Wednesday, 06 August 2008

  • Minister Dresses Up as a Homeless Man...Churchgoers Ignore Him

    from pass_the_aura

    There are teachable moments.... and then there are Teachable Moments.  This utter gem of a story appeared in The Telegraph a few weeks ago (link here).

    Church minister shames congregation by dressing as tramp
    Churchgoers were left shamed after they ignored a tramp who turned out to be their minister in disguise
    By Martin Beckford, Religious Affairs Correspondent

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    The Rev Derek Rigby sat in the porch to his church as the congregation arrived for a Sunday service, hidden beneath a wig and scruffy clothes.

    He then settled on a pew in the church surrounded by syringes and began drinking from a can of beer.

    But none of the worshippers at the Trinity Methodist Church in Prestatyn, North Wales, spoke to him or offered him any help.

    The 51-year-old then took off his wig to reveal his true identity, before delivering a sermon based on the failure of the disciples to recognise Jesus Christ on the road to Emmaus after his resurrection. 

    Rev Rigby said: "It was interesting to see the reaction from people - I was totally ignored.

    "It showed that we don't recognise God at work and in each other."

    Rev Rigby, who was a police officer for 15 years before being ordained 20 years ago, has tricked congregations in the same way at his previous parishes in London and Newport, South Wales.

    He said: "In other places I was given as much as £4.50, a packet of biscuits and a blanket - but in Prestatyn I got nothing.

    "I told the congregation they are a stingy lot.

    "Everyone was amazed and later complimented me on my acting skill, though some said I had made them feel terrible."

    Describing how he avoided detection, he said: "I didn't shave for three days, made my hands and face dirty and drew on tattoos.

    "I bought some scruffy clothes at a charity shop, ripped the trousers, and put on a straggly wig and thick, broken glasses.

    "I then splashed lager over my clothes so I was stinking.

    "I looked in the mirror before the service and I didn't recognise myself."

    Chuchgoer John Sproston was one of the first to arrive at the service to see the "tramp" on the doorstep.

    He said: "We were all aghast when he took off his wig because he was very convincing."

    *    *    *

    For if a man wearing a gold ring and fine clothing comes into your assembly, and a poor man in shabby clothing also comes in, and if you pay attention to the one who wears the fine clothing and say, “You sit here in a good place,” while you say to the poor man, “You stand over there,” or, “Sit down at my feet,” have you not then made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?
       --James 2:2-4

    How would you react if this happened at YOUR church?

Comments (93)

  • RiceDaddy7@xanga

    Now THAT was an awesome sermon.

  • pmiller683

    First of all I applaud this minister for challenging his congregation out of their comfort zone. I only hope the church board is not voting to have him removed from his pulpit.


    I pray that something great comes out of this in his church – such as a ministry to the homeless, etc.


    I spent most of my adult life living and working in Los Angeles. I have seen, encountered and helped many homeless people over the years. I will admit the idea of helping homeless or ‘street’ people every time I met one would be too much to do in L.A. I did help many homeless in LA, but could not do it every time I encountered one.


    I have lived in Virginia for the last 10 years. Seeing homeless people is much less frequent.



    I have a personal policy I follow with regard to helping homeless - I do not give them money. I will give them food or buy them a meal.


    I came up with my personal policy In LA about 18 years ago. I met a homeless man in front of a 7-11 when he asked me to give him money. I told him I would not give him money, but I would buy him some food. After a bit of hesitation, he asked for a sandwich. I purchased the sandwich along with a drink for him and one for myself. After giving him the food and drink and returning to my car a watched him walk into the 7-11, pull a bottle of beer from the fridge and try to change exchange the sandwich for it. I immediately got out of my car, returned to the store, went to the counter and took back the sandwich I purchased; then walked back out.


    Ever since then I stick to my policy – no money.


