Friday, 27 June 2008
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God Is Not a Big Part Of My Life..What Do I Do?
from laurenmaureen
God is a part of my life, I can tell you that, but how huge of a part? Honestly, not very. Don't get me wrong. I believe in God.I just don't really know how to be closer with Him, other than by praying. I pray when I need to. I pray when I hear something that scares me a lot, when my friend tells me about her family problems, and when I just need a lot of assistance. I pray when I'm confused, hurt, scared, or worried mostly.
Sometimes I wish it were more than that, you know? Sometimes I wish that I had that special relationship with Him that some people talk about. I wish I knew more about my religion. I wish that the practices didn't... embarass me.
I love my religion, but sometimes, I feel like I love it in the wrong way. My favorite holiday (or one of them) is Christmas, but sometimes I think it's because of the snow and the presents rather than the fact that it is Jesus's birthday. I feel guilty for sometimes not wanting to go to caring group [our youth group]. I sometimes feel like wanting to go to church is stupid. I'm being totally honest here, because I feel like my first step is admitting my thoughts.
I feel so horrible writing all this, but I pray that God will forgive me.
How do you get closer to God when you feel like your spiritual life is shallow or not going anywhere?
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Thank you for your honestly, I believe that it is a very real situation that many believers are coming across today. complacency and mediocrity in their faith. I believe that it is because of the way our western society is and because of the many lies of the devil. I believe that the relationship with God is the most important part of Christianity, and that a true Christian should look different than someone from the world. Understanding God is Love, but he is always holy and just and perfect, and that everybody sins and is separated from God.
Matthew 7:21
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who
does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Matthew 12:50
For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."
Sometimes it's not very clear what this means. Some people wonder "Does this mean I have to sell all my possessions and give it to the poor"? Many of the truths in the bible seem very hard and unrealistic to live out. And I believe that understanding of these things can only come to you by the grace of God through his Spirit which will lead you to all truths. Seek Him out and His Love. Understand what an eternity perspective is, because we are eternity beings. Understand that he usually gives us gifts and blessings so that we may be blessings to others, and we should live lives glorifying God. Come to a point of surrender, recognizing that we are sinners and broken people, depraved, and we need him to regenerate us into his righteousness. We need to truly accept Christ into our lives. not just believing intellectually, or having an emotional experience. but choosing to follow him as an act of will. Only then can we experience God and his wonderful plan for our lives. We need to trust in him, that he wants what's best for us, and only by experience him working in your like and working through you can you really see his love and revelations of his truths. There are many lies in this world that promise to give you satisfaction, such as money, friends, power, fame, etc. but in the end it's only God that can truly satisfy. It may take time, but I believe that you are on the right track because you are seeking and God is working in your life. May You be filled with all understanding and joy of the Lord. May God bless you so much.
Paul
I have been feeling the same way myself to be honest with you...
What a great post. I think most people can identify with you. I know I can. When I feel this way, I know I need to get out of my comfort zone. I need to let God challenge me. I read my Bible more, study it, get into it on a deeper level. I know that when I feel like that I need to lead a Bible study because that forces me to go deeper. (I lead a Xanga one on Wednesday nights if you want to come!) This summer I really feel like I need stretched so I'm going to Kosovo for 16 days on a mission trip. I know that God hasn't moved away from me, I just get distracted and I'm the one who distances myself from Him.
@IssyMae@xanga - wow that's great! you're doing more than I am to get closer... I should learn from you. I might consider that Bible study of yours on Xanga
congrats on going on the mission trip. that's fantastic!
You're right, the first step is realizing that the relationship is lacking. So many people go through life never making that realization...thinking, oh, I'm a Christian even though they don't have that personal relationship or the fruits in their life. So, congrats on knowing where you're in that regarding that.
The second thing is just to talk to Him about all this. When you're praying, instead of just asking for protection or whatever...have a conversation with Him about all these feelings you're experiencing...ask Him to come in and bridge that gap and help you to get closer to Him. Also, spend some time in the Word...learning about Him and his 'practices.' The ones you're embarrsed about...most likely are the ones that aren't really Jesus's style anyway. It's hard out there 'cause there are so many different 'forms' of Christianity and people claiming to be Christians and not living like it, or being legalistic or whatnot. The most important thing is your relationship with Jesus, your one on one thing...between you and Him. In our busy lives it's hard to remember that we need to work on that relationship, to keep in step with Him, to keep the conversation flowing with Him...to just spend time with Him.
I pray you start feeling that closeness to Him, the love and joy that comes along with it...and that when trouble or strife does arise, your first instinct is to go to Him (that's something we all struggle with). God bless ya, dear.
I think the fact that you are seeing that something is "missing" is good.
Sometimes we get caught up in the logistics, politics and traditions of religion and we loose sight of the fact that Jesus is not that, he's something more.
