Wednesday, 06 August 2008

  • Question of the Day: Bible Classes

    marigold by miss marigold

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    Bible courses were a staple of my high school career - if I remember correctly, I took a classes in 1 Corinthians, Missions, and Apologetics (my fave). A lot of my friends also took Spiritual Warfare and Revelation, which are two courses I really wish I could've taken but would not fit my schedule.

    At college, I took a couple of theology courses and LOVED it - if I could take on another major/minor, that'd definitely be it. Now that I have the staple Faith & Critical Reasoning and Intro to the Old Testament under my belt, I wish I had time to take a course on the writings of Augustine or perhaps History of the Catholic Church...or maybe something on the history of the modern American church!

    So, if you could take a course on any Bible or Christianity-related subject...what would it be?  

Comments (51)

  • Mizmazed@xanga

    Understanding Psalms and Proverbs. 

  • haemina@xanga

    ancient greek or hebrew so i could read the bible in its original translations.

  • mrsviolet

    I think I would like to learn more about Apologetics.  I know very little about it.

    x

  • Evowookiee@xanga

    I am a huge fan of Hebrews.  I took OT and NT, Faith and Critical Reasoning (they called it something else at my Baptist College.)  My New Testament Class changed my perception forever.

  • knlwinters@xanga

    I have been through seminary so I have gone through many classes, but I could never get enough church history.  You learn so much about your faith when you look at the struggles and the accomplishments of God's Church over time.  It really caused me to stretch and grow in my own faith.

  • Evowookiee@xanga

    I think, however that EVERY Christian needs to take an 'origins of the Bible' class.  You don't know how many Christians believe that the Disciples read the 'King James Version" of the Bible.  They have no clue as to all the work that went into creating the Canon.

  • Pickwick12@xanga

    I took a class in comparative worldviews in college (from a Christian perspective), which was awesome.

    Last year I took Old Testament Survey, and I would love to take another Old Testament-focused course, maybe about a specific person like Abraham or Joseph, or I would really like to study the book of Judges and better understand the history and cycles of Jewish apostasy, as well as the lives of the individual Judges.

  • GodArt@xanga

    Since I've already taken a ton of them, one I'd still like to take is angelology, the study of angels and demons. That would be fun. 

  • joshx80@xanga

    discerning God's will...

  • missmarigold

    @Evowookiee@xanga - AGREED. My Faith & Critical reasoning professor was more than a little disappointed when people actually answered on their midterm that Catholic priests wrote the Bible!! And the sad thing is...I go to CATHOLIC SCHOOL...so it's not like people shouldn't know this.


    and then a lot of my friends still believe that Moses wrote all of Genesis by himself...never mind that parts of Genesis talk about things that happened after Moses died....

  • Pieces_of_a_Melody@xanga

    Heehee... I'm majoring in Missions, so I'm taking a lot of Bible classes. I'm particuarly excited for Theology (I, II, and III) and Developing a Biblical Worldview. And I'm excited about Old Testament I and II, because although I've read much about the OT, I'd like to learn more!

  • Evowookiee@xanga

    @missmarigold - That is the difference between learning history...and learning tradition.

  • nimbusthedragon@xanga

    ...people take classes about this stuff? *gasp*

  • MysteriumFidei@xanga

    @missmarigold - Paul, Peter, John, Jude, and Timothy *were* Catholic priests. And they did help write the Bible. Granted, not all of the guys who wrote the New Testament were priests, but at least those five were.

    "Genesis talk about things that happened after Moses died"

    Genesis doesn't talk about anything that happened after Moses died. Deuteronomy does, but not Genesis. Genesis ends several hundred years before Moses was born.

    I would probably take a class on the Eastern fathers of the Church.

    @Evowookiee@xanga - You are correct. The development of the canon took several hundred years and was still being debated even after the first Œcumenical Council. It did not just fall from the sky into King James' Council. It was a long, hard, and very confusing process.

  • bittersunday@xanga

    Blah.  I went to a missionary kid boarding school and then a Christian college.  I've taken so many of these kinds of courses.  Apologetics, Discipleship, O.T. Survey, N.T. Survey, studies of the Gospels studies of the Epistles, a study of Romans, Calvinism (I went to Calvin College.  >_< ), a study on Creationism vs. Evolution, "World Religions" (which was pretty much "How to prove other religions wrong"), courses called "Know What You Believe and Why" and "Christian Living".

