Sunday, 30 November 2008
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Revelife Revisited: Church Ethnicity - One Body, One Race?
(note: Now that Revelife has grown, we want to bring up some good posts from the archives that you might've missed.)
The church I grew up in was made up of people who were mostly (I'd say 98%) of one ethnicity. When I was a child, I didn't find anything wrong with it. As I got older, I started questioning the importance of an ethnically homogenous church, but I let it go for a while because after all - this is where my friends were! Plus, I knew it was important to my mom to worship where people spoke the same language - i.e., not English. (My dad wasn't the church-going type, but that's another post for another day)
But now, as an adult, I've chosen to become a member of a very multi-ethnic church. And I'm finding that I am actually very uncomfortable worshipping in churches that are made up of one race of people. This is just my personal feeling, but I like it when Christianity crosses boundaries and accepts individuals of all shapes, sizes, and colors, you know? I imagine heaven to be full of all sorts of people, so I feel like the churches on earth should reflect that. Also, sometimes there is danger in viewing the world - and Jesus - from a single lens.
Here's my little disclaimer before I bounce this back to you all:
- I'm mostly talking about churches in metropolitan/multi-ethnic areas, because I don't imagine it is very ethnically diverse in say... Nebraska, USA, or Pembrokeshire, Wales, or Haifa, Israel. (But please do correct me if I'm wrong)
- I'm also not saying that one-race churches are necessarily bad. God can do awesome things through anyone who loves and serves him humbly.
- Lastly, I realize that some of my discomfort may stem from my own history, insecurities, and issues with my race.
So what are your thoughts on churches that are all White/Black/Chinese/Hispanic/Korean/etc? (Those are the ones I see the most)
If you attend a church like this, what is the appeal? Did race play a big factor in your decision to attend, or is it just a coincidence?
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I don't know why, but for sometime now I have felt to go to a black church. I don't know if it's because I love the singing that the black folks do or what. They really get into it and bless me, :) I guess what I'm trying to say is that to me at least, I just feel that is where I belong! I guess I'm hesitant/afraid because of the racial barrier issue that has went on so long between whites and blacks. I I could ONLY hope they would accept me as I would any black person or any other race at my church.. with open arms and love! But if they didn't, it would truly break my heart because if anyone knows anything about me, it's that I do NOT see color...I see character, :)
I don't think there is anything wrong with church body being of all one race... like you said, especially if that is the area it's in. Same with socioeconomic status... I would expect some churches to be comprised of middle class whites, if that is the population. I think it's amazing to be able to worship with others who are different from yoursellf, but, with diversity in ethnicity come diversity in culture. And we tend to go with what we feel comfortable with (no one wants to be uncomfortable in church!). On the other hand, i think the issue is not so much of our unconcious segregation, but, how we welcome those who are of different backgrounds into our church. If you (in general) attend a hispanic church, will an asian person feel comfortable and welcomed? Likewise, are upper/middle class churches welcoming and accepting of lower income families enough to make them feel at home?
I think it is important to embrace the differences, too. Our race and ethnicity influence who we are. If you're asian, i see you as asian, if you're polish, i see you as polish, if you're black, you're black, white, you're white. I don't think the way to go about it is pretending we're all the same, seeing color is a good thing, it is a part of us. We just need not to use it as a means of comparison or steretype.
I go to a predominantly chinese church, where most of us are migrants. They speak very little english, so chinese is the more natural language to use to understand spiritual things and to worship God with. A lot of it is mainly to do with language and cultural barriers.
Ethnic unity is one of the major themes of the New Testament, particularly Acts, which is generally regarded as being at least somewhat normative for church life today.
The only other moral themes that are as prevalent in the New Testament are the church's commitment to nonviolence, to sharing/renouncing personal possessions and the equality of men and women in Christ.
If anyone has anything to add to this list, I'd be game to hear it.
But by any measure, the American church is doing quite poorly by the standards of New-Testament church life.
My major problem is that, unlike the other three, I know no particularly practical steps that churches can take on the racial divides. Intentional multicultural churches like Mosaic are a good step, of course, but generally I despair of a practicable solution coming in the next twenty-five years or so.
-NDSR
In the church I go to, we are all only one race, which is white. But I know that it is NOT this way because we are racist at all, in any way, I know for a fact that ANYONE would be welcome there, that is just the way it is. That said, there really aren't very many other races in our area, except maybe Mexicans.
So I would say, maybe not a "coincidence" that our church is all white (since I don't believe in coincidences!), rather that God meant it to be that way, but there is no reason at all why we wouldn't be more than welcoming to any kinds of people in our church!
I just wanted to clarify this regarding seeing color. I base it on this..one of the "members/body" scriptures..
. Colossians 3:15
Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. And be thankful.
We are members (pleural) but make up one body (singular). I don' care about being called "white," an "American," or what have you. I just want to be known as one of HIS, :)
I don't think it's okay for multi-ethnic churches to look down on mono-ethnic bodies. But I think it happens. That's the only real crime here.
The hard part, which you touched on lightly, is getting used to being uncomfortable. And this happens, and should happen, in any church. We're all learning how to get along. It just happens to be more in-your-face when in a multi-ethnic church, because you can begin to notice power-dynamics and then....
work on ways to relinquish power, establish proper boundaries, or grow beyond what you think about your own ethnicity
best of luck and many blessings!
I have attended churches where there was a great deal of talk about the need to attract people of various ethnic origins and diverse economic levels. I believe that there is a certain feeling of guilt connected with these appeals. Sure, in heaven there will be diversity. The Lord created all things to have distinctive individual qualities ( that includes people, obviously. The Bible clearly states that race is a myth in so far as it is used to discern the value or humanness of others. We are all of one blood. But we are convicted of our secret prejudices ( not all of them racial, either ) so we know that it might just be that we would be uncomfortable with people who are different.
One thing I have grown to want to cultivate is the ability to look others in the eye and listen attentively to what they say. Beneath the obvious exterior appearance or personality traits is another person who has the same problems relating with others who are different. I am trying to make it easier for them to feel my acceptance of them as a fellow human ( and maybe they are a brother or sister in Christ also ). It probably never will happen that all people will overlook the differences in others, but I believe it behooves us as Christians to lead the way since we know the One who made us all.
in my experience-having always attended a russian church-there is a language appeal but also a language restriction. it's not necessarily good or bad though.
I'm not sure about this issue. I am comfortable worshipping with alll kindsof ethnicities. I have ministered in mostly white middle class churches, because that's the area/neighborhood the church is trying to reach. That is the type of people that will relate best to the congregation's story of salvation. 85 % of people who come to Christ, come to Christ because of the influence of a friend. We have baptized three people in the last 4 weeks, and all three have come to salvation because of a friend. It's no wonder we are segregated in churches, if our friends are inviting us, then it's not surprising at all.
they're all ok... we're all slowly trying to open up our churches to different races, no?...
I find that a lot of the times, churches are tied in with the people's national cultures if the church is mono-nationalistic.
For example, the bible church I attended for several years composed of mainland chinese and taiwanese people. Because we mostly shared similar cultures, as a church group we celebrated a lot of cultural events and church related events together. The services were in Mandarin. It was like a social/religious group.
As long God is the focus of churches whether they are multi-ethnic or mono-ethnic, then it's all cool.
@Stephanie_J_B@xanga - hmm I think you meant Latinos as a race right? Because Mexican is a nationality.
The church I grew up in,and still attend has for most of my life been predominantly white - many of us are descendants of the Dutch immigrants from 50 some odd years ago. Never really thought much about it growing up either. However, in the last 10 years we've become quite diverse. Now we're not just European descent Canadians, but also African American, Chinese Canadian, and even from Indian culture. I think it's great! The vast majority that are joining our churches have been sponsored for immigration from persecuted areas in the world. It's been great for our kids too. When I went to (our private christian school) I onlyknew white kids in my school. Now each of my kids has 1 or 2 other races in their class and it's completely normal to them, which is fabulous. There is some language divide, but we're overcoming that slowly but surely. Indeed, God's kingdom is built up of many different races, nationalities and tongues! Won't heaven by grand?
its somewhat of a stretch to compare it but its like historically black colleges and universities as well as greek life. whether its about heritage or just fitting in or if its just a coincidence. i wish that churches would diversify more. the one im going to right now is gradually getting there. but i also do live in the "holy city" so its very hard to diversify when there are so many options (especially ethnic ones).
I'd been going to an all-Korean church for a few months; but I stopped going for various reasons.. Something about the atmosphere just wasn't right. I think the uniform ethnicity somehow contributed to this.. gah I can't explain. Totally useless post >_>
I prefer some diversity.
haha, oh TobyMac "welcome to Diverse City ...."
i attend a small rural church we have all races of people in our church. we don't exclude anyone who wants to attend, our doors are open to all. being in a small town in texas we are more open to who are in the community. try it you might be surprise who show up at your church. my bible says god so loved the world so that it includes everybody!
There is nothing wrong with a homogenous church population nor is there anything wrong with a multi-ethnic church. I believe that God can and does use any factor for His purposes and to reach people in different ways. Some people are more easily reached in a homogenous church, some people are more willing to attend a diverse church, etc. In my case, I have attended both kinds of churches and currently choose to attend a church that is 98% one ethnicity where I am in the 2% exception...but no one knew I was of a different ethnic background until I told them; we're all Asian so for all intents and purposes it is as if I belong there anyway.
I'm only attending my third church in my life--we left the first one when I was four, and I attended the second one until last spring--and all I can ever remember was a predominantly white church for most of my life. And I didn't think anything about it, because that was all I knew. And it wasn't like we were segregated or anything [gasp] because after all there was one black family. And one mixed. But that was literally all. I think way more about this kind of thing now than I used to, and I'm glad that my new church home welcomes everyone with open arms and that people of many ethnicities and colors have made it their church home. We have black, white, Asian, Indian. I just met a Ukrainian girl, she's so cute. :]
So I love it. However I think the main problem with ethnicity in my area is that it's rural Ohio. Mostly white.
@duckling8912@xanga - Right, that is what I meant, I didn't mean to say Mexicans....sorry! One of those times when I can't think of the right word to use...
i would love to have a church where it was made up of every color..and every disabled person...from turrets to adhd to ms to wheelchairs to walkers to speech impediments to terminally ill ...every age every possible background...
i find that there's a lot more drama in one ethnicity churches. i mean every church has their own issues, but it seems that one ethnicity churches have other issues that inter-relate with everyone being mostly the same race.
but....i haven't found a churc where it was made up with all different races and ethnicities that i felt truly comfortable in. so i've been stuck in a rut between being uncomfortable in both situations.....
I have had the opportunity to worship in a setting that had two native american tribes PLUS anglo(white caucassian). I also had the opportunity to worship in a setting that was very similar to a United Nations.....people from several countries. THOSE types of worship services seem to me more filling, more freeing, more meaningful, more friendlier, more everything. When barriers of ethnic, color, etc, are down, freedom to worship the Lord is more in abundance.
@narajoe@xanga - no i understand. i grew up in a korean church so that's part of the reason i posted these thoughts.