Sunday, 13 July 2008

  • The Bible says: Obey Your Parents...even when it comes to your wedding?

    by miss plumeria

    When it comes to wedding planning, Mr. Plumeria has given me full reigns of everything.  It makes things so much wedding-revelife easier.  Since he's been really busy with work and other things, I've taken it upon myself to plan a simple, within the budget, yet elegant wedding.  Whenever I have an idea or suggestion, I run it through with him and he usually says, "oh, that's a good idea" or "whatever you think is best."  I wish he'll be in this agreeing mode all the time even after we get married. :)  Lucky for me Mr. Plumeria has been so pleasant during this process.  However, I'm not so lucky when it comes to Mama Plumeria.  Usually when I have an idea and I run it through my mom, her initial answer is NO.  Here's a conversation that we had early in the planning process:

    Plumeria: I think I want our wedding colors to be purple and yellow.  Mom, what do you think?
    Mom: PURPLE? NO!!  That's like death colors.  In Korea, it's like the color for funerals.
    Plumeria:  Oh.  But purple could be really pretty if I pick the right shade and yellow is so bright and happy.
    Mom: NO.  Do pink instead.  Everyone does pink.  Pink is for wedding.
    Plumeria: Oh.  I don't want to do pink.  EVERYONE DOES PINK!  I want purple.
    Mom: NO PURPLE OK!  NO PURPLE.
    Plumeria: Oh.  Ok...

    And here's a more recent one:   

    Plumeria: Mom, what do you think of having O (Age 3) and C (18 months) as my ring boys since they're family.  (O and C are my cousins' kids and they're the only babies in my family.)  We don't have any girl kids/toddlers/babies in our family, so what if we just do 2 boys?  They're so cute!
    Mom: NO.  Two boys???  That's not right!  You need a girl!  I'll find you a girl.
    Plumeria: Oh.  NO!  I don't know any girls that I like and it's too much work to find one and have to coordinate with them if they're not family. 
    Mom: I'll find you a girl.
    Plumeria: Oh.  Nevermind then.  No ring boy or flower girl then!

    It's been a stressful time.  I've pulled out the "It's my wedding, not yours!  I'm going to do what I want!" card many times.  And afterwards, I've felt terrible for yelling at her and being selfish.  I know the Bible say to obey our parents, but does it mean I have to listen to them about every wedding decision?  In Mr. Oak's post, he said that we should try to understand the intention behind what they say and that they only want the best for us.  I do believe that my mom wants me to have a beautiful wedding, but where do I draw the line?

    What would you do?  

Comments (57)

  • alicia

    See the whole process as a way to glorify God. I mean, you should get approval from God rather than your mom right?


    If you do it that way, you know in the end your wedding day will please God and He will change all situations around for you.

  • resolved2worship@xanga

    I did a wedding not as I really wanted, but was too afraid not to please my inlaws -- I so regret that, and my husband does too - we should have stood up for ourselves, in the right way, and said, "No. we are doing the wedding the way we've dreamed." -- I think it's important to let parents know you are becoming your own couple, family, whatever -- how much control they have during the wedding, is a sign of what will continue after you marry -- and from personal experience, parental control and such can be so damaging and hurtful in a marriage. I would say respectfully let them know this is a new stage in life beginning now and decisions are between you and the one you are marrying period. :)

  • Andrea_TheNerd@xanga

    I thought the commandment said "honor" your parents, not "obey".  Autonomy doesn't have to be dishonorable.  Simply tell them that it is your wedding, and that you appreciate all the help they are giving you, but you are respectfully doing things your way.

  • UnworthyofHisgrace@xanga

    I would say you should start practising another thing the Bible says about marriage, Leave and Cleave. Your mom needs to realize you are entering into your OWN family now and have your own descisions to make JUST LIKE SHE DOES  and did at that time in her life. Parents want to keep their kids from making mistakes,but forget that they themselves learned so much from mistakes they made. Why take that learning experience away from your GROWN UP kids. Sure, you hate to see them make a mistake that maybe even you made yourself, but it's how we all grow.I know I'm getting off the subject here which I usually do  but the whole thing here is PARENTS, LET YOUR KIDS GROW UP. Then you can see how well you raised them. Did what you teach them stick? Will they see what you meant when the come against certain things in life and THEN understand where you were coming from? I've learned as a parent and grandparent myself, "Give advice, but never demand that they do this" It's their life and choice, all you can do is share your experience with what they are wanting to do and what could happen from it, but they have to be the one to make the decisions in the long run(I'm speaking of kids that are adults here, not children,big difference, and thats the problem parents have, they see their kids still as their little children) Thats about all the rambling I'll throw out for today  Hope it all works out. God's blessing on your marriage!