    And then my father is a theologian (an actual theologian...not like TheologianCafe or whatever) so I grew up talking about Catholic doctrine, Tertullian, Clement of Alexandria, the Councils of Nicea and Trent, and St. Jerome at the dinner table.

    So yeah.  I've had more than my share of Bible / Christian classes.  I don't want to take another one for a very long time.

    And to think that people assume that atheists know nothing of the Bible!  Jeeze.  I know more about the Bible and Christian theology than most Christians I know.

  • bittersunday@xanga

    @nimbusthedragon@xanga - Yeah.  They do.  If you go to a religious school, you have to take those kinds of classes in order to graduate.

  • missmarigold

    @MysteriumFidei@xanga - whoops, my bad.I'm doing too many things at once! I did mean Deuteronomy *facepalm* I really do have friends who think that Moses composed Genesis - Deuteronomy though.


    My midterm was an essay test - people were answering that modern Catholic priests wrote the entire Bible by themselves.

  • Pickwick12@xanga

    @MysteriumFidei@xanga - Depends on your perspective, whether they were Catholic priests or not.

    I believe they were, in the sense that every Christian is a part of the catholic church of Jesus Christ.

    However, since I'm not Catholic, I don't believe they were Catholic priests, since the systemized Catholic church hadn't come into existence yet. I know you will disagree, and I have no problem with that, but I wanted to give another perspective.

  • Pickwick12@xanga

    @bittersunday@xanga - May I ask who your dad is, or is that too personal? Just curious if I would know his name.

    I'm curious if you had become an atheist before or after going to college at Calvin. How do you think it influenced you? (specifically, since it was obviously negative)

    Feel free not to answer if you don't feel like it. I'm just wondering.

  • MysteriumFidei@xanga

    @Pickwick12@xanga - I understand your perspective, but I guess my point is for a Catholic to believe that Catholic priests wrote the Bible is perfectly consistent for a Catholic understanding of the Church.

  • Pickwick12@xanga

    @MysteriumFidei@xanga - I agree. You seem to have a very consistent Catholic faith from the comments I see on here.

  • MHyatte@xanga

    Ready for it?
    Bible as lit.

  • bittersunday@xanga

    @Pickwick12@xanga - I'm not comfortable giving out that kind of information, since my father's last name is my last name, etc.  He's not super famous, like David Wright or Don Carson (although he studied under Dr. Wright and Dr. Carson is a close family friend).  My dad has written a few books though--mainly on patristics and what the early church fathers thought of Mary.  That's what he has his doctorate in.

    I was an atheist long before I attended Calvin or high school.  I went to Calvin because they gave me a bunch of scholarships for being a missionary kid.  I got accepted to other (not religious) colleges but they didn't give me enough money as Calvin did and because my family is poor I chose to go there.

    My experience at Calvin wasn't all negative, actually.  I made a lot of good friends there and it was a very accepting environment (it's one of the more "liberal" Christian colleges).  I just didn't like taking theology courses.  But I chose to go there, so I couldn't really complain since the courses were required.

    The negative experiences at had at Calvin were very personal and had nothing to do with religion.

  • Pickwick12@xanga

    @bittersunday@xanga - Very interesting. Thanks for the response. I'm glad you had some positive times at Calvin. My cousin went there and I considered it, but I assumed that I wouldn't enjoy taking courses from a Calvinist perspective.

    As a PK I can definitely understand the financial concerns. Some schools give more to PKs as well,

  • Biblerapture@xanga
    Your turn!

    Learning more about the bible is a great goal, but it would be better if we all first had a closer relationship with Jesus Christ.  Without that, the Bible is just another book.  Actually, it is 66 books written by "GOD" through 44 men.  It is sycronous from beginning to end in terms of the theme.


    I don't understand the discussion about some of the apostles (Paul was not an actual apostle) being Catholic priests?  Where did that come from?  I suppose if it helps you belive more in the bible, then it is a good thing, but who cares?


    The bible was written to show mankind they can be saved from their sins.  Old law failed, and Christ's death and resurrection saved us IF we believe in Him.  Nothing else.  "The wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ."  You can't 'work' for it.


    Study of the Word of God should be approached from that viewpoint.  Letting a personal God speak to us.  Our GOD is an amazing GOD!  He can do so much through us when we just allow Him.  That includes the bible especially.

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