Of everything I've posted on the issue of abortion, this one by far will be the most controversial. People are dying here; this needs to stop. It's going to take more than just changing the law. Regardless about whether you feel a child in the womb is a life or not, abortion is not good for anybody. It's time to put an end to it, and how do we do that? It's a very simple solution.
MEN, DO YOUR JOB!!!
If you don't have the decency to stick around, don't have sex with the girl. If you get her pregnant, don't tell her, "Whatever you decide, I will support your decision." Oh, grow up. Be a man! It took two to make the thing. It will take two to figure it out. Don't abandon her. Don't leave her to make the decision on her own. You stay and you finish what you started.
I have good reason to think that if we as men were loyal to the women we chase, if we were virtuous, caring, loyal men, abortions would be virtually non-existent. Most women getting abortions -- 83% -- are single, unmarried women.
Eighty-three percent!! Guys, fellas... These women can't do it on their own. You had the easy job, you understand? You got her knocked up, so you help her out. And I don't mean paying for her abortion or giving her child support if she decides not to. You sit down, you talk it out, you be loyal, and you stick with her. If you aren't willing to do that, then you don't sleep with her.
Ladies, you make him work for your love. Make it tough on the guys. Really tough. You make him open doors, pull chairs out, compliment you in a proper way, go out of his way for you, buy you gifts, do nice things for you. If he's not going the extra mile, then he's not worthy of you. Don't give him access. Sex first doesn't mean love later. Know his intentions. If he's not going to stick around, what he is going to stick you with is a decision to make on your own. Is a few minutes of pleasure really worth the months of trouble this is going to cause you? Or the lifetime of scars it may inflict?
Guys, you are every bit as responsible for this, if not more responsible. It is your job to love her, cherish her, to be the head of the household, to provide for your family. So you do it. If you don't want to do it, you quit sleeping around. Are we clear? Don't take more than you're willing to give. You take a piece of every woman you sleep with.
Stop. Destroying. Lives.I'm glad we had this talk.
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Good post.
It is a womans choice as they say. But ever notice that it is men who are such strong abortion supporters? Abortion is really convenient for them. It is the woman who feels the fact she has killed her own. The man, he often just leaves. Enjoy the process, and run from the result. Letting the woman feel the guilt. It a lot easer for a man to lie to himself. It is not inside of him.
LOL I could agree with this. However, there are much easier ways for guys to prevent abortions: instead of standing outside abortion clinics with pictures of aborted fetuses and accusations, try standing outside with offers to help support the woman in every aspect from financial to emotional throughout the life of the child.
Although I dont think a guy should have to work hard for a woman's love, I do think that while she is pregnant she does deserve the extra treatment because she is not her regular self...and if a guy has sex with a woman, he should take responsibility for his actions. If he doesnt want to risk getting married early or becoming an father in that point in life, he should not be having sex and should fix that "man to hand" relationship.
@trunthepaige@xanga - I am as strong an abortion advocate as any man I know.
Perhaps that's because I've never been pregnant.
Or use a contraceptive, either/or.
If you don't want to do it, you quit sleeping around. Are we clear? Don't take more than you're willing to give, etc.
Well, just in case there are any men out there who didn't get this message, women can solve the entire problem by simply keeping their turgid sex traps shut.
I mean a grrrlll can't depend on a guy for everything, now can she?
But it's a lot more fun to just let the girl go through with it. Less responsibility on our part, and then you get to hold the "Oh yeah? Well, you're a murderer" card in any arguement. It's totally more of a win for us.
@la_faerie_joyeuse@xanga - Yep. But I think that would eventually turn even some pro-lifers into pro-choicers. If pro-lifers (who want all of these unwanted babies to be born) actually had to take care of them... would there be as many pro-lifers?