    Now days, I do not encounter homeless in my area very often. When I do, typically they are on the median in the street asking for money from drivers as they are stopped at a red light. I will often pull through a drive through, buy some food, swing back to the light and give it to the person. I will also hand them a card or piece a paper with name, address and telephone information for them to contact a place for some long term and real help. There are several organizations in my area that provide some terrific help for the homeless.


    Matthew 25:39-41 (New International Version)


    39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'


    40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

  • la_faerie_joyeuse@xanga

    @Big_Esh@xanga - My problem is with the Christians who DO claim to be perfect (or at least better than other people).

    Thanks for the clarification, but honestly, most of the really awful "Christians" I've met in my life (and there have been a lot of them!) would always tell me I'm going to hell, and that they're better/smarter/more loved (by God) than me, just because they love Jesus and I don't. I'm always like, "wtf?" but of course I don't know anything about Christianity because I'm not Christian (sarcasm).

    Does my comment make a bit more sense to you now?

  • Big_Esh@xanga

    @la_faerie_joyeuse@xanga - @la_faerie_joyeuse@xanga - 


    Oh, I totally know where you are coming from, I have definitely seen my share of Christians like that as well.  I guess I just wanted to point out that Christians are not perfect, because a lot of people seem to think that they are supposed to act like that, or that they really are (such as the Christians in question).  And we aren't.  Heck, I do more stupid crap every day...anyways, that's why I also wrote in that post that we Christians need to quit freaking judging everyone left and right, like we have the right to do so.

  • deltadom@xanga

    It shows what are churches are really like?

  • agnophilo@xanga

    Great way to make a point, but "surrounded by syringes" somewhat defeats the point.  If someone is surrounded by multiple syringes, someone might move on by them out of fear.  That's pretty hardcore drug use for a homeless man.  Not to mention expensive.

    Aside from that, excellent exercise in making people feel rightly guilty.

  • NightlyDreams@xanga

    i have no problems with people using needles i just have a problem with the needles themselves.  knowing someone uses needles and seeing them in front of someone is completely different.  i was shocked to find a friend at work shotting themselves in the stomache for inselin the other day and got the all queezy get me away from this feeling but still having a strange let me want to look at this process happening thing too.

  • xxAce_Wingsxx@xanga

    I was in Chicago once, and their were some performers and beggers. Some of them didn't look like they really needed money, but my mom just walked on by. There was once homeless man sleeping on the streets, and it was cold, and I looked at her and she just ignored them all. I felt terrible and disappointed of her.

  • Battie@xanga

    i'd be willing to be that the only ones who are surprised by this are Christians. most ex-christians know the score & know that this is how a stunt like this will almost always go down.  I've met very few Christians that were *not* hypocritical, pious, self-righteous and full of themselves.

    The modern church is little more than a country club full of members who love to pat each other on the back & brag about how much of their salary they give to the church. but not a one of them would help out someone if they thought it would hurt their image to be seen doing so.

    christians seem to forget that Jesus helped lepers, prostitutes, the poor, and every one less fortunate that himself.

    being a christian is about following the teachings of Christ. Not about how pretending to be a christian is good for your image.

  • trunthepaige@xanga

    I live in a small town, he would have been helped. We get a lot of people coming to our chruch for help and we give it to them. Or we find someone how can help them. He never would a have been ignore. He would not have tried that here

    What the minister found was a wide spread cultural problem. People in urban areas ignore each other. The mentally ill and addicted are left to die, they are ignored. It is "somebody else's" job to help them. In towns like mind, there is no "somebody else"  we will help them. And that is why you don't see them on the street in smaller towns. Do you really think we don't have the mentally ill, drug addicts, and drunks in small towns?

  • agnophilo@xanga

    @NightlyDreams@xanga - Well no I mean if you have some understanding of different types of drugs, the ones that must be injected like heroine are among the most hardcore and expensive.  So that might make someone think twice (for several reasons) about approaching or trying to help someone.

