questions.And who knows, maybe someday you'll become a famous author, and even if not, you will have pursued something you love, and anything done with love is indeed priceless.God Bless You, I hope someday I can read your work, and say I knew him when.