Wednesday, 20 August 2008

  • Question of the Day: No Christian Friends

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    During a brief chat with someone the other day, this person (who is a Christian) said, "I'm okay with not having Christian friends."

    Is it okay for Christians to not have fellowship with other Christians? If so, who is to help keep them Biblically accountable if none of his/her friends are believers? (And let's not get into the whole "atheists have morals" thing here. We know atheists have morals too, but I'm speaking strictly about Biblical accountability.)

Comments (77)

  • esuzannah@xanga

    I do not think it is ok. We are suppose to have fellowship.


    Personally, I did not really start growing until I had christian friends. I didn't have any for a long time- it really stunted my christian growth. Praise Jesus I have them now and I have never been closer to Him.

  • AGraceB@xanga

    I think it depends on the type of Christian friendship. Some Christians get sucked into an exclusively Christian, incredibly church-centered social life, to the exclusion of everything else.

    I do think some sort of faith community is important, like having a prayer group or a Bible study, because faith shouldn't have to exist alone. It's better if you can talk about it, openly and honestly, and have people to pray with and for you.

  • mixcoolchick@xanga

    we have a much harder time through our journey if we don't have christian friends. A lot of times those friends will understand us better than those who aren't christians.  And they won't try to make us change. They will want to help us grow in our relationship with God.

  • Pass_the_Aura@xanga

    Jesus was known as "the friend of sinners." 

    Coming from the religious people of his day, that wasn't exactly a compliment.  (Think, "There's that guy who hangs out with hookers, drug dealers, and corrupt politicians.")

    Coming from sinners, it was.

    Not to discount the importance (indeed I'd say the necessity) of regular fellowship with people who can encourage you in your walk with God.  But the "salt of the earth" ought to get out of the shaker.

  • quiet_strength

    I think it is a little unhealthy when I Christian thinks they actually don't need Christian friends. While it is true that not all Christian friends are the kind you want, I definitely think it is important to have someone of like mind and like faith to lean on. But I also think it is a little unhealthy to only have Christian friends and not be able to relate to those outside your faith. We need to be in the world and showing them Jesus, and hopefully drawing people in. I know there are a lot of really wonderful people out there who are worth knowing that don't know Jesus. But the truth is, if we really believe in hell, we shouldn't be okay with just letting our friends be so we don't rock the boat or because they are cooler or easier to be around.

  • UTAlan@xanga

    @Pass_the_Aura@xanga - I don't think anyone is arguing that Christians should have exclusively Christian friends, just that they should have some.

    We were not created to be alone. We were created for fellowship and to be the body of Christ, working together for His glory.

    Is it okay? It's probably not sinful, per se. It's as much okay as not reading your bible or praying is okay. It's definitely not ideal nor is it what has been commanded of us.

  • Umnenga@xanga

    I think your first year or two you really need Christian friends but after that you should have a healthy balance.  You are not supposed to be keeping your faith to yourself and more often than not it is genuine friendship that gets people to repent.

  • SandraDeeDees@xanga

    If you are a Christian, don't you have a covenant with God? Why would you need a covenant with other Christians to keep each other accountable?

  • Kristenmomof3@xanga

    the bible tells us to fellowship with other believers

  • GodArt@xanga

    @Pass_the_Aura@xanga - Yes, Jesus was a "friend of sinners," but he also had his intimate group of disciples. I heard someone say that three of Jesus' disciples were his closest confidants, and then the other disciples were a little less intimate with him, then the rest he came in contact with were not his bosom buddies, but he still hung out with them. I think that's a pretty good model. 

  • too_pretty_to_die@xanga

    i think it's fine.  i have Christian friends, but i would never discuss religion with them in any serious way.  it seems kind of stupid to be friends with someone for that reason alone.

  • jussbu@xanga

    @SandraDeeDees@xanga - Although we do have a covenant and relationship with God, he still places people there to help us grow in our walk. Plus, we can't handle ministry alone in this world..we need others right? Accoutability is Very important and it also says in Matt 29:41, "Watch and Pray that ye enter not into temptation; the Spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak." (KJV)


    Gal 6:1-3 says, "Dear brothers and sisters, if another believer is overcome by some sin, you who are godlyshould gently and humbly help that person back onto the right path. And be careful not to fall into the same temptation yourself. Share each other’s burdens, and in this way obey the law of Christ. If you think you are too important to help someone, you are only fooling yourself. You are not that important." (NLT)


    It says in Ecc 4:9-12, "Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. If one person falls, the other can reach out and help. But someone who falls alone is in real trouble. Likewise, two people lying close together can keep each other warm. But how can one be warm alone? A person standing alone can be attacked and defeated, but two can stand back-to-back and conquer. Three are even better, for a triple-braided cord is not easily broken." (NLT)


    John 15:13, "There is no greater love than to lay down one’s life for one’s friends." (NLT)

  • Royford@xanga

    Define Fellowship...
    Because I take part in plenty of dialogue with my Christian friends but I don't exactly enjoy their company on a level I'd consider 'fun'.
    As far as biblical accountability goes... I've had lots of Christian friends and I can't say any of them ever attempted to keep me 'accountable'. It's relatively a thing of the past or even myth. Unless you posess that rare bond of love with a friend or friends, where you can remain objective about each others faith. I agree it shouldn't be rare... but speaking out of personal experience - it's quite uncommon.

  • jediwa72@xanga

    I personally feel my strongest when I am surrounded by Christian friends.  But I do think that some people can not have close Christian friends but still fellowship with other Christians. 

  • nita105

    Christians should have other Christian friends for purposes of fellowshipping and encouraging one another not to mention praying one for another.