Whenever I'm caught up in those things and loose sight of who Jesus is I take some time off and try to familiarize myself with him again. I do love God and sometimes I can slip, but I do know that God loves me and he's just waiting for me to see that it's not religion, it's HIM that I should be learning more about.
Always be honest... with yourself and to God.
I think what you need to separate is "religion" from your beliefs. I grew up in church and so, rather than an actual relationship with Christ, all I had was religion (its practices, the traditions, etc). I thought by filling my life with religion, I would be a "good christian". So whatever I lacked in an actual relationship with Jesus, I filled up with religious practices (serving at church, leading small groups, etc). But only when I took a break, and sought Jesus... I began to know what this Christian life really means. Cause Jesus didn't come to this world to establish a religion. He came to save his people and give them eternal life.
I hope that you will learn to seek, not the religion of Christianity, but the person of Christianity, who is Jesus.
i know how you feel, as i feel the same way a lot of the time.
last year was my first year of college, and my mother made me promise to find a catholic group and go to at least two meetings (and i had the entire year to do so). i grudgingly agreed, as i really didn't want to go, even though i had no idea what it would be like. i found a group and i actually stayed with it. i went to pretty much every single meeting last year. they are an amazing group of people, and i think that being in that group really helped me to stay true to myself. i am still amazed by how close to God some of them seem.
i am working on it. i have started to read the bible more and pray as well. I hope that i can have half of what they seem to have. and, i'm going to be on leadership for that group next year, so hopefully i can help the incoming freshmen.
I have felt this way, too.
You don't have to feel guilty. God doesn't want you to feel guilty. He wants you to know you're loved, and He wants a closer relationship with you.
It helps me to think of God as the most wonderful father/friend/lover I could ever imagine. I know He's even better than that, but it gives me somewhere to start.
One way to connect with God more is to make an effort to pray throughout the day. It doesn't have to be long prayers, just a little "Hi, God," is a great reminder that He's with you. Also, it helps to read the Bible and focus on Scriptures that talk about God's closeness and His love for you. That helps me to love Him more and to be hungry for His love.
If you really want to be close to God, ask Him to help you. He will. I know from experience that feeling God's presence, His hug, His comfort, is the best thing that has ever happened to me. I am passionate about going deeper in Him because He is so attractive to me. That doesn't mean that I feel all excited to pray or worship every day. We all have moments that we don't "feel" Christian. But God hasn't changed, and He doesn't let go of us.
No one on here can know exactly where you're coming from or exactly what will get you where you need to go. But God does. If you ask Him, He will help. After all, He wants to be close to you even more than you want to be close to Him. If you have any emotional need, He wants to fill it. He will help you, and He will hold you on the journey if you ask Him.
For the longest time I was completely stuck. I believed, I prayed when i needed something and felt so inclined to do it, I went to church, yadda yadda yadda. Yet I never got any closer to God. Long story short, I realized I was only talking to him and doing those things because I knew I should. One day I was reading an article online and it was a person who had just gone through what I was going through. I realized what things I could change to help me.
I realized that prayer should be daily. It's not about just about asking God for something, it's about talking to him. Try praying everyday, just talking to Him. Tell Him what's going on in your life, even though He knows everything I think He likes it better if we just sit and tell Him, show Him what we've been thinking about and doing. Talk to Him about your friends and family and their struggles. Thank Him for how He's working in your life and ask Him to help you with what you need help with. Ask forgiveness for anything that you've done wrong. And keep praying about the same things till they are worked out.
Also, try reading your Bible at least once a day. I prefer to ask God to lead me to a verse that will help me, then open it randomly and read the page that's there. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Generally when I flip through it for long enough, I come to a verse that strikes a chord and I study it. I sit there and read it a couple of times, break it down and figure out what each part means. I've found it helpful lately.
You could try getting a book of daily devotions and doing one once a week, everyday, whenever you feel you need that extra boost. Many come with an index of what each devotion is geared towards (love, prayer, faith, family, etc) and you can pick and choose for whatever you've been struggling with.
Also I've found that having a friend that I can just sit and talk to about my struggles and doubts and everything has worked wonders. Whenever I find myself having problems I talk to her about them and we sort through them a bit. She knows me better than I know myself, so we can usually get it worked out. It's nice to have someone else who believes that I can go to and know that she's been through many of the things I have.
Well, I hope I've helped in some way, shape or form! Good luck and God bless!
Step One:
Realizing that faith and a relationship doesn't come from religious rituals. This isn't to say Church, etc. is bad, but they need to be put in their correct place. Just because you don't always want to wake up early on a day that you could otherwise sleep in doesn't mean you're a bad person. Church isn't God.
As the commenter above me said...talk about God with your friends, do devotions/read your Bible, lie awake at night thinking about Him...