    Aside from that it's a good idea.

  • joshuadmeans

    @la_faerie_joyeuse@xanga - Awesome. We're totally like 15 miles from each other. I go to Oglethorpe University, just south of Ashford Dunwoody.


    There's a really good church down in Atlanta off Ellis that I used to attend. Different churches come in and hold services in a parking lot on a nightly basis for homeless folks. I would go there to pray, enjoy the service, and work. To my knowledge, and this is from one of the churches that would do this, they also bring food and passes to various shelters. ... hmmm.  I'll find some others. Are you on facebook?

  • la_faerie_joyeuse@xanga

    @joshuadmeans - Ah, cool, Oglethorpe is actually pretty similar to Agnes, I hear, except co-ed.

    I'm on facebook but I'm not really comfortable giving you my full name just yet.  If you want, you can message me, or try to catch me on AIM sometime (zeldarosepoet).  But a warning - I'm not sure how much internet I'll be having over the next couple of days so it may take a while to get back to you.

  • smileykaytie@xanga

    i never talk to anyone new at church or basically anywhere including work and school just because im shy... im very unshy once you get to know me... but beforehand... i just never know what to say to people i dont know... i probably wouldve ignored him... but not because hes poor... id have ignored a rich lady too...

  • thekingofnonomia@xanga

    It doesn't surprise me in the least that he got this reaction. Try it yourself in any church and you'll find the same reaction.


    Christians are just regular people - NOBODY particularly likes drunk smelly folk!
  • rchrdsnjc@xanga

    I belong to a church called Gracepointe.  I consider our name to mean a point of grace.  A place where all are welcome, no matter if you have one penny to your name or millions.  We are a place where you come as you are-blue jeans or a really nice three piece suit.  It doesn't matter.  We have built a place of worship where we are able to help people that come in.  I know in my heart that if there was a homeless man sitting on our doorstep, we would bring him in, feed him some coffee and donuts (we have coffee and donuts every Sunday morning) and offer him a box of food-because we have a food bank-we also have a clothes bank-so we could clothe him, the reason I know that we would do this is because we have.  There is this man his name is Richard.  He walks around our town and has been poor for a long time.  At one point he didn't have a job, food or clothing.  So, one day our pastor saw him walking around down, so he picked him up and fed him, and brought him to church.  Since then Richard is doing good, he still comes to church and is fed, and he is helping others.  There is also a food program that we do through our church, it is called www.angelfoodministries.com  you can go to this site and check it out.  Our church distributes food every month.  You can get a box of food for $25.00, and it will feed a family of four.  It is a great way to witness too.  If you know of a family that needs help with food, you can buy one for your family and another for another family and so on.  There are so many reasons to help others- and maybe just maybe we should recongnize that it is what GOD CALLS US TO DO!!!!!!!  So, God Bless you on your journey.  God Bless all those that need help.   Just remember the parable of the Good Samaritin.

  • anonymous

    Awesome story.  I'm an atheist and I was looking for stories on charity based on belief\ and found this article.  (I exxplain gthe reason for my search, below).

    I often give what I can, on occasion my last dollar, to homeless.  I figure, I will always have it better off than someone else, no matter how broke I think I am, and so I can always afford to give what I can. 

    Today, I discovered that a born again Christian friend of mine, and self-described follwer of Jesus and not religion, routinely ignores "beggars" and homeless rather than give them spare change.  I was stunned!  Surely, this is not what Jesus taught his followers??

    I'm glad to know there is a minister out there willing to show his flock their faults and try to lift them up above their petty greed and lack of compassion.  Sometimes the reason for this fault is people are simply too caught up in their own little world, too busy to notice the suffering of another.  More often than not, regardless of creed, people just don't care.  It's a shame.   

    Kudos to him and his creativity!

  • Renee_M

    @Renee M - My apologies for the typos.  I really should get in the habit of proofing my comment before hitting send! :)

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