Thursday, 07 August 2008
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I Still Can't Find Fellowship!
by mrs violet
If the first lesson that the Lone Ranger taught me was to stand up for injustice then the second lesson that I learned from the Lone Ranger was that I don't want to be one. I don't find anything appealing in going about it alone. And yes, while he did have his faithful side kick Tonto, I believe as Christians we are called to be a part of something greater than ourselves.The Bible calls this greater thing being in fellowship with the other believers around you. Traditionally, our churches are a good starting point, but in this day and age, Christian fellowship takes on many shapes and forms, particularly as many are on a quest to find more authentic New Testament ways of church and life.
To be completely honest, I am finding fellowship a little difficult right now. Making friends can be hard (especially when you feel like you're still in transition) let alone forming the types of friendship where you feel safe enough to relate to one another and share with one another in the way the New Testament speaks of. I go to church, I have polite conversations, yet fellowship seems to allude me.
I haven't come close to forming those kind of relationships where I feel like I am part of something bigger. I know in my head that I am, because I am part of the Body of Christ, but my heart doesn't feel very connected to the people around me. I know without a shadow of a doubt that I own some major responsiblity in all of this; some of my own feelings, insecurities and lack of commitment to this group are standing in the way.
I know also that it is a healthy thing for me to be more deeply connected with other believers around me. I don't really want to be a Lone Ranger by name, nor by nature. While a faithful companion is nice, I would rather feel like part of a family.
I am sure I am not alone in all of this.
Could you share with me some of your own journey in becoming more deeply connected to other Christians around you? Have you ever experienced difficulty establishing fellowship?
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oh have i! although i've always had christian friends, i haven't been truly plugged into a church until this year. it made all the difference to me and my spiritual growth. it's still difficult because friendships will always take time, and i'm not as outgoing as i'd like you to think. but meeting regularly in small group and serving in ministry has been great and so rewarding. i love getting to know my church family, even if i don't know them all that well yet. it's definitely a process.
i know you've got your hands full with your own family, but if you have an opportunity to serve at your church, i would highly recommend it. it's a great way to meet people and there's more opportunity and reason to talk and fellowship when you're there doing the same thing.
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I lived in Houston for over a year, and made all of 2 or 3 "friends". Those I did make were work buddies, honestly. We didn't work very hard at finding a church home, and didn't do a good job of fellowship at all.
Now, we are back "home", and actually looking back at our experience there and doing things differently this time. We have already found a new church, and the people there are a big part of us enjoying it there. What I've found is, that finding fellowship takes work on my part. So I have to ask others to do things, I have to go to the events and get myself invovled, I have to take the step outside of my comfort zone. Once I have done the work, then I truly believe God will fill the rest in.
Sadly is really hard to find the right people to get along now, everything is so relaxed that a true christian could find himself all alone in the middle of the church that is supposed to be our home.
Mrs. Violet,
I can totally relate as I'm in a somewhat similar situation. We are still not settled in a new church home, but I have retained friendships with women from other churches. Those friendships are one thing that has kept me going during this of transition.
I'd recommend your taking the plunge and getting into a small group at your church and/or an interdenominational Bible study. (Shameless promotion here: If you've never done so, and there's a class in your area, please check out Bible Study Fellowship. It's an interdenominational study, so you will meet women from all sorts of churches, something I have really come to value in the past few years.)
We do need that fellowship you describe. One way to go deeper in fellowship is to be genuine, to share from the heart. It's risky because sometimes you'll be burned. But as you're authentic with others, you'll find others who are wanting that same deeper fellowship. And we know that our Father knows what we need and He does desire for us to be in fellowship with other believers, so continue to persist in prayer. He will bring you the fellowship You need in His perfect time.
Will be praying for you.
Your sister in Christ,
Karen
Yes, yes, yes. I attended college in a small town and went to church in this same town. I stayed put when I graduated and continued to attend the same church. Now, I love my church, but I notice that they don't know quite how to deal with college-aged singles. My age group takes up about 20 percent of the congregation, and I think they're just intimidated or overwhelmed by us. While I'm slowing starting to feel a part of my church, it is very difficult to become fully integrated, and a lot of that is due to my own hesitancy to be vulnerable.