@trunthepaige@xanga - It seems to me that men are the most vociferous pro-lifers. It's easy for them to shoot their mouths off. They don't have to deal with morning sickness, hemorrhoids, crazy hormones, stretch marks, gestational diabetes, pre-eclampsia, episiotomies, or post-partum depression (and you can get all those even if you're giving the baby up for adoption). If you're a man and you get a woman pregnant, it's not your job to convince her to go through all that just so you can have a clean conscience. If you knocked her up, you support her decision, whatever that might be. Otherwise, we're going to end up back in the days of men basically "owning" their women's bodies.
@LoBornlite@xanga - You're fucking disgusting.
@la_faerie_joyeuse@xanga - Every survey I have ever read shows that men are more likely to be pro choice than woman are. Not a huge difference, but noticeable. I suspect you are right that a woman who has had a child, is more likely to be less pro choice, than one who never has. But I have never looked into that.
The fact that they call this a womans issue alone, bothers me. It is a womans choice, so the father wants nothing to do with that choice. Maybe the mother of his child, would like to know she can rely on his support. Support not just enforced by a court, but by his own sense of right and wrong. Two people created a child, two should be responsible about it. But I said "should" and that means it is not always true.
@LadyLibellule@xanga - Exactly my point. Most pro-lifers agree with the abstract notion that every child should be cared for, but very few of them are actually willing to go through with the caring!
@trunthepaige@xanga - There's a difference between who is more likely to be pro-choice and who is more likely to be a strong advocate for it. I haven't read any studies on the issue, so I'll defer to your greater knowledge in this area.
@LadyLibellule@xanga -
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/22/opinion/polls/main537570.shtml
Take that up with the polling results. It aways come out that way. It is men who most support abortion
@la_faerie_joyeuse@xanga - the extremist on the anti abortion side are mostly woman. the poll I posted above shows that. It comes out that way in every poll i have ever read
@LadyLibellule@xanga - You're fucking disgusting.
What's so disgusting about owning your own body and not depending on a man to be responsible?
I thought that was what women's liberation was all about.
@la_faerie_joyeuse@xanga - I think you would be surprised about that. I have at times wondered when having one of these discussion. Is there a massive regional difference on this subject? The perceptions I see coming out of the bible belt, are so different than were I live
@trunthepaige@xanga - Whoop-dee-doo. Men support it more by three whole percentage points.
The guy who wrote this post is (unless he's a really manly woman) a dude, and he's obsessed with telling women what to do with their bodies. Is he not representative of the Christan demographic here on Xanga?
@LoBornlite@xanga - If you refer to your own vagina as a "turgid sex trap", then I stand by my statement. Women who fought for liberation would never be so disparagingly vile in reference to their own bodies.
@LoBornlite@xanga - Yeah but I think that point of view is well covered. It would be nice if the guys took a little responsibility beyond their check books.
@LadyLibellule@xanga - If you refer to your own vagina as a "turgid sex trap", then I stand by my statement.
Alas, promiscuous sex reduces a woman's beloved vagina to a "turgid sex trap." And this is but one actual tragic result of women's liberation.
@LadyLibellule@xanga - Really, he was telling woman what to do with their bodies. Last I looked he was writing this to a male audience, telling them to take some responsibly for their actions.
Oh I brought up the 3% because it disproved your comment.You would have thought that poll rather valid. If it went your preconceived notions direction.
@trunthepaige@xanga - It would be nice if the guys took a little responsibility beyond their check books.
Yes it would. But screwing around is not nice. So expecting nice results doesn't seem very smart.
@trunthepaige@xanga - I would have to say that, in Georgia, there are a TON of people who are very hypocritical Christians. They give me a very poor impression of the religion as a whole.
@LoBornlite@xanga - Agreed everyone needs to take responsibility. Babies don't just happen
@trunthepaige@xanga - Just to point out, the margin of error in that survey is 4%, meaning that there is no statistical difference. Also, with such a small sample (814 people total) it is in no way a representative survey.
I am not arguing with you, just pointing out about the survey. Honestly, it's an interesting survey overall, just very difficult to base any conclusions on.