    To be a Christian and have no affiliations or relationships with others Christians should cause one to examine themself. I do think that as Christians we have to think outside of the box and be wise to win souls for the Lord. the only reason we would "hang" with non-Chrisitans should be to minister to them so if we are ministering and ministering and no one is getting saved, we should continue to pray for them but move on to others that will receive the gospel.


    This is very unusual. As for accountability, the Holy Spirit was given to lead and guide us into all truth and righteousness. He convicts us and we are accountable to Him first and foremost.

  • Pass_the_Aura@xanga

    @UTAlan@xanga - @GodArt@xanga - I agree.  I've just seen too many people who use "having Christian friends" as a buzzword for "being completely submerged in the American Christian subculture without any contact with the outside world."  Of course, doing it the right way (i.e. having fellowship with believers who encourage you in your faith and witness) is not only good but necessary.

  • yurkidding@xanga

    i think it's important to have Christian friends, but i do not think it's morally wrong or sinful to have friends who are not Christians.

    given that our heads are screwed on tight and we live lives that are grounded in God's word and founded in prayer, it is crucial that some of our friends be non-believers. this is where Jesus' heart is.

    however, one's group of friends should not solely be non-Christians. i'd say that his/her closest (inner circle) friends should be composed of doers and hearers of the Word. =)

  • sugartomyhoney@xanga

    Great comments.  God's word tells us to fellowship with other believers.  If you are fellowshipping you are creating a relationship with that person of some sort.  It doesn't mean that has to be our only circle of friends, and indeed it should not be.

    Basically, I think the same as just about everyone else who has commented.

  • SwordAndSacrifice@xanga

    There is a difference between "fellowship" and just being friends or hanging out with someone.


    Huge difference.

  • SwordAndSacrifice@xanga

    @SandraDeeDees@xanga - Well, by that measure, why have any relationships with any human outside of God?


    Because we need them, that's why. God tells us as much. The first thing Jesus did when He started His ministry was to go out and found 12 people to work with Him.

  • Doubledb@xanga

    Sometimes I wish I had friends who are not Christian(s)... just to be broader in my life and to share Christ with them if it comes up... but I suppose it is such a big part of my life and I feel so much more comfortable with people like myself.

  • the_artist_21@xanga

    I believe you should have at least one Christian friend to fellowship with and to lean on, bounce off ideas that might not be a good idea with others. Of course, you probably can have fellowship with Christians that are not your friends (ppl at church). But, I still think it's a good idea to have some Christian friends.

    You should also have some other friends from other groups. How else are you going to get the Word out. It will keep going in circles between Christians. So, if you can, then it's a good idea to also have some other friends (just don't let them influence you too much. Keep to the Word)

  • bittersunday@xanga

    @Doubledb@xanga - Us non-Christians can be quite friendly and we're usually up to befriending people from all kinds of religious beliefs.  Or at least, I know I am.  It's not that hard to find us or to befriend us.  It's not like we hid in caves or anything.

    But please keep in mind that no one likes to be a personal conversion project.

  • Rain_of_Mystic_Sorrow@xanga

    I am not a Christian but I used to be.  This whole question about "associating" with non Christians is ridiculous.  How often did Jesus get criticized for having friends among sinners and tax collectors?  For allowing a prostitute to wash his feet.  And then he told her that she was saved.  In fact, it is always good to remember that there was only one person to whom Jesus promised he would see in heaven. The thief who was crucified along side him.  "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." (Mat 7:21). You cannot know the heart and soul of "sinners" and have no right to judge them.  If your intention is to truly seek and save the lost, you must associate with the lost.  You must befriend them, know them, love them.  The way Jesus would have loved (presumably still loves) them.  Jesus himself did not judge even those that were too afraid to follow him.  He condemned those in spiritual power, the Pharasies, who passed judgments and made life difficult for the poor by enforcing strict and unnecessary rules.  Jesus "worked" on the Sabbath, something considered a sin at the time. 
    You might wonder why I say I am not a Christian.  I was in a very strictly biblical church until I was 14.  But I never felt close to God, never felt right in my life until I stopped kidding myself, especially in regards to whom I would be friends with.  You know what, my non Christian friends were a better moral influence on me than my Christian ones. Because the kids that had casual sex, got drunk and experimented with drugs were Christian.  The ones that appeared righteous, that wore their faith like a badge for everyone to see.  And they looked down on me for not being like them.  Sorry it just gets me riled when I see things like this question.  Because not only is it unfair, and hurtful to people like me, it is an unchristian attitude.  My morality is not wrapped up in the building where I worship or the crowds of people pretending to be holier than they are.
    I do not mean to insult any of you who are Christian.  I still have several friends that are Christian and my whole family as well.  And I see that mostly everyone who has commented admitted that having non Christian friends is perfectly okay.  I just have a problem with the need to ask this kind of question at all.

  • shillyshara@xanga

    Christians are called to "go into the world and share the gospel" (see Matthew 28), so there is definitely a Biblical mandate to be in the world and being friends with the world. Jesus did that. Even back in the beginning, God said, "It is not good for man to be alone."

    But there's also the need to be in Christian fellowship (see Acts 2:42-47). Ecclesiastes 4:9-12 says that we are better together than alone. I have some really solid Christian friends who keep me accountable and encourage me on a regular basis. But I also hang out with non-Christian friends too, because I love them too. There's definitely a good balance. We weren't meant to live in a vacuum, and spending mass quantities of time with people whose values and beliefs are not the same as yours can open you up to compromise a lot easier. Not saying we shouldn't hang out with people who are different. It's just healthy to have a balance to keep your compass pointed north, so to speak.

    My boyfriend has the non-Christian friends thing down pat. It's the Christian thing he's working on, hehe. He recently joined a Bible study, and he came out of it so joyful and encouraged. It made me so happy to know that he was going to be seeking Biblical accountability and fellowship, and that it would benefit him.

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