    ~Grampy~

  • TheRisingWriter@xanga

    You have to do what you want, but always be kind and nice to your parents.  If you yell at them, you'll end up having to do what they want to make amends, if you say, "I'm sorry, but this is my day and it just has to be the way I want, you'll get over it, don't worry mom," then her feelings are all about her, and you have still responded with love.


    As for obeying your parents because the bible says so, that's at best a general rule that can't be applied to everyone.  Some parents don't deserve to be obeyed.  What about parents who abuse their own kids?  The rule just doesn't make much sense if applied literally and without regard to the specific people.

  • Padooker@xanga

    We spent 83 dollars on our marriage, to get the US Embassy Clearance in Seoul.  I cannot recommend spending any more than is absolutely necessary by law.


  • yeahwutever@xanga

    I would sit her down and tell her that yes, it is your wedding and you shouldn't have to compromise. After all, it's your special day and you're not marrying your mom. If your future husband is happy with what you picked for your wedding, then no one else should have any other say other than suggestions. Don't let your mom guilt you either. It's her way of being selfish herself to give you something beautiful and be proud of it. You just have to tell her that she'll just have to be happy with helping and not taking the credit for the planning.


    Btw, purple is my favorite color and the right shade would go beautifully with yellow.


    Don't be discouraged by your mom.


    Congratulations! You're getting married!

  • renaissancerags@xanga

    What about parents who instruct their children to do bad things?  I know it's really dark and creepy, but I know children who have had their parents molest them.. tell them not to tell anyone, take their clothes off, etc.  Do children obey their parents in that case just because the Bible tells them to obey their parents?  Certainly not!  What your mother is doing... in a way.. is wrong.  It's your wedding.  I imagine she wouldn't have appreciated her mother telling her what to do with her wedding either.  Just politely tell her.. mom.. it's my wedding.  I really like the color purple and I'd appreciate it if you'd respect that.  Even if she is paying for it, you'd think she would want her daughter to have everything she wants on her special day... Just my opinion...

  • Calinda@xanga

    Ahhh...weddings. So much joy - so much aggravation. As a newlywed, I can say that for some reason, people (family, friends, strangers) feel burdened to give unsolicited advice and always have an opinion on YOUR wedding - they just assume you want to hear it! I butted heads frequently with my mother-in-law to be and  a couple of times with  my mom.

    I agree with camdenjoneses idea. You need to honor your mom while planning your wedding. But obey her on pink versus purple dresses? This is a matter of opinion for her -  purple dresses are not a spiritual moral issue! This is you and Mr. Plumeria's special day. These are your choices to make. Is your mom really that hung up on purple dresses as a matter of principal or because she needs her own way in this?
    At the end of the day, for my wedding, I can safely say that my husband and I honored both sets of parents in God's eyes - but still planned our own wedding and did it our own way.

    Don't make a choice to please another. You really want to look back on your wedding with delight and happy memories of that day (including the color of bridesmaids dresses). I loved our wedding and wouldn't do anything differently (well maybe one small detail) and we made choices that some thought were odd and not "traditional".

    The Lord be with you! :)

    p.s.  If you are looking for a great resource check out "Bridal Bargains by Denise and Alan Fields. We used that book, learned a lot and saved around $4 to 5K!

  • Boss_Lady0952@xanga

    Speaking as a parent, I have to say:  It is your wedding, and it should be how you want it. 


    It's unfair to both you and the parent to ask for an opinion just to be nice and make the parent feel involved - especially if you know what you want and will not want to change something if the parent's opinion differs.  It will also cause unnecessary conflict.  Ask for an opinion about something that really doesn't matter to you, or don't ask at all - particulary when the parent is offering unsolicited advice or is intruding by inserting his/herself unasked.  You can still help them feel a part of things by keeping them informed. 


    Since you are getting married, I assume you are an adult.  It is scriptural to honor the parent by being respectful - but in no way does that obligate you to let that parent override your desires in your own wedding.  Of course, if that parent threatens to withhold money for the wedding, you'll have to choose whether to let him/her blackmail you like that (if you do, it will probably result in great resentment on your end) or to just have something very simple that you can afford yourself. 


    When our daughter married, her father and I told her and her fiance what the wedding budget would be, that they could use the money to have whatever kind of wedding they wanted, and that we would give them whatever money remained.  We also told them that we would help in whatever capacity they wanted. 


    They knew what they wanted and made most of the major decisions on their own (although they did ask our opinion at times), but we were able to enjoy helping out in smaller ways.  Not only was their beautiful (but simple) wedding a true reflection of them and their tastes, but they were very economical and came in well under budget - and had some money left to help them set up their home. 

  • kim@xanga

    @Palamides@xanga - I agree - there is a fine line between obeying and honoring your parents. You can pick your own colors for your wedding and still honor your mom with respect for her opinions. It's all in how you approach the subject. Ultimately you honor your parents by obeying God.

  • urbansouthuna@xanga

    The Bible doesn't say adults have to obey their parents. it says "children obey your parents". But it does say you have to honor them. Respect & obedience and two different things. Obedience would mean that you would have to do everything she says to do for your wedding, respect would be communicating & compromising (especially if your mom is footing any or all of the bill).

  • NaitoOfNarnia@xanga

    It's YOURS and your future HUSBAND's wedding. If it's a matter of cost, compromise. :) But it sounds like your mom is out to be controlling on this. MAYBE it's because your mom is scared? But even then, that's her problem to deal with...though it is understandable, too. The wedding needs to be special to you and your husband. I do agree that if she has a reason for all her negativity, then she should be adult enough to say what it is.


    It's not even a matter of obeying your parents, I'd say. You're not trying to even be disobediant or disrespectful. You were asking for input, not orders...for thoughts to consider, no a ruling or decisive action. We all need to remember that even us parents can be just as out of line as our kids can be...sometimes even MORE so. Stick to your guns, girl. Don't let your mom take over YOUR union to your mate. :)


    I'm sorry you're going through all of this. I can barely imagine just how depressing it feels when you do NOT have the support from one of the people you need it from the most. I pray you find a way to get what you want - and it's NOT selfish, I'd say - and still keep the peace.

  • eclectic_eccentric@xanga

    "Obey your parents" is a command to Christian children of Christian parents. So, two questions: Are your parents Christians? Are you a child? And, as someone mentioned above, in return the parents are not to exasperate their children.


    You aren't a child, and the Biblical teaching to adults is to honor their parents, something that is even harder to do than obeying. It is your wedding, and the question should be not, "what color will make my mom happy?", but "how can I include my mom in a way that she feels honored?" For example, if you want purple and yellow, you don't have to ask what she thinks, but you could ask to wear her amethyst jewelry on your big day. If she feels you are honoring her in your attitude, she might be less likely to be so exasperating.

  • NaitoOfNarnia@xanga
  • ForgottenEloquence@xanga

    It's your wedding, not hers.


    You're not being selfish.


    Purple is a nice colour, and it goes so nicely with yellow.


    There's a fine line between obeying someone and allowing them to be in control of your life.


    Besides, you only get one wedding day, so it's important that it's special for you and your husband before anyone else.

  • NaitoOfNarnia@xanga

    @resolved2worship@xanga - Very true. I'm sorry you didn't get the wedding you wanted? Maybe if you and your hubby decide to renew your vows? :) Or just have a SPECIAL ceremony JUST BECAUSE to celebrate your marriage? :D Do it up YOUR way. :D

  • shedinator@xanga

    Mom,


    You got a wedding. If you didn't get to do it your way, I'm sorry.  But this is my day, not yours, and we're going to do it the way Mr. Plumeria and I decide.

  • cobalt_redux@xanga

    There comes a time when one must realize that he or she no longer exists as a being derived from two people, but as an individual being with a distinctly individual mind.


    In other words, you don't have to listen to your parents all the time. And, really, you shouldn't.

  • auralay_ariemay@xanga

    I'd explain to her that I really value her and her opinion, but that the whole point of this wedding is to celebrate the starting of your new life...with him. That as much as her opinion and experience count, you really need to start practicing not letting her make decisions for you. Your independence from her and your new dependence on him is Biblically right -- you're gonna be one with this dude, ya know -- and by her letting you feel the freedom and blessing to make these ultimately trivial decisions now, she'll serve both of you better in the future.


    I'd probably write it all in a letter, too, then talk with her after she's read it and thought about it.


    It's all gonna be precious. Good luck!

  • Roadkill_Spatula@xanga

    I, too, am puzzled by your question, "What do you think?" (See lorili above). You say you're running your ideas by her, but the nature of her response indicates that she has veto power.


    I sure hope you don't approach parenting the same way. "Johnny, I think it's time for you to go to bed. What do you think?" "Susie, don't you think it would be a good idea to get out of bed now so you can go to school?" It's a different relationship, but you'd be surprised how many people talk to their children like this.

  • OsuwarInuyasha@xanga

    That's why eloping goes through almost every couples head when planning a wedding... I thought about eloping instead. lol

  • rebirth2008@xanga

    lmao not on your wedding day YOUR NOT A BABY THEN OBEY YOUR PARENTS WHEN YOUR UNDER THEIR HOUSEHOLD AND RESPECT THEM WHEN YOUR NOT IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU MUST AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THEY SAY

  • AYlEENAX3@xanga

    If it was me, I'd do whatever, I'd want, it's my wedding and no one can change it. Or I'd probably just try to make everyone happy the best I can even if it might become all complicated >__< I think that's the best way to settle it. 

  • Things_Left_Unsaid_06@xanga

    Remember the Bible says to "HONOR" your parents which means to place value on them...not so much say how high when they say jump

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