Heck, it probably isn't my church; it's me. But I am trying.
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Most of the churches I've been part of have small group Bible studies. I've formed most of my friendships in new member classes, Bible study groups, softball teams, the translation team, the benevolence ministry. The quality of the friendships has been largely related to my own willingness to be transparent.
If you're only attending church services and not involved in anything smaller, it's hard to connect.
i'm in the same boat. half of my friends are very hardcore Christian and don't consider my faith to be conservative enough. they have Bible studies weekly... and while i've been invited, my opinions would not be welcome.
and the other half of my friends aren't religious at all.
if anything, my experience has taught me that i don't need other Christians to validate my own faith and the way i honor God.
Yes I have at time, especially when moving to new places... New churches, new social life - its all new and different, and sometimes takes months or years to integrate (I consider myself introverted if that matters). I was on "christianforums" for a long time... I also pass the time by watching movies, I use Netflix. But there is no magic trick too meeting people, its just getting out there - too churches and events and maybe even taking any local classes at colleges or bible schools/seminaries around you.
I used to have trouble with my fellowship. it started when I was in my confirmation class 4 years ago... I was the shy kid who never talked to anyone. And that was every other Sunday, for two years. After the confirmation retreat, which changed my life, I decided that I would come back and become a mentor, a teacher, for the next confirmation class. I told my coordinator in the interview, that I didn't want to be that quiet kid anymore, that I wanted to change, and help others see change as well, to grow in their faith and love for God.
Now, here I am, two years later. My class just got confirmed... and my confirmation team, is my second family. We have our ups nd downs, but they are my closest friends, which is the best feeling in the world because not only am I able to talk to them about everyday problems and joke around with them, but I'm also able to talk to them about my faith... I'm also able to pray with them.
I'm only 19, but somehow it feels really good to know I found lifelong friends through sharing a similar faith... I never imagined I would find best friends from the confirmation class I never talked to. Many people here are right in what they said... it's about stepping out of your comfort zone and believing that you can change yourself for your faith. Once you're able to do that, just let God do the rest of the work for you, He will eventually lead you to your fellowship.
I understand exactly how you feel... I find it difficult to make new friends also. My hubby and I have just begun attending a new church that I hope in time will make me feel like part of the family. Being shy, I understand that even without realizing it, I sometimes make it difficult for people to approach me. Luckily, we have a place to express these feelings honestly here on Xanga and I've made some very close friends here. Hang in... things will get better.
Glo
I've had varying levels of success, and few relationships from church ever surpass a superficial aquaintance... even after being in home groups with them.
An excellent topic. This has been one of the biggest issues in my life since becomming a believer in Christ. Lack of fellowship (not my desire.) To say lack of fellowship has severely negatively affected my life is a gross understatement.
In my experience, the smaller the fellowship, the better. I often really enjoy home fellowships.
The problem is, that I really believe for varying reasons, the moajority of church-goers today are either baby Christians who do not truly know how to live the spiritual life as a Christian, they are deceived by false doctrines or practices, they are caught up in worldliness, and show partiality in the church which God despises, or their spiritual fervency and love for people is dimmed and lacking in sincerety.
Before I used to be really defensive about letting people get to really know me. I thought that my past would turn people away. I wasn't recognizing that everyone was broken and that some people were actually trying to love me, but I wasn't allowing it.
It takes alot of wisdom and discernment. best tip I can give is that, find someone that you want to be friends with, give them a chance by opening up with them. take some risks and invest into people even when they might not love you back. take initiative sometime, and be patient. Because relationships take time to build.
@Roadkill_Spatula@xanga - The bigger they are, the harder they fall. I believe this is also true of many of these megachurches.