A relationship with God is similar to a relationship with a friend, you have to spend time outside of school/work to really be close friends. Spending time with God in Church is cool, but that's only a very, very small part of the equation.
Hope that helps
Much Love,
-Your brother in Christ.
The mainstay of a close relationship with God is His word. The word of God is the vehicle through which He gives us His greatest gift - Himself. Even David, "a man after God's own heart," often felt like God was far away... he dealt with it by meditating on who God is and what He has done, which makes the Psalms a great place to go when you feel distant from God. Jesus told his disciples in John 14:15, "No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you." It is in the revelation of God that He makes us His friends, and so it would be natural that it is in His word that we find the intimate relationship with Him you desire. And remember, God promises that "you will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart." I will be praying for you. :)
Feelings of personal failure are one of our Enemy's biggest weapons. He is walking back and forth, accusing you of not being "good" enough or "spiritual" enough.
But God tells us that there is nothing we can do on our own. We are saved and sancified by HIS grace, not by anything we do or feel. The solution really is as simple as saying, "Lord I want to be closer to you." And he will bring you closer. He loves you and he wants a closer relationship with you. There is nothing you (or anyone) can do to remove yourself from His love, Romans 8:35-39.
Instead of beating yourself up for being "inadequate", Praise Him for being more than enough!
I think all of us have felt that way at one time or another. I would encourage you to read the great authors - J I Packer, A W Tozer, C S Lewis, Brother Lawrence, John MacArthur, and the Bible as part of your venture into intimacy with the Lover of Our Souls. As you read, ask Him all the questions that occur to you, expecting to hear the answer within a couple of weeks if not immediately.
"Practicing the Presence of God" is a collection of letters the 12th century monk, Brother Lawrence, wrote to friends and acquaintences. One of the main things I learned from him was that I could keep God with me at all times. I could stay in conversation with Him when I'm walking or driving somewhere, when I'm washing the dishes, when I'm programming computers at work (He helps me figure out how to design, write and debug programs!). Everything you wonder about wonder to Him.
Memorize one verse a week that sticks out to you when you read the Bible. Some will stay with you forever. But the main thing I enjoy about scripture memory is that it helps to start developing a scaffolding for what the book I'm in is all about - what the author is trying to say to us.
A relationship with God is like a relationship with any other person. It requires time, attention, and communication. Have at it and watch your life grow fuller as your relationship with our Father and Forgiver, our Rescuer/Redeemer gets closer and closer!
I would 100% recommend "The Practice of the Presence of God" by Brother Lawrence. It's amazing and helpful. It got me incredibly excited about coming close to God and staying there.
I getcha. At times I was a little uncomfortable admitting that I was Christian. But it's nothing to be ashamed of. I've learned that it doesn't matter what people think, and they have no right to think differently of you just because of your religion.
Being in high school, it's tough for me, since my teenage peers all judge by appearance and whether or not someone is "cool" enough. But I believe if you truly want a better relationship with God, he will give it to you. :o
Edit: I also pray when I'm thankful for something. I don't think you have that one on the list? Hehe.
There is no more important question!
relationship. I dump it on him and at times even blame him. I can be
controlling, closed off, cold and cruel to him. A relationship consists of give
and take. He gives and I take. I’ve cheated and lied; abused and used. I’ve
given willingly and prostituted my body, heart and soul for another. I have
insecurities that require reassurance and support. Like I said, I’m not
perfect. However, my Love is perfect. He is who He is (Exodus 3:14).
He is one without sin (Hebrews 4:15). Through it all, He has never left me nor
forsaken me (Hebrews 13:5). He knows His strength. He is strong enough of a Man
to see me fall, watch me waver from our relationship and welcome me back with
open arms. He is the same yesterday and today and forever (Hebrews 13:8). He is
a Man, my Man, Jesus Christ. Yet while I was still a sinner, Christ died for me (Romans
5:8). And as humbling and real as it may sound to name my flaws, they are only
my walls to my walls. They are excuses that keep me inside and block me from
being in a relationship with God. It is easy to make those excuses, settle for
who I am and keep my relationship with God from growing. It is easy to not want
to engage. Why do you think there is a porn industry? Or why people settle for
less than their potential? It is easy. To be in a real relationship requires both parties, to love
and be loved. It consists of ups and downs that can have misunderstanding,
miscommunication and disagreements. To have and be in a two way relationship
means there is effort, time and risk. That’s why real relationships aren’t
easy, not only between two people, but also between you and God. Relationships aren’t easy for me, specifically with men. I
don’t know my biological father. It took me years to recognize my stepfather as
a father. Although I love my ex-bfs now, past relationships with them have affected
me. Relationships scare me -- to be me, to love, and be loved. Therefore, it
isn’t easy to be in a relationship with God. Yet while I was still a sinner,
Christ died for me (Romans 5:8). It wasn’t easy for God as well. He took a
risk, made an effort, and put in time. Paid for my sins and bought me into His
Kingdom to engage in a relationship with Him, to love and be loved, whether perfect
or imperfect, scared or brave. What purpose does Jesus have in wanting us to be in
relationship with Him, to love and be loved? Jesus came to open eyes that are
blind, to free captives from prison and to release from the dungeon those who
sit in darkness (Isaiah 42:7). To break down my walls of walls, set me free and
allow me to be in relationship with God. What for? So that I may fulfill God’s
greatest commandments, to Love the Lord my God with all my heart and with all
my soul and with all my mind and with all my strength. Secondly, to Love my
neighbor as myself (Mark 12:30-31) – to be me, to love, and be loved. How? By choosing
to be in a relationship with Jesus Christ, whether easy or uneasy. Lastly, why
does God have a heart for us, those that have sinned against Him? Why does He
desire me– to be me, to love, and be loved? Because whoever does not love does
not know God, because God is love (1 John 4:8).
