Monday, 13 October 2008
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Legalizing Slot Machines: Yay or Nay?
by mr pineIn the state I'm in, Maryland, there will be a referendum on legalizing slot machines on the November ballot. This has been the source of much debate. A portion of the money gained from slots will go toward education and balancing the state's budget.
Proponents of legalizing slots say that it will raise money for the state without raising taxes. They also argue that people who want to play slots are already going to surrounding states to do so, which siphons revenue from this state to those.
Opponents say that it will victimize the poor and uneducated for the sake of the state's coffers and that it will increase crime and corruption.
I was solidly neutral on the subject until recently. The reason I was neutral was that, practically speaking, I didn't think any of the arguments, pro or con, held water.
Against the pro side, I thought that though it may increase the state's revenue, I know that this state is abysmal at spending money efficiently and will probably find some way of squandering it anyhow. This was the same arguement that they used to pass legislation to allow for the lottery... and if that was what was going to save us, why, just a few years later, do they need this revenue AND my state taxes seem to get higher every year (besides the fact that I live in a very liberal tax-and-spend state).
Against the con side, I didn't see how slots were any different from the lottery as far as victimizing the poor. In fact, to play slots, you actually have to go somewhere instead of just being able to pick up lottery tickets at the corner store. And since the slots would only be allowed at racetracks and similar venues, it would probably be in those facilities' best interest to try to minimize crime around those places themselves.
So what was left was whether I thought that, in and of itself, it was wrong.
The Bible doesn't speak directly to the matter of gambling. Yes, people mention passages about materialism and coveting and hoarding, but I think these apply more to other areas than to gambling itself.
Then in a lunchtime debate (I have a lot of these in my office), someone said something that made me shift my thinking a little. I was saying that though I didn't like the idea of slots, I didn't see how it was any different than the lottery in the way that it could "victimize" the poor. He responded by saying, "Yeah, but with the lottery, you don't see people spending the whole day spending dollar after dollar at the convenience store playing until they have no money left."
It's true. The lottery sort of polices itself in the sense in that in any "Pick Three" or "Pick Four" or Mega Millions jackpot, you have to wait until a certain time of day to find out if you've won or not. And with the scratch-offs, after some point, you're just going to get tired of scratching all those tickets... plus, you can visually see just how much money you've squandered as the tickets pile up. But with slots, (especially with ATMs available in the room) you can just keep playing until you completely empty your bank account.
This is when I also realized that gambling, to me, is not really as much about how you use your money, but rather about the addictive nature of it... the idolization aspect. It's that you could spend so much of your thought, as well as your money, devoted to a game of chance. Professional gamblers will tell you that it's not about how much they win but about the chase of the next "big win" - the money is just how you keep score.
I've played slot machines before and know first-hand that it's not that I think I'm going to get rich from playing slots. The occassional payout is just really enticement to keep playing. Thankfully, I don't have an addictive personality, but if I did, I could see how addiction to gambling could literally ruin my life.
So, is gambling wrong? In general, I don't think it's any more wrong than buying a car you can't afford, or coveting that electronic gadget that you don't need. We are all called to be good stewards of our money and flee from materialism. But I don't think that the act of pulling the arm (although they use buttons now) on a slot machine is, in itself, sinful.
However, as a Christian, I should oppose gambling because of its nature. By nature, it is addictive and directly encourages idolatry and greed. And as a Christian, I should discourage anything that can directly lead to stumbling believers and the taking advantage of the poor.
This is why I'm voting no on this referendum.
What do you think about this referendum on legalizing slot machines? Yay or nay?
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Comments (35)
@realmedragonboy - well, i must have been smoking crack all the times i played slots and thought i saw reels spin. i think it's funny how all of a sudden you have a friend who works in a casino to validate your claim. i wonder why you didn't use the inside info they have given you to denounce slot machines in the first place. by the way, my dad owns a casino and he told me that i'm right. HA!
@mrpine - people always say that when others vote for their interest group it's fine, but when christians do it's wrong. and they're right when they say this. christians make up a HUGE chunk of our country and the voting block and essentially bully their ideas into everyone's life. you say you wouldn't mind if all the buddhists got together and voted to ban killing animals. sounds good now, but how would you feel if there were significantly more buddhists than you and the vote passed? now you can't eat meat and are forced into being a vegan because of someone else's beliefs. i bet you wouldn't feel the same. it's estimated that homosexuals make up roughly 6% of the population. rounding down, that would be roughly 1 out of 20, but they can't marry because it offends christian morals. here's a news flash - - they don't want to get married in your church. they want to get married at a court so they can receive health care benefits, file joint income taxes and all the other rights that heterosexual people that get married in court houses enjoy. but they can't. all because you vote your conscience. we can't have legalize gambling. all because you vote your conscience. we can't have lotto in some states. all because you vote your conscience. and in the end what happens? people are robbed of their rights and i take my gambling to a bookie. the bookie then makes his money without paying any taxes - - money that could have gone to the state for education and civic projects.
simply speaking, when you vote your christian conscience you're imposing your beliefs on your neighbors. i don't want your church in my government any more than you want the government in your church.
@too_pretty_to_die@xanga - it's not true that animal rights activists and others don't affect me... my taxes pay for whatever legislation is enacted on their behalf. Someone is always telling someone else what to do or not do based on their ethics... whether or not it is the common ethic of the land. For example, drinking is illegal for minors. Who decided that? Who cares, it is something that is illegal based on someone's ethic.
But even with all that said... are you truly saying that I can't vote for the way I want this country to be - even if it goes against what you want it to be? Isn't that the basis of democracy? That I can vote my conscience and let the votes speak for themselves?
And, yes, if the population voted to be a non-Christian theocracy, I would have to be fine with it. That's the definition of a democracy. If I were persecuted because of it, I'd vote until I wasn't or move.
My vote is my vote.
@mrpine - Jesus, calm down. i wasn't condemning you for how you vote. i just consider the effect my vote has on others in terms of morality. you can vote however you please... so can i. if you have the cojones to tell a non-Christian that they have to follow Christian morals, go for it. but i don't.
drinking is illegal for minors because they are minors and not legally responsible for themselves. if we could charge a 13-year-old for alcohol-related offenses the same way we'd charge a 40-year-old, i'd be all for them being able to drink. but then we'd have to do away with the concept of minority completely, and that causes other legal problems.
@too_pretty_to_die@xanga - sorry, I wasn't actually getting riled up. I've been told that that my style of debate can seem confrontational. Sorry if it seemed like I was jumping down your throat.
I'm just saying that everyone votes based on what they believe is right or wrong... where that belief comes from may be different, but we all have an ethic we follow.
I can't go against my ethic any less than you can go against yours.
@jeep_jim@xanga - I think you're assuming too much about how I'd feel about things if I were in the minority. In fact, I think true believing Christians are in the minority.
So are you saying that I shouldn't be allowed to vote my conscience?
I can see what you're saying about my vote affecting people who will disagree with me, BUT you can't say that your, or anyone else's, votes don't impose their beliefs on me. Unless everyone agrees with everyone on everything, this is unavoidable.
@mrpine - what i assume more than anything is that christians will be closed minded and ignorant, constantly trying to oppress others and impose their will on the laws of the land. the last time religion and government mixed people were burned at the stake. i'd rather not see what will happen next time.
@jeep_jim@xanga - I agree, many Christians can be closed-minded. But please don't assume that we all are.
I stated that I believe gambling stumbles Christians as well as victimizing the poor
And Christians don't have the monopoly on oppression and ignorance... Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao Zedong... these were all athiests under which millions were persecuted and died - and just within the last century.
@mrpine - true. but you have to realize that many of your ethics are based on extremely specific (and hostile) rules which come from a religion that not everyone follows. unlike you, i would be greatly offended of a Buddhist tried to tell me what to do based on his religious code. i am not Buddhist... there is no legal reason why i should be held to the same doctrine. the same applies to Christianity.
there are plenty of secular reasons why things like murder, drunk driving, theft and arson are illegal. i have yet to hear a decent secular argument-- one that applies to everyone because we are human beings-- as to why homosexuals cannot get married. laws, in my opinion, should only be in place to prevent harm to others who have nothing to do with the action. no one has ever... and no one will ever... end up in a hospital, die, or lose all of their possessions because Steve and Gary tied the knot.
my morals define my religion... not the other way around. God could show up tomorrow and tell us all that killing our parents is the only way to get into Heaven... and i'll be first in line to go to Hell.
lol i never said that the wheels didnt spin in the slot machine but if you look at the slot machine there is a handle on it but there is also a button that says credits on it and next to that there is another button that say max bet and next to that there is a button that says spin which makes the wheels move that is called electronic most all slot machines that made now adays are electronic you have to understand casinos are there to take your money its a buisness they are not there to give money away your father that owns a casino should know this