To me, they seem like a great big government beurocracy. Sure it looks great and has lot of gadgets, money and power, but it is inneffective and impersonal, while making you feel like you are on the right track.
And to quote my above post:
'The problem is, that I really believe for varying reasons, the moajority of church-goers today are either baby Christians who do not truly know how to live the spiritual life as a Christian, they are deceived by false doctrines or practices, they are caught up in worldliness, and show partiality in the church which God despises, or their spiritual fervency and love for people is dimmed and lacking in sincerety.'
I'm really shy/quiet in new settings, so it takes me a while to feel like I'm a part of things.
I started attending a new church in January. I MADE myself go to the Wednesday night dinner/prayer meeting at the pastor's house..and made myself be faithful to go. I joined the church softball team..even though I've never played softball other than PE in school. I volunteered to help with VBS.
I definitely don't always feel like I am connected, but I think that's just me. And while the relationships are not what I pictured them to be, they've taken root and are growing.
For some reason, it was a lot easier to make new friendships/relationships with my classmates when I first started school here than it was at a the church I was attending. And really, all my classmates and I have in common is that we're in the same program/classes.
I know that I cannot rely on others making the first step. I need to be proactive. And I know that most relationships/friendships don't form overnight. They take time.
6 years I've been a christian, and 6 years I've never had true fellowship where I feel I truly belong. Yes, there's the "polite conversations" but I haven't been able to expose more of my deeper self for fear of condemnation. I get along with some of my older friends from outside church who knows me from even before I became a christian.
Friendship and fellowship are very hard things to come by.
I know I myself find it hard to talk too much about my faith, although I am a firm believer, #1 because I don't want to turn people away and #2 because I can't very well put words around pieces of my faith life and prayer life.
So while I can have a pretty decent surface level relationship with people around me, the only steps toward fellowship that I find myself taking are my prayers for them.
Prayers are all good, great even, but I know that I really need to take a bigger step in reaching out to people. I need to actually take the courage to bring up the topic in conversation some time, see what response I get: who leaves, who chimes in, etc.
I know I have all these romanticized visions of these situations falling out perfectly - and who knows! They might. God works in mysterious ways - but I have never let Him show me how they will work out.
I'm going through the same thing. Haven't solved it yet, so can't give you much advice, just the support in knowing you're not alone in this problem.
>Mrs Violet:
If you find the perfect church don't join it because you'll ruin it..
.I used to be somebody? Not now. Had a big nineteen room house held large banquets once a month with about thilrty-five invited friends. All because I saw something about John Kennedy. If he saw soemmone interesting--I don't know exactly what that means,-- but the idea is easy and applicable: if he found somebody he liked he would invite them to dinner. My wife and I started doing that it works
You'll be amazed: there are lots of others right around you going through the same thing
. Gotta risk and reach out first.
Love how you're looking to be honest
Wish we were neighbors
george geoparis
About 2 years ago I graduated from college and moved to a city where I didn't know anyone. I never had any *deep* friendships in college, just good friends with whom I spent time and shared a little of myself. But they never shared as much as I did, so it always felt one-sided. When I moved, I was broken, because I didn't know a soul, and I had no idea where to even start looking for churches. Well, God knew what I needed and blessed me with the most awesome church, and the most amazing group of friends. We really do dig deep, we live life together, we are a constant part of each others lives. We pray together, rejoice together, mourn together. I ask them for help, and I give it in return. It's like being a part of a family, and I thank God for this. I believe this is what He had in mind when He formed the church and told them to fellowship together and to take care of each other. Hang in there... God will bring the right people into your life at the right time. In the meantime, I do encourage you to seek out friendships.
@Koolou@xanga - I think you are right about 'most' christians. They really are not walking the walk they talk. It takes aan effort on anyone's part to reach out to others. A REAL effort for some as indicated by the postings above.
The ideal small group size is seven. As time goes on, the trust builds between the group members and then deeper discussions can take place. One of my rules I use whenever I lead a small group is whatever is said in the group stays in the group, unless permission is given to share outside.