God is everywhere so its not hard to find him. This may sound silly but why not just say: "Lord I really need to be close to you. Teach me how."
God bless and take care.
Wow, I can totally relate. Every once in a while I get into this awesome zone where I feel super close with God, but other times I feel like I don't need Him or like I only pray for convenience. Whenever I'm having a "dark week" I like to go out in the world and take in all the beauty. I was having a pretty crummy week, but I went to the airport to pick up some relatives. There's probably no place else where you can experience as much joy and love as you can at an airport. Obviously you can't just..hang out in airports, but anywhere - the park, the mall, your backyard even. You can find beauty in every part of this world if you're really searching for it. I think this helps because it's just a reminder of how beautiful and full of love this world is, and how much God really loves us and how He shares the beauty of his creation with us. We really are blessed.
p.s. I think it's awesome of you to be so honest and post this. We all need help from time to time. God bless.
What a great thread! So many people trying to help another. I found a long time ago, that when I find that 'thing that God has created for me beforehand', I never get tired or burned out. There are lots of good things to do, but when you forget about yourself and are open to what God has for you, expect a miracle! It will happen!
Weirdly enough we were just talking about something similar to this in a house group this week. Many people become tired/lethargic throughout their normal working day that when it comes to attending meetings etc or even taking a quiet moment through the day to read the bible and pray etc we push it aside even though it should be on of the most important parts of our day and week.
But when you do make that effort, attend the meeting or make time in the day to work on your relationship with God we do feel better for it. You go to a meeting not really wanting to be there and by the end of it, you forget all about those feelings because someone said something which encouraged you or spoke to the particular situation your going through.
I think what your going through everyone goes through at some point or other. A few months back i found myself at a point where I was pretty much holding on by the tips of my fingers to my christian life. Sort of like coming to a crossroads and having to make the decision to do something or nothing. Doing nothing wouldn't change anything but keep me in the slump I was going through and heading nowhere, or doing something I could at least see where that path would take me.
So I started making an effort and it isn't as hard as people may think. I think perhaps we think something HUGE has to happen in order for our relationship with God to get going, but it's just simple things that make it work. I started making the effort to picking up my bible and reading everyday, within days I saw changes in my life that weren't there before. Simple things like the fact I was waking up happier, started to walk to work so I could listen to some worship music on my ipod before I got there (and found myself much less stressed within work). The bible is the food of our spiritual life, I eat and drink everyday in order for my physical life to survive, so I should be reading my bible everyday to feed that spiritual life within me.
My pastor told us once that we should prove God in our lives. We can be so determined that we aren't going to get anywhere so why even try? God is saying try, and prove me wrong that when you make an effort nothing changes. Because things do change, we just need to see past that barrier in front of our eyes saying 'don't bother because nothing will work'.
Dorfusdunkin, you remind me of a friend of mine who suggested I start reading Proverbs everyday. Only one chapter. If today is the 28th, then read chapter 28. I was spending too much time for others and not enough with MY relationship with MY God. It is a great way to start into the scripture again, if you have gotten away from it.
Thanks.
I understand your situation, I have believed in god for more than ten years. I experienced many frustration. I did not have close relationship with him when i was immature.
However, i realize that i have to completely trust him. i need to pray , read bible and share my feeling with him everyday. After reading the bible, i will write down my feeling on my notebook and pray to the lord. Then, you will find that your life is full of his love and care. Also, i ask the god to forgive me if i did something wrong. We have to obey his words as well. God bless you.
I know people who admit their lives aren't full of God, but they don't really seem to have a problem with it because it's convenient to think about God as a genie who exists to listen to you and maybe answer your prayers, but nothing more. =T so I think the first question is, do you want a deeper relationship? I've been afraid time and time again to make that commitment because i know that it means God will take me out of my oh-so-comfortable box. But if you do, then that's the first step from "knowing about" God to "knowing" God. (: